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I'm having a tough time learning logic games.

I started with 7Sage sequencing and moved to LSAT Demon around the time I got to grouping. JY's explanations are methodical and he seems to go rule by rule, although sometimes I find his methods hard to follow. LSAT Demon has a tendency to solve them by completing all worlds and combining rules logically/intuitively. Overall, the approaches are fairly different. I'm not even sure which methods make the most sense to me.

I understand logic games are known for being the most foreign yet most learnable, but I'm feeling a bit paralyzed. I almost feel more confused as time goes by. I really need to get a grip on these before the LSAT in June.

Does anyone here have suggestions or methods that worked for learning logic games?

Anyone have experience with both 7Sage and LSAT Demon logic games?

I would be especially grateful of advice from anyone who previously struggled with logic games and vastly improved.

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Right now, I've been studying full time since January, but I also studied all summer last year, and on-and-off during the fall semester. I've been dedicating 5-6 hours every day with one day off per week, but even so, I'm not seeing much change in my results. I know progress isn't always linear and everyone's experiences are different, but right now I'm starting to get discouraged because I feel like nothing I do is working, and the April administration will be my third exam. I'm aiming for at least a 170, but my last real test was a 164 and all my recent PTs have been in the low/mid-160s range. I know it's significantly harder to break into the 170s from the 160s than it is to get into the 160s from the 150s and so on, but it's so agonizing to be so close yet so far! How long did it take for you to get the results you wanted, and how did you get there without getting burned out?

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Not sure how I should feel, The WLs are from some of the better schools of the no's 2 were my safety options.

Still have two to wait on but not feeling great, should I apply to even more schools, really attack the waitlist schools with letters of interest?

My LSAT 161 GPA 3.43 already have an M.A degree as well. I am a bit of an older student and have a hearing disability so I don't know if that is looked at negatively or not.

Any advice would be great thanks.

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Should I be taking the test, doing BR same day, and then go from there to see what I need to improve on? Or is it better to do BR after a few days? Trying to study for the June test and don't really know the best approach. Any advice is appreciated!

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For conclusions that are along the lines of "this theory/explanation is wrong", I have a tough time keeping the entire idea in my head. For most questions, I will highlight just the conclusion. However, when I just highlight "this is wrong", I cannot reference the idea quickly enough. Are there any helpful tips to overcome this issue?

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PT76.S2.Q19 vs PT24.S3.Q12 (Flaw)

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PT 76 S2 Q19 AC (D) is not a flaw because the author does not presume that the argument it cites is the union leaders' only argument for their view while PT 25 S2 Q12 AC (E) is a flaw because a reason not mentioned in the stimulus is not considered.

Both of the arguments do not contain phrases such as "the only reason why..." and yet they seem to give me contradictory responses. How do we know when premises are the only reasons why the author comes to the conclusion in an argument where there is no mention of the reasons being the only reasons?

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[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]

I really need assistance in understanding this lesson: Basic Translation: Group 4

I am not clear on two things.

How do you understand that None is an indicator and not negation.

ex. /A->ADP instead of your choice of A->ADP ?

The rule states to pick either idea and translate. I am confused with step 3 and step 4.

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Reviving this excellent resource so we can add to it and keep it alive. Credit to @alyhobbs and the 3 years ago crew. Hope you all are killing it wherever you are.

Original thread: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/16979/help-with-flaw-type-examples

Will be adding to this but hey, don't make me do all the work... please post your examples up (especially for unaddressed categories) and I'll add them to the OP. It would be sweet if you copied the general format that follows too so I can just copy and paste. I'll credit you and you can be immortalized in the sage archives for all time.

Future 7sagers: please do continue to do this... copy what follows and make it your own. Please credit the original poster below and carry the flame.

@alyhobbs wrote:

Hey everyone, I am having a hard time with Flaw Questions. I know we are supposed to memorize the common argument flaws but that is where my struggle is. I am very much a visual/example type of learner. When going through the flaw types I realized it would really help me to understand and memorize them if I had examples. So I have been going through PTs and Drills that I have done trying to match them up with the flaw types and could use some help. Some I am able to easily match up to the type of flaw and others I am not. I have listed the different types below, some have specific question examples and then underneath I have a list of questions I need help matching. If anyone knows of any specific PT questions that match up with the other flaws please let me know so I can add them to my list. I hope this can also help others that struggle with flaws.

Flaw Types with Example Questions

1) Attacking the source of the argument

PT19S2Q14 *Thanks keets993

"rejects a claim by attacking the proponents of the claim rather than addressing the claim itself"

PT25S4Q04 *Thanks keets993

"assails legislation on the basis of the questionable character of supporters of the legislation"

PT39S4Q11 *Thanks keets993

"diverts attention from the content of the article by focusing on the writers' actions"

2) Uses terms unclearly/equivocation

PT25S04Q17

"The argument ambiguously uses the word "afford""

PT53S1Q12 *Thanks keets993

"ambiguity of risk"

PT59S2Q15 *canihazJD

"the meaning of a key term shifts illicitly during the course of the argument"

PT22S2Q24 *Thanks keets993

"draws a conclusion based on equivocal language"

3) Analogies that really aren’t analogous enough

  • PT24S3Q02 *Thanks keets993
  • "It relies on an analogy between two things that are insufficiently alike in the respects in which they would have to be alike for the conclusion to be supported"

    4) Appealing to authority in an area outside their expertise

    PTJ07S2Q17 @WickedLost @"Granger Danger"

    "The argument relies on the testimony of experts whose expertise is not shown to be sufficiently broad to support their general claim"

    PT20S4Q20 @"Granger Danger"

    Parallel flaw with classic appeal fallacy.

    5) Causation confusions

    PT47S3Q23

    “It takes for granted that if a correlation has been observed between two phenomena, they must be causally connected”

    PT30S2Q25 *Thanks keets993

    "because hormone levels are correlated with heart disease they influence heart disease"

    PT47S1Q23 *Thanks keets993

    "ignores the possibility that an increase in theta waves may not always be accompanied by a state of profound creativity"

    PT18S4Q9 *Thanks keets993

    "It mistakes a correlation between the type of brain damage described and Parkinson's disease for a causal relation between the two"

    PT39S4Q20 *Thanks keets993

    "overlooks the possibility that the same thing may causally contribute both to education and to good health"

    PT20S1Q10 *Thanks akistotle

    "ignores the possibility that drivers who drive recklessly have a preference for red cars"

    PT20S4Q14 *Thanks akistotle

    "It concludes that one thing was caused by another although the evidecnce given is consistent with the first thing's having caused the second"

    PT30S2Q25 *Thanks akistotle

    "Because hormone levels are correlated with heart disease they influence heart disease"

    PT31S2Q9 *Thanks akistotle

    "offers no evidence that the individuals queried would have responded differently had they been asked the same questions in years prior to the survey"

    PT64S1Q5 *Thanks akistotle

    "dogs' misbehavior is the cause of, rather than the result of, frequent discipline"

    PT65S1Q8 *Thanks akistotle

    "illicitly infers a cause from a correlation"

    PT66S4Q25 *Thanks akistotle

    "foods containing fiber also contain other substances that, when consumed, tend to prevent colon cancer"

    PT89S4Q15 *canihazJD

    “surmises from the fact that two phenomena are correlated that one causes the other”

    6) Circular Reasoning

    PT17S2Q2 *Thanks keets993 and akistotle

    "draws a conclusion that simply restates a claim given in support of that conclusion"

    PT17S3Q20 *Thanks keets993 and akistotle

    "assumes what it sets out to conclude"

    PT6S3Q8 *Thanks akistotle

    "It assumes what it seeks to establish"

    PT24S2Q8 *Thanks akistotle

    "presupposes the truth of the conclusion it is attempting to establish"

    PT49S2Q23 *Thanks akistotle

    "The purported evidence that it cites in support of its conclusion presumes that the conclusion is true"

    7) Confusing necessary and sufficient conditions

    PT63 S1 Q25

    “infers that something that is sufficient to provide a motive is necessary to provide a motive”

    PT22S2Q25 *Thanks keets993

    "confuses a sufficient condition with a required condition"

    PT17S2Q11 *Thanks keets993 and akistotle

    "It mistakenly interprets P to be claiming that a factor assures, rather than is necessary for, a legislator's effectiveness"

    PT17S3Q9 *Thanks keets993

    "does not establish that only a bird could have made the track"

    PT18S4Q3 *Thanks keets993

    "Grass seeds will not germinate well unless they are pressed firmly into the ground. The grass seeds sown in this yard were pressed firmly into the ground, so they will germinate well"

    PT22S4Q21 *Thanks akistotle

    "presupposing that if an action's having a certain property is necessary for its being a certain type of action, then having that property is sufficient for being that type of action"

    PT23S2Q19 *Thanks akistotle

    "taking the nonexistence of something as evidence that a necessary precondition for that thing also did not exist"

    PT23S3Q17 *Thanks akistotle

    "mistakes being sufficient to justify punishment for being required to justify it"

    PT24S2Q23 *Thanks akistotle

    "From the assertion that something is necessary to a moral order, the argument concludes that that thing is sufficient for an element of the moral order to be realized"

    PT30S4Q14 *Thanks akistotle

    "It mistakes something that is necessary for its conclusion to follow for something that ensures that the conclusion follows"

    PTJ07S3Q25 *Thanks akistotle

    "confuses a condition's being required for a given result to occur in one case with the condition's being sufficient for such a result to occur in a similar case"

    PT64S1Q24 *Thanks akistotle

    "confuses a claim that under certain conditions a certain action should be taken with a claim that the action need not be taken in the absence of those conditions"

    PT67S2Q09 *Thanks akistotle

    "treats a statement whose truth is required for the conclusion to be true as though it were a statement whose truth ensures that the conclusion is true"

    PT68S3Q21 *Thanks akistotle

    "takes for granted that the speech could not be inappropriate if it was not inflammatory"

    PT89S4Q20 *canihazJD

    "mistakes necessary conditions for sufficient condition"

    8) False dichotomy

    PT22S4Q09 *Thanks keets993

    "treats two things, neither one of which can plausibly be seen as excluding the other, as though they were mutually exclusive"

    PT38S1Q11 (Thanks to @"Slow is Fast" for finding it!) @"Burden.of.Floof"

    "fails to consider that some students may be neither fascinated by nor completely indifferent"

    PT39S4Q26 *Thanks keets993

    "Since there is a storm moving in, the outside temperature cannot rise this afternoon. Therefore, it must fall."

    PT59S3Q20 @cldennis94

    9) Confusing probability for certainty

  • PT54S4Q16 *Thanks keets993
  • "It takes for granted that the economic incentive to construct colonies on the Moon will grow sufficiently to cause such a costly project to be undertaken."

    10) Confusing "is" for "ought"

    PT60S3Q16 *thanks @"cole.davis10"

    "Takes for granted that preserving a currently endangered species in a habitat does not have higher priority than preserving species in that habitat that are not endangered"

    11) Percentages v. quantity

  • PT39S2Q5 (not a flaw question but RRE) *Thanks keets993
  • "Far more pedestrians cross at corners than jaywalk"

    12) Surveys and samplings to reach a general conclusion

    PT 63S1Q3

    “It relies on the opinions of a group unlikely to be representative of the group at issue in the conclusion”

    PT51S1Q4

    “fails to state the number of dermatologists surveyed, which leaves open the possibility that the sample of doctors is too small to be reliable”

    PT31S2Q03 *Thanks keets993

    "Those who are best able to provide answers to the question are patients, rather than physicians"

    PT39S4Q21 *Thanks keets993

    "that there may be few if any other plumbers working in Moore's town"

    13) Hasty generalization

    PT51S3Q6

    “draws a generalization that is broader than is warranted by the findings cited”

    PT30S2Q13 *Thanks samantha.ashley92

    "Treats a claim about what is currently the case as if it were a claim about what has been the case for an extended period"

    PT39S2Q2 *Thanks samantha.ashley92

    “draws a conclusion about all cases of a certain kind on the basis of evidence that justifies such a conclusion only about some cases of that kind”

    PT18S4Q25 *Thanks keets993

    "He attempts to refute a general claim by reference to nonconforming cases, although the claim is consistent with the occurrence of such cases"

    14) Experiments to reach a general conclusion

  • PT35S4Q08 *Thanks keets993
  • "playing the study's card game perfectly requires fairly low levels of perception and memory"

    15) Your argument fails therefore the opposite of your conclusion must be true

    PT47S1Q8

    “takes for granted that the fact that a claim has not been demonstrated to be false establishes that it is true”

    PT51S1Q15 *Thanks samantha.ashley92

    “the argument, in its attempt to refute one theory of species classification, presupposes the truth of an opposing theory

    16) Relative v. absolute

    PT 53S1Q22 *Thanks keets993

    "mistakes a merely relative property for one that is absolute"

    PT 85S3Q24

    "takes for granted that there are not significantly more households with a dog than ones with a cat"

    17) Confusing one possible solution for the only solution

    PT30S4Q6 *Thanks samantha.ashley92

    "Confuses being an adequate solution with being a required solution"

    PT59S2Q8 *canihazJD

    "fails to consider alternative explanations of the decline in sales of ice cream"

    18) Red herring

    PT26S2Q11

    "it appeals to the emotion of pity rather than addressing the issue raised"

    PT18S4Q11 *Thanks keets993

    "relies on an irrelevant reason for rejecting the civil libertarian's argument"

    PT18S2Q04 *Thanks keets993

    "He argues against a point that is not one that Marianna was making"

    19) Tradition fallacy and novelty fallacy

  • PT51S1Q10 *Thanks samantha.ashley92
  • “fails to show that a certain conclusion of the recent report is better justified than an opposing conclusion reached in older studies”

    20) Confusing part v. whole

    PT 47S3Q25 *Thanks keets993

    "To put together this year's two All-Star Teams, the best players in the league were selected. Half of them were put on Team One, and half were put on Team Two. Since each player on the two teams was one of the best players in the league this year, it follows that the two All-Star Teams are the two best teams this year."

    I also describe this is as 'falsey transfers attributes that can't be transferred' *Thanks keets993

    PT17S3Q19 *Thanks keets993

    "Of all the flowers grown in the university's botanical garden, the Oakland roses are the most beautiful. Since the university's botanical garden is the most beautiful . Since the university's botanical garden is the most beautiful garden in the region, the Oakland roses grown in the garden must be the most beautiful flowers grown in the entire region."

    PT17S3Q16 *Thanks keets993

    "assuming that because something is true each of the parts of a whole it is true of the whole itself"

    PT62S2Q7 *Thanks LCMama2017

    "This paragraph is long. So the sentences that comprise it are long."

    PT87S3Q7 *canihazJD

    "infers that a food will have a certain property simply because one of the foods ingredients has that property"

    21) Beliefs v. facts

    PT 80.S1.Q19 @cldennis94

    "opposing higher taxes is not a factor contributing to good leadership."

    Note: a Weaken question, but belief vs. facts is the flaw here in the argument.

    PT 28.S1.Q19 @cldennis94

    "infers that something is the case because it is believed to be the case."

    22) Relies on people's opinions as fact

    PT28S1Q09 *Thanks keets993

    "a claim is inferred to be false merely because a majority of people believe it to be false"

    Match the flaw

    PT47S1Q23

    “ignores the possibility that an increase in theta waves may not always be accompanied by a state of profound creativity”

    PT51S1Q6

    “It fails to take into account that what brings someone happiness at one moment may not bring that person happiness at another time”

    PT51S1Q18

    “overlooks the possibility that most people may have voted for small cities even though a large city received more votes than any other single city”

    PT51S3Q4

    “fails to consider that the total amount of money spent on education may be much greater than the total spent on sports”

    PT51S3Q9

    “fails to consider the possibility that the vehicle related fatality rates in other areas are also rising”

    PT67S2Q9

    "treats a statement whose truth is required for the conclusion to be true as though it were a statement whose truth ensures that the conclusion is true"

    PT67S2Q21

    "the argument fails to consider that bees might be present even in the absence of a particular condition that would ensure their presence"

    More added by @samantha.ashley92

    PT30S4Q8: "The argument presumes that no other evidence is relevant to the issue at hand"

    Relative v. absolute? I have no idea.

    PT30S4Q14: "It mistakes something that is necessary for its conclusion to follow for something that ensures that the conclusion follows"

    23) Unrepresentative sample

    PTM20S3Q18 *canihazJD

    "making a generalization on the basis of a sample that is likely to be unrepresentative"

    PT88S4Q19 *canihazJD

    "draws a conclusion on the basis of a biased sample"

    24) Sneaking something in (dont have a good name/category for this yet).

  • PT92S1Q25 (weaken)
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    Help with Flaw Type Examples

    Hey everyone, I am having a hard time with Flaw Questions. I know we are supposed to memorize the common argument flaws but that is where my struggle is. I am very much a visual/example type of learner. When going through the flaw types I realized it would really help me to understand and memorize them if I had examples. So I have been going through PTs and Drills that I have done trying to match them up with the flaw types and could use some help. Some I am able to easily match up to the type of flaw and others I am not. I have listed the different types below, some have specific question examples and then underneath I have a list of questions I need help matching. If anyone knows of any specific PT questions that match up with the other flaws please let me know so I can add them to my list. I hope this can also help others that struggle with flaws.

    Flaw Types with Example Questions

    1) Attacking the source of the argument

    PT19S2Q14 *Thanks keets993

    "rejects a claim by attacking the proponents of the claim rather than addressing the claim itself"

    PT25S4Q04 *Thanks keets993

    "assails legislation on the basis of the questionable character of supporters of the legislation"

    PT39S4Q11 *Thanks keets993

    "diverts attention from the content of the article by focusing on the writers' actions"

    2) Uses terms unclearly/equivocation

    PT25S04Q17

    "The argument ambiguously uses the word "afford""

    PT53S1Q12 *Thanks keets993

    "ambiguity of risk"

    PT22S2Q24 *Thanks keets993

    "draws a conclusion based on equivocal language"

    3) Analogies that really aren’t analogous enough

  • PT24S3Q02 *Thanks keets993
  • "It relies on an analogy between two things that are insufficiently alike in the respects in which they would have to be alike for the conclusion to be supported"

    4) Appealing to authority in an area outside their expertise

    5) Causation confusions

    PT47S3Q23

    “It takes for granted that if a correlation has been observed between two phenomena, they must be causally connected”

    PT30S2Q25 *Thanks keets993

    "because hormone levels are correlated with heart disease they influence heart disease"

    PT47S1Q23 *Thanks keets993

    "ignores the possibility that an increase in theta waves may not always be accompanied by a state of profound creativity"

    PT18S4Q9 *Thanks keets993

    "It mistakes a correlation between the type of brain damage described and Parkinson's disease for a causal relation between the two"

    PT39S4Q20 *Thanks keets993

    "overlooks the possibility that the same thing may causally contribute both to education and to good health"

    PT20S1Q10 *Thanks akistotle

    "ignores the possibility that drivers who drive recklessly have a preference for red cars"

    PT20S4Q14 *Thanks akistotle

    "It concludes that one thing was caused by another although the evidecnce given is consistent with the first thing's having caused the second"

    PT30S2Q25 *Thanks akistotle

    "Because hormone levels are correlated with heart disease they influence heart disease"

    PT31S2Q9 *Thanks akistotle

    "offers no evidence that the individuals queried would have responded differently had they been asked the same questions in years prior to the survey"

    PT64S1Q5 *Thanks akistotle

    "dogs' misbehavior is the cause of, rather than the result of, frequent discipline"

    PT65S1Q8 *Thanks akistotle

    "illicitly infers a cause from a correlation"

    PT66S4Q25 *Thanks akistotle

    "foods containing fiber also contain other substances that, when consumed, tend to prevent colon cancer"

    6) Circular Reasoning

    PT17S2Q2 *Thanks keets993 and akistotle

    "draws a conclusion that simply restates a claim given in support of that conclusion"

    PT17S3Q20 *Thanks keets993 and akistotle

    "assumes what it sets out to conclude"

    PT6S3Q8 *Thanks akistotle

    "It assumes what it seeks to establish"

    PT24S2Q8 *Thanks akistotle

    "presupposes the truth of the conclusion it is attempting to establish"

    PT49S2Q23 *Thanks akistotle

    "The purported evidence that it cites in support of its conclusion presumes that the conclusion is true"

    7) Confusing necessary and sufficient conditions

    PT63 S1 Q25

    “infers that something that is sufficient to provide a motive is necessary to provide a motive”

    PT22S2Q25 *Thanks keets993

    "confuses a sufficient condition with a required condition"

    PT17S2Q11 *Thanks keets993 and akistotle

    "It mistakenly interprets P to be claiming that a factor assures, rather than is necessary for, a legislator's effectiveness"

    PT17S3Q9 *Thanks keets993

    "does not establish that only a bird could have made the track"

    PT18S4Q3 *Thanks keets993

    "Grass seeds will not germinate well unless they are pressed firmly into the ground. The grass seeds sown in this yard were pressed firmly into the ground, so they will germinate well"

    PT22S4Q21 *Thanks akistotle

    "presupposing that if an action's having a certain property is necessary for its being a certain type of action, then having that property is sufficient for being that type of action"

    PT23S2Q19 *Thanks akistotle

    "taking the nonexistence of something as evidence that a necessary precondition for that thing also did not exist"

    PT23S3Q17 *Thanks akistotle

    "mistakes being sufficient to justify punishment for being required to justify it"

    PT24S2Q23 *Thanks akistotle

    "From the assertion that something is necessary to a moral order, the argument concludes that that thing is sufficient for an element of the moral order to be realized"

    PT30S4Q14 *Thanks akistotle

    "It mistakes something that is necessary for its conclusion to follow for something that ensures that the conclusion follows"

    PTJ07S3Q25 *Thanks akistotle

    "confuses a condition's being required for a given result to occur in one case with the condition's being sufficient for such a result to occur in a similar case"

    PT64S1Q24 *Thanks akistotle

    "confuses a claim that under certain conditions a certain action should be taken with a claim that the action need not be taken in the absence of those conditions"

    PT67S2Q09 *Thanks akistotle

    "treats a statement whose truth is required for the conclusion to be true as though it were a statement whose truth ensures that the conclusion is true"

    PT68S3Q21 *Thanks akistotle

    "takes for granted that the speech could not be inappropriate if it was not inflammatory"

    8) False dichotomy

    PT22S4Q09 *Thanks keets993

    "treats two things, neither one of which can plausibly be seen as excluding the other, as though they were mutually exclusive"

    PT39S4Q26 *Thanks keets993

    "Since there is a storm moving in, the outside temperature cannot rise this afternoon. Therefore, it must fall."

    9) Confusing probability for certainty

  • PT54S4Q16 *Thanks keets993
  • "It takes for granted that the economic incentive to construct colonies on the Moon will grow sufficiently to cause such a costly project to be undertaken."

    10) Confusing "is" for "ought"

    11) Percentages v. quantity

  • PT39S2Q5 (not a flaw question but RRE) *Thanks keets993
  • "Far more pedestrians cross at corners than jaywalk"

    12) Surveys and samplings to reach a general conclusion

    PT 63S1Q3

    “It relies on the opinions of a group unlikely to be representative of the group at issue in the conclusion”

    PT51S1Q4

    “fails to state the number of dermatologists surveyed, which leaves open the possibility that the sample of doctors is too small to be reliable”

    PT31S2Q03 *Thanks keets993

    "Those who are best able to provide answers to the question are patients, rather than physicians"

    PT39S4Q21 *Thanks keets993

    "that there may be few if any other plumbers working in Moore's town"

    13) Hasty generalization

    PT51S3Q6

    “draws a generalization that is broader than is warranted by the findings cited”

    PT30S2Q13 *Thanks samantha.ashley92

    "Treats a claim about what is currently the case as if it were a claim about what has been the case for an extended period"

    PT39S2Q2 *Thanks samantha.ashley92

    “draws a conclusion about all cases of a certain kind on the basis of evidence that justifies such a conclusion only about some cases of that kind”

    PT18S4Q25 *Thanks keets993

    "He attempts to refute a general claim by reference to nonconforming cases, although the claim is consistent with the occurrence of such cases"

    14) Experiments to reach a general conclusion

  • PT35S4Q08 *Thanks keets993
  • "playing the study's card game perfectly requires fairly low levels of perception and memory"

    15) Your argument fails therefore the opposite of your conclusion must be true

    PT47S1Q8

    “takes for granted that the fact that a claim has not been demonstrated to be false establishes that it is true”

    PT51S1Q15 *Thanks samantha.ashley92

    “the argument, in its attempt to refute one theory of species classification, presupposes the truth of an opposing theory”

    16) Relative v. absolute

    PT 53S1Q22 *Thanks keets993

    "mistakes a merely relative property for one that is absolute"

    PT 85S3Q24

    "takes for granted that there are not significantly more households with a dog than ones with a cat"

    17) Confusing one possible solution for the only solution

  • PT30S4Q6 *Thanks samantha.ashley92
  • "Confuses being an adequate solution with being a required solution"

    18) Red herring

    PT26S2Q11

    "it appeals to the emotion of pity rather than addressing the issue raised"

    PT18S4Q11 *Thanks keets993

    "relies on an irrelevant reason for rejecting the civil libertarian's argument"

    -PT18S2Q04 *Thanks keets993

    "He argues against a point that is not one that Marianna was making"

    19) Tradition fallacy and novelty fallacy

  • PT51S1Q10 *Thanks samantha.ashley92
  • “fails to show that a certain conclusion of the recent report is better justified than an opposing conclusion reached in older studies”

    20) Confusing part v. whole

  • PT 47S3Q25 *Thanks keets993
  • "To put together this year's two All-Star Teams, the best players in the league were selected. Half of them were put on Team One, and half were put on Team Two. Since each player on the two teams was one of the best players in the league this year, it follows that the two All-Star Teams are the two best teams this year."

    I also describe this is as 'falsey transfers attributes that can't be transferred' *Thanks keets993

    PT17S3Q19 *Thanks keets993

    "Of all the flowers grown in the university's botanical garden, the Oakland roses are the most beautiful. Since the university's botanical garden is the most beautiful . Since the university's botanical garden is the most beautiful garden in the region, the Oakland roses grown in the garden must be the most beautiful flowers grown in the entire region."

    PT17S3Q16 *Thanks keets993

    "assuming that because something is true each of the parts of a whole it is true of the whole itself"

    PT62S2Q7 *Thanks LCMama2017

    "This paragraph is long. So the sentences that comprise it are long."

    21) Beliefs v. facts

    22) Relies on people's opinions as fact

  • PT28S1Q09 *Thanks keets993
  • "a claim is inferred to be false merely because a majority of people believe it to be false"

    Match the flaw

    PT47S1Q23

    “ignores the possibility that an increase in theta waves may not always be accompanied by a state of profound creativity”

    PT51S1Q6

    “It fails to take into account that what brings someone happiness at one moment may not bring that person happiness at another time”

    PT51S1Q18

    “overlooks the possibility that most people may have voted for small cities even though a large city received more votes than any other single city”

    PT51S3Q4

    “fails to consider that the total amount of money spent on education may be much greater than the total spent on sports”

    PT51S3Q9

    “fails to consider the possibility that the vehicle related fatality rates in other areas are also rising”

    PT67S2Q9

    "treats a statement whose truth is required for the conclusion to be true as though it were a statement whose truth ensures that the conclusion is true"

    PT67S2Q21

    "the argument fails to consider that bees might be present even in the absence of a particular condition that would ensure their presence"

    More added by @samantha.ashley92

    PT30S4Q8: "The argument presumes that no other evidence is relevant to the issue at hand"

  • Relative v. absolute? I have no idea.
  • PT30S4Q14: "It mistakes something that is necessary for its conclusion to follow for something that ensures that the conclusion follows"

  • Eh. Idk.
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    So I have no counselor and I am starting to consider starting law school in Fall 2024, but I know I have to apply by Fall 2023. What are the recommended steps for applying? Obviously, I know you need letters of recommendation, LSAT scores, but I don't know anything else. Anyone got advice on where to start? I have an LSAC account but that's really it.

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    Hello! Hoping to get some ideas here because I have no idea what the correct etiquette is.

    I got waitlisted for a school that's one of my top choices but in the email it says offers can be as late as from May to even August. Obviously I can't just wait on them when the other schools I got into have acceptance deadlines in April. Can I accept an offer for a school and then pull out if my waitlisted school accepts me?

    Thanks in advance!

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    PT3.S2.Q18 - Ian Ragnall's article

    I got tricked. I did not pay enough attention to the words. I chose option answer E, but it says "most articles" whereas C has "Ragnall's" which is more specific.

    Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of the question"

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    Originally got this question wrong (picked E), but I think I understand why C is right - could someone confirm my thinking?

    Stim:

    P: Infant death rates have declined historically

    C: But that doesn't necessarily mean the babies currently born are actually healthier now.

    Hm, why is that? Is it that they are more likely to live but are still really weak when they're born?

    ACs:

    A - We're not focused on the rates for infant mortality. The stim already addresses some localities where the rates have increased.

    B - This explains why 51%+ of the infants who are already part of that mortality rate died, but doesn't explain why the infants who survived aren't necessarily healthier.

    C - Originally I eliminated this AC because I misunderstood the stimulus when it came to "infant mortality" and what actually meant to be part of that rate. But if the US is developing awesome tech that is able to keep babies alive, then that explains why babies are dying are lower rates - we're able to save them better, but nothing's really changed in their unhealthy state during birth.

    D - Again, not focused on infant mortality rates

    E - Originally picked this one because C just didn't click for me, so I tried to justify that E introduced some sort of alternative cause as to why they're not as healthy. But this has one huge issue: The stim is talking about babies at BIRTH and this AC is talking about babies who grow into toddlers, young kids, etc.

    #help

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    drilling

    Hello everyone,

    I planned to LR drill by grouping 5-6 question types. So I used 'particular tags' and assumed 7sage was only going to pull questions from PT1-45.

    I just started doing this today, and to my horror, I realized that they were giving me questions from PT60-74 as well.

    I know there is advanced builder function, but you can only select one question type, which isn't helpful to me at all.

    So my question is is there a way to ensure that questions are limited to PT1-45 and if not, why isn't this option added asap?

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    Good Afternoon,

    I'm trying to gather some information concerning the "weight" of a degree from a Service Academy. I graduated from the Coast Guard Academy (Similar to Westpoint) with a degree in Government (Political Science), with around a 2.7 GPA. My first two years were spent mainly in STEM and my previous major, Electrical Engineering. After making the switch to Government, my GPA rose drastically but not enough to significantly cover the damage of my days in Electrical Engineering. All of my grades in Law, Government, and Policy are in good standing. Is my low undergrad GPA going to sink my chances of ever getting into Law School?

    To offset my Undergraduate GPA, I enrolled in Graduate School at American Military University (Public Policy with a concentration in Law) in which I currently maintain a 3.9 GPA. (Disclaimer: This is an online school) I have also taken the LSAT and scored a 160.

    I will have 8 years of work experience as a Military Officer and work mainly in law-enforcement/policy.

    Just looking for advice or other avenues to increase my chances. Any guidance would be appreciated.

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    Free Tutoring Pt. 2

    Hi everyone,

    I posted earlier (around December) offering free tutoring and worked with a lot of people to help them improve. Honestly, I have some extra free time and I want to help others on the same journey as me, for free of course!

    For context, I took the Nov LSAT and got a 172. I actually retook in January to see how much I could improve and got a 175. I was also PTing 175+ before taking the test. I realize it is not perfect, but I would be open to helping out if anyone wants it.

    Just like my previous post, I am open to working with any of the three sections and we can focus on:

  • The entire section as a whole
  • Specific question types or games
  • Overall tips about a section or the test as a whole
  • Anything else about the test you need help with 😊
  • I want to give priority to those who are taking the April LSAT since that is right around the corner, but willing to help out anyone else as well.

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    Please PM me and we can discuss/schedule a time if there is anyone that is interested in the help. Otherwise, wishing everyone the best on their LSAT journey!

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    You're in luck! Join us for our next "Study Group Breakout" on Tuesday, April 4th from 9:00-10:30pm ET.

    Here's how it works:

    Register for the Breakout no later than Monday, April 3rd.

    Take PT55 Section 1 (based on 7Sage's numbering - should be an LR section) and Blind Review it, but DON'T look at the answers. I suggest you take it as a "Drill" rather than as a PrepTest! You can do this by going to the "Practice" tab and choosing "Drills," then selecting "Newer" PTs, selecting "Logical Reasoning," and scrolling to PT55 S1 (NOT S3, the other LR section for PT55). You will have to individually add each question to your drill, but hit "Create drill with 26 questions" at the bottom right when finished, and voila!

    Log in to the Breakout Session at the appointed time. We will automatically place you in a group of 3-5 students with similar scores so you can review the section together.

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