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I took the LSAT in 2018 and scored a 167. I plan to take a diagnostic test tomorrow to see where I stand now. If I score 160+ in my diagnostic test, would 2.5 months be enough time to study to take LSAT in August and complete the 7sage curriculum? According to the study schedule generator, I would have to study 20-25 hours per week starting today to ensure I take at least 6 PTs by the August 2022 LSAT.

Thank you!

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I was trying to make a problem set on here using questions I got wrong on various preptests in Lawhub, but when I went to add PT 62, S2, Q18 (which in Lawhub is a SA question re: planets/solar system) it pulled up a completely different question (MBF question re: computer programming). is there a reason and/or a solution? thank youuu

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Hey there,

First off all, how's your day going? I find that we all are so rushed to be hyper-productive we have a tendency to forget to check in with each other. So please do comment below or reach out if you want to have a casual conversation.

I'm writing this with an aimed target audience: Those that are carrying 100 responsibilities on their shoulders without the world really knowing. I'm sure a lot of you are lurking in the background, and that is perfectly fine. I might be wrong (hopefully) but I would guess that a big chunk of LSAT test takers are people with big dreams that come with big responsibilities and draining commitments. We commit to a lot of long hours of prep, heavy study schedules, and coffee. Don't get me wrong, I thrive on coffee and stress. Achieving what I set out for myself is what fuels me everyday and makes me happy but it isn't the easiest.

It is even harder when you have 'life things' lurking in the background. With a full-time job, I struggle with major anxiety everyday. I question if I am putting enough time into my law school dream, if I am studying enough for the LSAT. Study sessions slowly get harder and harder. It's not the easiest getting home after 9+ hours of work and spending another 3 studying. But, I promise myself it will be worth it.

I write this with one goal: To remind you (those who got this far into reading my overly lengthy post) that you are not alone. Somedays, you will see tremendous improvement in your prep and will get very happy. Other days, you will have a bad PT day, you might not be as happy but you must remind yourself that you are achieving and progressing nevertheless. Even with a bad PT score, you have the chance to see how the test tricked you and learn from it. At the end of the day, remember that the LSAT is just a game: You are just trying to find ways to trick it, as much as it is trying to trick you. You want to study the LSAT to a point where you stop falling in all the potholes the test takers hide within the test.

Regardless of all that, you just prepping for the test is an achievement of its own. It's not easy to commit to studying, and you are finding ways to do it. Prepping for the LSAT is no easy task, and can make you feel lonely and overly stressed, so please reach out to anyone whenever needed. Myself included. We are all here to see each other achieve, and screw over the LSAT as hard as it is screwing us over some days.

You have a great day, and congrats for making it this far.

F:)

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When I watch JY Ping's solution videos on LG section, I am able to memorize the game boards and be able to solve the questions in given time (foolproof method). However, when I take a PT timed, I get about only 7 questions correct in the entire LG section. I usually draw a game board/game boards that are missing a few key components or simply just get stuck being unable to draw a game board for that question set. Should I try to solve LG section on my own without watching JY Ping's video and only watch it when I cannot progress further with my current knowledge of solving an LG problem set?

I am only on PT8 right now but I don't want to just keep going through the PTs without being able to solve the LG section on my own. I would like to be able to draw my own game board/game boards without having to watch JY Ping's LG videos every time. Could anyone please share your insight?

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Hello!

I was wondering if anyone has any tips and getting to -0 for timed PTs for LGs?

When I blind review, I correct it to -0 but then under timed PTs I still get -3, to even -6 under timed conditions.

It seems I get overwhelmed when a game has a lot of variables? For example, PT 68 game 4, I missed three questions, two cbt (felt overwhelmed under timed PT by rule that consecutive can't be the same topic, and brute forcing answer choices).

Other PTs I noticed my mistakes are I didn't read the questions stem properly under timed, or through a mbt question chose an answer that could be true. So tips for that pressure of timed PTs would be appreciative lol

I've foolproof before but haven't done so in a month, should I just get back it?

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So, the last few months have been difficult for me, and made studying for the June LSAT near impossible. My job schedule has gotten worse, and the workloads have become more stressful and strenuous, and by the time I get home I'm physically exhausted and mentally drained. And that's been every single day since February, (on top of having Covid and then dealing with Long covid for almost 3 months).

With that said,

I didn't have enough time to prepare for the LSAT. I read through several chapters of some books that I was using to study, and have taken a few practice exams but I'm sure that I won't do well.

Is there anything that I can do in the next 11 or 10 days that could maybe help me do better? I do plan on leaving my job this month, so after that I'll begin preparation for re-taking the exam at sometime at the end of the year or in January.

This whole experience has been super stressful and I have major regrets.

Also, in the event that I don't like my score, what should I do? IS there a way to revoke the score so that it won't count towards the 7 time test taking limit?

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I officially got rejected from my top 2 choice schools (UBC and McGill) and am feeling so embarrassed and awful. I did get accepted to one school - UVIC. I’m wondering whether I should just go to UVIC or wait and reapply to UBC and McGill next year. I wanted to go to McGill specifically because of their option to do a concentration in Human Rights and International Law. I’m not seeing anything equivalent at UVIC.

I had a 170 LSAT and a 3.6 GPA on a 4.3 scale (I know, not very good). I honestly am at a loss of what I could do to improve. I don’t know if I could score higher on the LSAT. I asked for feedback from UBC and they said they didn’t have anything that could help me, and if I reapply I should do a similar personal statement.

Can anyone offer me some advice?

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It was a huge surprise to me the amount of kindness, supportiveness, and congrats I got from my last post (https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/32155/thank-you-7sage-and-free-tutor-sessions) on 7Sage. Thank you all so much for being such a fantastic community. Many people asked me what they should do to prepare for the June LSAT. It is close to the test day, so I put together five last-minute tips for all the June LSAT takers. I tried these things, and they worked to increase my score. I hope they can help others on 7Sage.

1. Rest and sleep well – I can't emphasize this enough, especially when approaching the test date. I personally learned it the hard way. Based on my observations, a fresh mind can instantly increase your score by 5 points. People read faster and retain more information with a fresh mind than with exhausted or drained brains. The tips for this are 1. don't drink caffeine after noon; 2. a solid sleep routine, including a quiet and dark environment, comfortable temperature, no screen at least 30 minutes before going to bed, and sleep early.

2. Practice logic games – in recent tests, the LG section has been fairly constant in the combination of game types, one sequencing game, two grouping games, and one hybrid game. Practice more with the LG section can help us get familiar with the game board setups and nodes to split/push out inferences. Besides, the logic game section is more independent and doesn't require much supportive knowledge like LR and RC.

3. Review your wrong LR questions – now is the time to use your wrong questions journal or log. Doing this would help avoid making the same mistakes in the actual test and decrease the stress by knowing how much improvement you have made along with the study.

4. Revisit your RC strategy – at this point, it is tough to make a significant improvement on RC because reading is such a fundamental skill that we've been practicing for years and years. It is hard to change that in a short amount of time. The good news is that the RC topics in recent tests are consistent too, including one science passage, one law passage, and two humanities passages (history, art, anthropology, paleontology, etc.)

5. Get distracted – it sounds counter-intuitive to get distracted close to the big test. And I understand all the anxiety makes the LSAT the only focus in most June test takers' lives. But the intense focus comes with more stress, making people have trouble sleeping well and even weakening their immune system. The last thing you want is to be sick on your test day. I broke the bad cycle by doing something I enjoyed and unrelated to the LSAT. Funny enough is that I even went to a Buddhist temple to calm my nerve. When I returned to the LSAT, I felt so much positivity toward the test, and my mind was refreshed. It is like the LSAT had been torturing my brain, and I rescued it by taking a break.

Of course, all the tips above are based on my and my students' experience. They don't cover all the situations. Please share your advice and wisdom below so that other LSAT takers can benefit from them. Also, if you have more questions for me, please don't hesitate to reach out by DM or leave a comment here. Best luck to all June LSAT takers. You will nail it!

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Hello!

I won’t be offering any tips or tricks on the mechanics of the LSAT as that’s been covered ten times over and I don’t think I can add anything of value that hasn’t been said before. I’d love to lend a few words to everyone on here though because you all have helped me immensely in what has been a very long journey. I’ll try to keep it relatively short. First off, THANK YOU to this community, you have been a beacon in some really frustrating and quite frankly hard times. You’ve provided worthwhile advice and some levity to a really intense and drawn out process.

One thing I’ve learned in retrospect (and from my always poignant and thankfully non law school gf), that I think we all should hear…

It’s so easy to get wrapped up in this process of studying and admissions. In fact, I would venture to say that everyone in this community is an over-achiever in some way. You all care immensely about your future and that’s wonderful and what will ultimately make you all successful in your own ways. With that though comes a huge amount of pressure, whether external or self-imposed. So, if I could offer one final piece of advice, it would be this:

Breathe. Find time, as best you can, to live life outside of the LSAT/admissions bubble. It’s a fantastic place with truly amazing people trying to help one another, but you have to find the time to take your dog for a walk, to go on that date, to call your mom, to watch your favorite movie, to smile at the sunset. The moment that I really started living my life again in conjunction with thoughtful, intentional studying, was the moment that I started performing my best on this test (not that that should be the main motivation for doing it).

So hustle, study hard, put in the time, but it’s equally important to exhale, to think about something else, something silly and inconsequential, to put away that prep book, to allow yourself to ignore the newest medians for a day, to close that reddit tab and remember that there’s more to this world than the LSAT and law school.

Don’t let life happen without you while going through this journey because I promise you, nothing is worth losing yourself, even for a moment. This test and process are truly a give and take, and sometimes the harder you force it, the more it will push back against you too.

I hope this helps even a little bit and thank you all again for providing a great space for the past few years!

Oh, and big shout out to Chris Ngyuen and jmarmaduke for being great tutors and guides, as well as EmmaJean Holley for being a fantastic and lovely writing coach.

-Best,

David

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I'm studying for the second time and I am scheduled to take again in August. I haven't taken a full LSAT since I tested and got a 151 in November (it was v rough). I'm going through the CC again and just finished strengthening. Should I take a full PT or should I just get through the CC and then PT?

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Took PT 90 on LawHub today, found there was already an experimental LR section in that. For those you have taken PT 91,92 on LawHub, are the experimental sections different in each of them or is it just 2 LR sections in both?

Don't want to know the exact experimental sections in 91 and 92 - please don't comment - like to stimulate real testing conditions, request anyone to commenting to just tell if there are different sections or just 2 LR in both. If its only LR in both, I will take a different (LG/RC) on 7sage to stimulate the random experimental, so asking for that purpose.

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Wondering if there are any other paralegals/legal assistants here? I work full time at a law firm so I’m taking my studying slowly. I definitely think it’s an advantage to start out your journey as a paralegal but also it’s hard to find time to study.

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So I have been out of undergrad for less than a year, and I have been committing my life to the LSAT. I decided that I am going to try and get my LORs in line for when I apply, but the only issue is I was never close to any of my professors in undergrad, and I'm not confident they would write one for me. What am I supposed to do in this situation? I don't really have any mentors that could write one for me, attesting to my academic ability and work ethic, so am I just screwed?

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Hello! I am looking to apply this fall for the Fall 2023 cycle, ideally in October as suggested by a lot of discussions. I am planning on taking the LSAT in either September or October, or both. I started studying at the beginning of May and have seen hopeful progress!

I would like some advice—do I take the LSAT in September and sign up for October just in case, or do I wait until October to sign up for the first time and sign up for November just in case?

I’m thinking of signing up for 2 just because I want to have my application in as soon as possible and if I don’t do so well on the first one (though positive thinking—I’m gonna kill it), I can take the second one and still apply during the earlier part of the application cycles.

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I started studying for the LSAT in early April of this year, scored a 145 diagnostic. I have gone through the curriculum and now my Practice Test high is a 153. I am planning to sit for the August or September test. Any advice on how to spend the next 3/3 1/2 months? I am studying full time.

I have improved my LG from -17 (April 1)->-11 (today); RC -16 (April 1) ->-10 (today); LR -15 (April 1)->-8 (today)

I am doing the Logic Game repetition and fool-proofing method and am currently taking 2 PTs a week and doing 1-2 individual timed sections in between.

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What do the percentages mean when you hover over the answer choice column while Reviewing Results of practice problems you did. Are these the percentages of people that got them right the first time around (timed)? Or are these blind review percentages? They are very high for the correct answer choices (90% and up) then the incorrect answer choices have very low number like 2%, 6%, 12%, etc. I was wondering if that many people are getting these questions right when they do these problems the first time, timed, around because I get a lot wrong.

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I will be applying before my final year so I still have classes to take. Does admissions focus on the GPA at application or do they also look at the possibility of an increase with me having 24 credit left?

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It's frustrating when we don't get grades we want no matter how hard we try. I am wondering if any of those in law school is under a consistent threat of getting a heart attack because they do not get the grade they want or just have a stupidly difficult time even trying to pass a course. Is it like riding an endless roller coaster pursuing a JD degree? Do you feel like it is an endless rat race? Please share....

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