Hi, I have a question:

Premise: A -m-> B --> C

Invalid Conclusion: A --> C

Is A --> C necessarily false? Or is it just not necessarily true? Or do we simply not know?

Just curious, is it common and/or advised to write an addendum for both a low LSAT and low GPA? Or should you really just pick one?

I am taking the August LSAT and was hoping to get some tips for last minute improvement on LGs, my worst section by far. I know this is something that should have been shored months ago but I can only look forward. Yesterday I took PT 83 and did very well besides LG, where I got ¡-15! Suffice to say, I had a bit a major freakout yesterday but now I am ready to get to work.

My current range on PT's is 161 to 166, I really hoped to be in the high 160's - low 170's but my biggest obstacle are the games. My avg's are (LR -4, RC -5.5, LG -8.2). Unfortunately my scores are a bit skewed because the LR no longer counts as 2/4 of the LSAT grade.

My current plan is to take one more PT at some point this week but for the rest of the week just drill logic games. I know it is the easiest section to improve, and I hope to get it close to -2 by the October test, but for now what would your suggestions be for quick improvement. Should I take the same tests over and over again until I get the assumptions down perfectly? Or take a wide range of LG sets so that while question types are similar, the actual details are different and I need to improvise my assumptions? Are there any specific LG types that might be the easiest to perfect and maybe I should focus on those?

Any, and I mean any, suggestions are appreciated as I try to bump my score up.

Dear all,

How are we doing? I was just wondering what kind of career options is desirable for those who need to pay back law school tuition loan post-graduation. I am planning to go to T-14 law schools, preferably T-3. If I do not get into T-3, I intend to go to a T-14 law school that offers the most generous scholarship. Obviously, I will need to do well on the LSAT. However, I am just curious of whether how you all are planning on paying back the loan. My anticipation is that if we attend one of T-3 law schools, which do not offer any scholarship, we are allotted 200,000+ USD as a loan. Is it safe to say that we try to get a big law job? Or, do we just go for a job that suits the best of one another's interest (which is teaching for me)? My parents only funded for my education up until college years, and I have 50,000 USD as a debt to pay back to my parents for my master’s degree tuition. In other words, I would need to repay about 250,000 USD as a loan for my acquisition of graduate education (JD, MA). I am unsure of which career route I should research into to make my education business fruitful while efficient. Could you please share your insight with this?

Best,

Ken

Omg I can't believe after 5 months of studying I'm taking the LSAT in a couple days. Newer LR questions are making me very nervous and I don't know what else I can do in the following days to improve my score just a bit.

Any one else feeling this way?

Can be remote! Currently PT'ing around low-mid 160s. Would be down to study either in person or do this remotely!

Hey all. Getting ready to head off to Cornell on Monday, and while I expect to be checking back in from time to time, I'm sure I'll be much less present from here on out. I don't have a "here's all the stuff I learned" post for you, as that's just not me, but to leave you all with one thing: this test is absolutely conquerable... yes, even for you. Just don't give up.

Final office hours... open discussion and August test run-up - 8/8/21 @12pm EST - TBD. Apologies in advance if I'm a bit haggard... I'll be waking up pretty early to be able to do this and hopefully jump start my transition from Hawaii time to EST.

Google meeting link: https://meet.google.com/njn-rgvd-ouo - timed out... use link below.

2nd link: https://meet.google.com/hyd-swsh-zek

Edit: Thanks everyone!

I'm just curious if anyone feels the same way. Every time I take the LSAT, it feels like a massive race against time and there really isn't a moment where I feel relaxed. It's go-time from beginning to end.

By the end of a section, I just keep thinking "What the heck just happened..." It's like I'm grasping for air by the time I'm done because it's just pure adrenaline from beginning to end.

I wonder if this is normal or if top scorers are just chilling...lol

I seem to remember JY saying in one of his videos that passages with 2 parts in RC (usually labeled part A and B ) are no longer common on the LSAT. Am I remembering this correctly?

Hello,

so I've been studying for the lsat since January and am currently scoring 163 on average. Since I'm working full time and have been out of college for +5 years, progress has been slow.

At this point, I'm wondering if there is any realistic chance for me to improve my score to 170 by October. In each section, I'm getting :

LG -3~5 / LG -4~5 / RC -6~7

Hello fellow 7sagers, first time test taker here. I am taking the August 2021 LSAT and was wondering what protocols previous and fellow first-time test takers are following during the last >week of prep before the test regarding the taking of full, timed PTs. I believe this thread might be helpful to others in my position as well, considering this August test is a little unprecedented with the introduction of the new-ish format.

For some context, I have 2 "fresh" PTs left, (89 and M20), and was planning on taking 89 sometime within the next few days, and then spending the remaining time chopping up M20 for timed sections/practice and light drilling before my big day on Saturday.

Additionally, I started my prep this summer with a 150 diagnostic, and am currently averaging around 167 (deriving this average from my most recent PT's which have been in the 80's and 70's). I scored a 169 on PT 71 last Wednesday, but then experienced significant (although not debilitating) burnout, so I took the next two days off. With this in mind, I'm wondering if I should even bother PT'ing again before Saturday, or just drill/do timed sections for the remaining week. Throughout this entire prep I have never spent a full week without doing at least one PT. I would like to sit down and do another full run-through on LawHub with a fresh 89 under test conditions, but at the same time I would like to avoid more burnout (which may or may not even happen).

Thanks for any advice.

I am a non-traditional applicant in more ways than one. I graduated from undergrad 20 years ago (2.52 gpa) and got into a law school with a 154 score. Unfortunately, I lost a family member during my L1 year and just had no clue how to manage. I passed my classes but at the end of that year I didn’t make the attrition cutoff and was academically disqualified. Given the state I was already in, I took this failure pretty hard and thought that was the end of my dream.

I eventually returned to grad school and just this year completed my Masters with a 3.77 and want nothing more than to go to law school, but I have so many questions! Am I even permitted to apply? Or do I need to have the law school I attended agree to remove themselves from my LSAC records. Who should I be going to for help with my application? I find it really hard to believe that law schools would punish someone 20 years later for not being able to cope with L1 and bereavement, but I don’t know.

If anyone has any information on where I can get help and answers, I’d really appreciate it. If 7Sage admissions counseling is able to help with this, I’d gladly sign up. #help #admissionscounseling

Thanks

The title says it all.

So this may have been said before and I know that there is no way to really change this but does anyone else feel like sometimes the explanations are like too cursory? Like the instructors will say something like "This answer is just ridiculous", or "That just doesn't make any sense" even when there's clearly a lot of test takers who chose that wrong answer? It seems like the powerscore and certain GMATclub forums are way more in depth about trap answers and certain things. Just want to see if it's only me.

For LR and RC (especially with LR) when I go back and forth between two answer choices I always end up picking the wrong one. In my BR I can come up with all the reasons for picking the wrong one and not the other (right) answer choice. Can someone please share what they do when they are going back and forth between the right answer choice and the second best answer choice? I have tried going back to the stimulus, doing grammar analysis, locating referential phrases, identifying the gap between the premise and the conclusion, analyzing why I didn't pick the right answer choice. But I still end up picking the wrong one timed (and also sometimes during BR). Any suggestion would be really helpful!!

I would totally be willing to buy any merch from 7sage. Especially if its like a t-shirt that says who cares? or something :D

I’ve really been making strides the past two weeks. I’ve gotten my BR score from a month ago on a timed LSAT. How can I jump into the 170’s? Is it purely taking PT’s? Or am I at a point I need to take a more niche course? I think I have LG and mostly RC locked down, and have a couple of questions in each LR that scramble my brain like Sunday morning breakfast. Advice and/or jokes are highly appreciated.

I was making major progress on all of my sections, but RC seems to have taken a turn for the worst. The decline started at the same time I began taking my PTs on Lawhub in preparation for the exam. I am drilling 4-passage sections and doing really well, but it’s not transferring to my PTs. The most concerning thing is I didn’t feel like I did badly on my PTs… Any tips, advice, prior experience with this phenomenon? Thank you in advance!

Hey guys,

The upcoming August LSAT is my first LSAT ever and while I'm almost mentally broke from the stress, I've been thinking about how the test will be administered online. So my understanding is that we sit in our own rooms (unless you have accommodation) and a proctor will identify your ID (which I assume we just hold up to the webcam?) then we have to show them a sweep of the room and table which is where I'm a little lost.

I'll be using a standard laptop camera which is incorporated on top of the screen, so do I just carry the laptop in awkward angles and do a little twirl? I feel like this is a little weird and time-consuming if everyone has to do it at the same time.

Also by proctor, does that mean everyone is assigned a human to check ID, table, room etc., or is this an automated message that just plays before the exam?

I'm so sorry if these are newbie questions that are already answered somewhere else online -- I couldn't find them on the LSAC website.

Any insight would help so much! Thank you in advance!

I was thinking of starting doing them as soon as I start the core curriculum on 7sage. However, I heard that it's usually recommended to alter the type of drills you're doing. For example, combining RC with LR, etc. Since the 7sage core curriculum is organized by the three sections, doing drills in parallel would mean separating the RC drills from LR and LG.

I'm interested to hear your thoughts on best strategy :)

I am aiming to take the October LSAT and apply this upcoming cycle. I did not think too much about designing a law school list before because I wanted to focus on LSAT. But now I am a little nervous as the new application cycle is about to begin. Will it be too late to start preparing application materials besides recommendation letters after taking the October LSAT? How helpful could admission consulting be before having this October LSAT score on file?

Thanks!

Hi everyone! I hope everyone’s doing well and working hard towards their LSAT goal. :)

I’m looking for any study buddies or a group of people to help hold accountability. I’ve been trying to study for the LSAT for almost a year now, and I’m not making much headway. I’m really looking to bring my score up to the high 160s (the higher the better, truthfully), and I could use some help going over the material with someone. I work full time on the East coast though, so we’d likely have to meet virtually later in the evening. Please let me know if you’re interested, and I’ll message you privately! Thank you!!

I just took my first practice test on Lawhub since the actual test is only a little over a week away. I got a score lower than I've been getting and ran out of time on some sections which hasn't happened to me in a while. I'm hoping this is just because this was a new interface. Has anyone else had lower scores when adjusting from 7sage to lawhub?

I have been doing a combination of drills recently cover from accuracy to timing. For instance, one day I would do a group of medium level passages, timed and a timed LR section. The next day I would do some drills focus on techniques and accuracy. My drilling results is somewhat OK(-3/4 in LR and -4/5 in RC, and -2 in LG). But when I took PT yesterday my PT results was so much lower than my expedition(-6 in LR, -8in RC and -7 in LG). I feel my work throughout the week is not reflected. Any suggestions about what I should do?

Thanks!

So I got this question wrong under timed conditions (chose D), but then in blind review had an inkling that answer choice (E) was correct, even though I still couldn't completely rule out (D). Here was my blind review explanation:

(D) If the number of cops had increased, this at least seems like it would mitigate the reasoning used by the city official, because there were sufficient number of cops to deal with the population increases (according to experts). So what the citizen said was more substantiated, by this logic. I think so at least?

(E) So this is suggesting that the healthcare has improved a bunch, and the murder rate would have gone up even more drastically than the small pop increases, taking away the assumption that city official had made that the murder rate increased incrementally/steadily with population. I think this is the strongest counter to the city officials argument because it exposes the assumption/argument more, but I don't know why (D) is incorrect either, entirely.

Maybe (D) because more cops are not necessarily more equipped to deter violent crime, and what the city official says still stands, that the increase in pop is still a more relevant factor that the citizen is not considering. Maybe they weren't doing anything to deter violent crime before, and they are still not, and therefore what the citizen is saying is still incorrect, and what the city official is saying is still reasonable?

Please help me resolve/reconcile/explain why (D) is wrong and (E) is right, the right way!

Thanks! :)