Should I take the LSAT just to take it. So I have a score. Even though I am not ready? Or postpone to March.

Did you just take a random PT without knowing anything about what the LSAT even is, and is that considered your diagnostic score?

I actually started the LSAT journey in March 2021. I didn’t have a curriculum, I was just taking random PTs here and there, check answers, and study off of the answer explanations. I to this day never took a timed test, and all my untimed tests were always in the 160s. Then I took a half year long break. If I take a timed test now, would that be my diagnostic?

I am a non-native speaker. But I did it. I have done all the PT 50-92 3 times in the past 9 months! Drilled all the Questions from PT 1-45.

Hi all,

For those of you who have completed the LSAT writing portion, do you mind sharing with me your experience with the LSAT writing interface?

Thank you for your help!

So unbelievably happy! I started my journey in April 2021 with a 141 diagnostic, it was so discouraging to have people tell me there's no way I can get my goal score of 165+ because the jump is too large. WELL, I can finally say I proved them wrong but I always believed in myself--I think it's easy to compare yourself with others while studying for this exam but mindset is everything. Push yourself, study hard but also take time for self care. I struggle with GAD and ADHD and it has been no easy task but with the proper schedule to balance your time efficiently and positive affirmations, you can reach your goal!

Huge shoutout to 7Sage as well, I was at a plateau at 160 since September until I decided to start using the problem sets and video explanations to focus on my weaknesses!

If anyone has any questions, my messages are open :)

Hello Everyone, I am scheduled to take the June Lsat and I hope to get a score of 175. Any advice on getting to my goal?? I have purchased the LSAT Trainer and the LSAT Practice Tests.

It took a year of hard work and I gained a lot of tips and tricks. Would anybody buy an ebook for $5 of the tips and tricks I learned?

I know this is ridiculous because I've often been the person here who has given advice with regards to such type of questions, but now erroneously I am in the position to ask for it. I would still appreciate your help.

I've been averaging at around 174 among all PT's I've taken, and during the last 5 or so PTs I was able to hit a 180 and a 176. I had the suspicion that there might be an inflation because I had seen the vast majority of the PT's I've done before, however it was 1-1.5 years ago (I basically did non-serious on- and off- studying from late 2019 to May 2020, fully stopped and re-started in May 2021) and I honestly did not consciously remember any (!) of the questions - that feeling got corroborated when I simulated PT91 (100% fresh) on LawHub and scored a 173, which was within the range of my other scores (and honestly, it did not feel different from all other PTs I had taken).

I took the January International LSAT, and it did not feel significantly different from any other PT I've done (I was able to control the increased level of nervousness due to knowing that this is the real LSAT). However, I received my score yesterday which was a 168, and spent the whole day crying and vomiting (I wish I were kidding...). I never scored a 168 since re-starting prep in May (I can send you my personal PT excel file if you do not believe me)...

Before getting my mind clear, registering for June LSAT and using the weekend to think about an action plan, I would like to ask whether it makes sense now to apply to the Law Schools I planned to (these are Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, University of Chicago - no other schools, for personal reasons).

Things considering rn:

I often read here and on reddit that your chances are zero if LSAT is below last year's medians, however e.g. Harvard's 25th percentile score was 170, means that 25% of those admitted scored 170 or lower. Means to me that there is a realistic chance that there were at least some people with my score who got admitted.

It's February, admittedly very late, not sure how much of an impact that has (some say marginal, some say chances are 0).

Everything is set up for application, I paid here $600 for editing my Personal statement + diversity statement, for both I got verified by the editors that they are ready for submission now.

I can apply up to 3 times to each law school, however the thought of the miracle happening and thus not having to deal with LSAT anymore (i.e. getting accepted to one of those schools despite my weak LSAT score) is enticing.

No URM, however stellar CV and background interesting enough to write a diversity statement.

Bonus question:

After the 10 min break of the LSAT exam, I got another proctor. For some reason, the proctoring system kept calling my screen, there was no button where I could pick up and the new proctor was apparently so unfamiliar with the system that she could not make it stop - and instead of being able to calm down before the 2nd half of the exam, I was forced to listen to this annoying sound.

Furthermore, during the last 2-3 min of my LG section, it showed me that there was a connection issue for 5 sec or so, and suddenly it automatically switched to another window. I spent 30-60 sec yelling at the proctors to either stop the time or bring me back to the exam, when I suddenly realized that the exam window was still open and I was able to switch back to the exam simply with my mouse - I know that I could have realized it earlier/immediately, but, I mean, I was taking a very important exam at that moment...

At the end, I was luckily able to finish the LG questions, however: are these sufficient reasons to make this exam not count towards any limit (e.g. one can take the exam 3x in a testing year, 5x in 5 years and 7x over a lifetime, or sth like that) without being cancelled? This was the 4th time I took the LSAT, one of them though does not count because it was a Flex in summer 2020 (two of the scores are cancelled btw.).

Thanks.

Greetings!

I am looking for motivated and hard working people to work with.

Please let me know !

we got this !

I'm having trouble justifying why only C is correct in this MC question.

My understanding is that Anita's conclusion is that the journalistic guidance Marcus cites is inadequate. So wouldn't both A and B also be satisfactory answers here? Both say that the guidance Marcus cites is bad, either by saying the guidance is not clear in all ethical dilemmas (A) or that the guidance is not correct in all ethical dilemmas (B). Both clear and correct are used in the guidance cited by Marcus.

Is my mistake misunderstanding how the word inadequate is used here? So, Anita saying the guidance is inadequate does not mean Anita thinks it is not correct in all dilemmas or not clear in all dilemmas? But to me, both situationally incorrect and situationally unclear mean the guidance is inadequate!

Sorry if this confusing. I'm confused. To be clear, I understand why C is correct.

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I am a splitter with 3ish GPA and 172. After seeing people bashed by this vicious cycle, I decided to retake my LSAT in August. Looking for 1-3 study buddies shooting for 175+

Hey guys please dm me!! I have an official score looking for serious study buddies!! I also offer free tutoring, dm if needed

I just got accepted yesterday!!! Thanks 7Sage

Which PTs do people drill from? and where do people start taking fresh PTs from? I have heard differing opinions so interested to hear what people think is the best?

Hello, all! I'm looking to form a study group for the June test, which will be my first time taking it. I haven't made much progress at all on completing the course on 7Sage. I'm thinking of spending 15-20 hours per week on studying. Comment if being a part of this group would be of any interest to you. Thanks!

Is there no LSAT being offered in July 2022? Isn't there usually?

Is there a difference in meaning between the following two statements?

Superficially, they seem to mean the same. But if I were to diagram them out, they do seem to differ in meaning.

Iam the new test taker my plan is to attempt the June LSAT...anyone interested to study with me can message....i have a flexible schedule and i studyy for about 3 4 hours a day. Need some Focus and concentration for cracking the exam...My goal is to get 172+

Hello all,

So today was score release day and I'm devastated. I was really hoping to make it before this application cycle was over, but my score today was in the minimum score range of all of my perspective schools. I don't know what to do- every single PT exam I take I score within the 160-170 range, and then every time I take the real exam I score in the 150s. I am so utterly frustrated! I don't know how to close this gap, and extreme test anxiety doesn't help. I think I am going to have to go at this for another year and try again next app cycle. Does anyone have any advice for how to help my actual score reflect PT scores?

Hey everyone,

After receiving my goal score on the January administration, it is time to hang up my LSAT cleats. With that comes a bittersweet departure from the 7sage community. Before doing so I want to check on a small administrative detail. Will my data be deleted when I close down my account? Only curious on the off chance I were to reopen the account. Best of luck to everyone going forward.

Hey y'all-- hope everyone is having a good Wednesday!

I just wanted to make a quick announcement about this week's LSAT Tips newsletter, which you can read here: https://7sage.substack.com/p/lsat-tips-to-retake-or-not

In this week's edition, I write about whether or not retaking the LSAT is a good option.

I hope it's helpful!

Hello,

I just got a 165 in jan 2022 lsat, and I want to improve from 165 -> 170 by August.

I'm an international student whose primary language is not English, so I seem to struggle a lot in RC (typically from -8 to -4).

I'm looking for a RC tutor who can help me improve my RC skills!

I love your content and it has been very helpful. However, you need a de-esser really bad. It will clean up your audio and get rid of the harsh "ess" noises. It really hurts my ears. R.i.p. headphone users. Does this bother anyone else?

I just got my January 2022 LSAT score of a 166. This was a retake, and I first took the LSAT in October 2020 and got a 165. My goal was a 168-170. I am disappointed but whatever. I really really don’t want to take this again while working full time. I’m thinking of applying this September for the next cycle or throwing in a few applications right now for this cycle. I have a 3.9 GPA, graduated from a top-4 public college, and have a rare physical disability which is what my personal statement is about FWIW.

I applied last cycle with my 165 and didn’t get in anywhere except GWU (but no scholarship). I did get waitlisted at Penn and Michigan fwiw. I am determined to going to law school and would like to get a good amount of scholarship money if I can. It’s just a matter of when. I’m looking at the lower t-14 to t-20s-30. I’m casting a wide net for schools.

Should I even throw in a few applications for this cycle right now or just wait entirely until September? I am very conflicted. Thanks.

Having a bit of trouble understanding why A is correct (I originally chose C). Could someone clarify? Thank you!

Stim:

Ctx: Foundation didn't want their $ to be used for weapons research so uni said none of their $ would be used for the research

P: None of foundation's $ would benefit weapons research

C: Foundation rescinded threat

ACs:

C - I didn't love this AC, but chose it because none of the others initially seemed correct to me. Descriptively, it is accurate in that the foundation overlooked this possibility that the uni was lying, but I mean it's a short argument, I'm sure they could've overlooked several things.

I wonder if this C almost attacks the premise in a way - Like, okay sure what if the uni was lying? Then the foundation's grant money would DIRECTLY benefit weapons research. Is this the right way of thinking about it?

A - I googled around and saw some explanations for why A was correct, but my struggle is that the crux of why this AC is correct is that it hinges on the nuance of direct vs indirect benefit. I didn't even think about indirect benefit until reading explanations for this AC, but wondering if that's a common theme of "direct" vs "indirect" when it comes to certain flaw questions?

#help

I'm discouraged because of my January score. I was extremely sick at the time (with Covid) and my score is much lower than I was making on my practice tests. I'm already signed up to retake for the February exam, which is in 10 days, because I want to apply to law school before the March 15th priority deadline. But now I'm doubting myself and rethinking everything and thinking maybe I should wait and retest in the Fall and apply for the next cycle. I just really wanted to go to law school this Fall...