Hi. I got a 160 on the November 2021 LSAT. I'm not satisfied with this score, but I'd like to see how well I did on each section so that I can tell which sections need the most improvement for January. Where can you check for this?

So like many others, I didn't do too hot on November's test. I was interrupted several times during the LG and RC sections and even filed a complaint that LSAC completely ignored. So as disappointing as it is, I at least know that that test wasn't indicative of my best performance, and I know that I can do great in January. However, I wanted to apply in December, which means I'd have to apply with my current score. I've heard that if I apply now and retake in January, my application will have still counted as being sent in December even without a final score. Is this true? I'd really like to be able to do this so I can submit my applications early and then spent the next month grinding on for January's test.

Hey,

I apologize for the length of the post but would really appreciate if someone, anyone can share some advice for how to navigate a large LSAT score drop. My November 2020 score was a 166 and I just received my Nov 2021 score which was a 159, a 7 point decrease. I’ve been preparing for this retake for almost a year and I was PTing in the high 160s, breaking 170-172 one in every few tests. My last three PTs before the exam were all recent exams on which I scored 167-171 (even a 174 with BR). On test day, I felt decent after the exam. I noticed a relatively significant struggle with one RC passage and timing near the end of LG, but that’s not entirely uncommon, and usually places me toward the bottom of my range around a 165-167. I panicked a little at first when starting the test, but recognized the adrenaline rush and revisited those early questions that I felt were fogged by this response. As you can imagine, I am totally crushed about this score drop. I hadn’t scored a 159 on a single PT and was expecting mid to high 160s. It’s not the score itself (I am not looking to put down any scores!!) , but rather the work behind the retake and the look of this down trend. I really must have been off or out of it but I am honestly quite confused. Between work, burnout, and this score blow, I am not ready to jump into another administration, so while I could potentially retake in the spring, I am feeling far from up for it at this time and will need to carry on with the app cycle as it stands. At this time, the majority of my applications are in and I am hoping someone can advise on how to address this 7 point drop to the schools I have already submitted apps to. I’m sure there are reasons for the drop but I was genuinely shocked and confused; I don’t really know what to say. There is at least one school that requires I address this variance. Has anyone ever navigated a similar situation? Do I need to also submit an explanation to the schools that don’t explicitly ask for an explanation? I don’t want to search for false explanations or excuses. Can I give a more concise/cogent version of the above?

Apologies for the lengthy post. Many many many thanks for any input and I wish you all the scores and schools of your dreams. 🙏

Hey peeps! I just got my score back (decent but will definitely be retaking it in Feb) and was trying to see my score breakdown to see which questions I got right and wrong, but LSAT says these files are "unavailable". To my knowledge the Nov 2021 LSAT is disclosed, and when the LSAT is disclosed score reports are available immediately. Does anyone know how I can access the score breakdown?

Update: Apparently God-Emperor LSAC has decided to discontinue disclosing recent LSAT scores for the time being. They stopped allowing score breakdowns to be released since the pandemic began and the LSAT Flex got popularized. Hopefully they'll add it back eventually. Until then, PT's for me!

Hi,

So I did not score high on the november lsat :( I got a 157.

I did have a five point increase from the last time I wrote the LSAT (152 in august). I'm unsure where to go from here study wise. Do I stick to my study method (1 PT a week, blind review, 7sage videos to help me with LR/LG I am struggling with)? Should I focus more on CC? I just originally felt like it was time consuming and wanted to start practicing sooner rather than later. Do i change it? Does any one with their successful score have any study method tips?

If it matters, I didn't get 7sage and use the study method above until september.

Please help!!!!!

Hi all. Looking for some advice about possibly retaking the LSAT for a 4th time in January. My top choice is University of Toronto. My stats are 164 LSAT and 3.96 CGPA. Im above their median GPA and below the LSAT median. (UofT’s 25th percentile LSAT is 165 and median is 168. 75th percentile GPA is 3.93 and median is 3.88).Given this, I’m wondering about my chances and if I should retake the LSAT a 4th time. They need not wait for the later scores to review your file, they review with scores already on file. If your score is competitive, they’ll go ahead and make an admissions decision and if not, they’ll reassess when they have a new score. Any advice on whether these stats are competitive or if it’s worth it to retake? Thank you!!

While I know this will not ensure the highest score nor is optimal, I'd like to hear from those ahead of me on which parts of the syllabus I can leave out and possible revisit if time allows. I would like to move to prep tests and running low on time before January.

In community. Thanks.

I just got my LSAT score back and am wondering if it tells you what you scored in each section or not. I have to retake it in January but don't know what I need to focus on.

I just saw some people post about how law schools are now accepting GRE scores as well as LSAT at every ABA accredited school. I also saw some articles online about it. Just wanted to reach out and ask if this is true, and if anyone else has any information on it, and what are the implications other than having more options.

So I had a really difficult time with this question because of answer choice A. When it says "takes for granted," is that saying the author is assuming the information in this choice to be true? And why isn't the information in A pointing out a flaw? If it were the case that a different advertising campaign would do better than the one LRG went with, wouldn't the marketing consultant's conclusion be invalid?

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-2-question-15/

Does anyone have a LR study guide that I could use that explains the strategy for each question type?

Hi all,

Im taking my first LSAT in January. Can I send in my applications without the LSAT score? I see that there is an option on the apps to put when you plan to take the LSAT if you haven't already. Is there a benefit/negative to sending in your application without your LSAT score?

(E) says that "There are some societies where there exists no concept of blame;" however, this could not possibly weaken Passage B's argument.

Elsewhere in the passage, one of the authors writes that "rehabilitation" (i.e. non-blame-focused) judicial systems dominated in the mid-twentieth-century, but this resulted in a huge blame-focused backlash in subsequent decades.

These societies had "no concept of blame," but they ended up seeing the consequences of that later.

Someone help me out?

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Does anyone have a good comprehensive strategy for addressing these question types? They are very similar to strengthen, but for some reason I find them more difficult. For example, often times the answers appear as principles, sometimes a weaker principle would work for one question and a stronger principle is required for another. Does anyone have a good method for eliminating answer choices here and selecting a choice with the correct amount of strength?

Thanks,

Oliver

I do not want school that I applied to take my upcoming test into consideration, I do not want them to delay the response because of that. Will LSAC notify my school that I registered for a new test?

Looking to find a group that would like to do virtual studying and also check-ins regarding LSAT progress and what was done for the day/week!

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Here is a groupme: https://groupme.com/join_group/83815277/lZ8Xzxvi

What is the best way to approach the 7sage study plan? Often times it asks for like 30hrs a weeks of studying and as a full time student, I can't commit to that. My plan is to take the June 2022 LSAT, so I would like to get through the entire plan if needed/possible.

I lost my credit card over the weekend and wasn't able to access problem sets so I attributed it to that. After receiving my new card and updating payment info on 7Sage I am still unable to access problem sets because 7Sage is saying my Prep Plus account is not linked, when I click 'link my account' it takes me to prep plus and says that it is linked?

I'd love to get back to studying haha, has anyone experienced this before?

Hey everyone. I am planning to retake the lsat in January or February 2022 with the hopes of getting a 170 or above. I first took the LSAT in October 2020 and got a 165. I applied to T-14/20 schools and didn't get in to where I wanted, so I decided to delay my law school plans. I have now decided to reapply to law schools in the Fall of 2022 and want to get the highest score possible.

I have been studying now for about a month and am about at a 160 as I try to get reaccumulated with this test. LG is by far my easiest with not missing more than 2. LR and RC are equally hard. I have been blind reviewing around 80% for LR in the last week. The timing is still a killer for me. Any suggests on if I should push the test back till February to give me more time? I know I have the time but would love to get this horrible test over with asap. Thanks!!

Hi 7sagers,

As I am close to finishing my school applications, I now have extra time that I used before for LSAT study. I saw some posts about test day questions, and I would like to share my own test day experience and tips

Pick a time slot that works best for your body and brain

We set up our "preferred time slot" for practice tests, but if you are like me, who would predictably get anxious for the real test, it might not be a bad idea to pick a slot that 1 - 2 hours later than the usual practice test time to calm the overly hyped body and brain. I did it for the Oct test, and it turned out to work well.

Brain warm-up if you can

If you decide to give yourself an extra 1 - 2 hours before the actual test, you may want to meditate, do some light exercises, and warm up your brain. There are some other discussions about how to warm up before the test. The standard way is to do one game, one passage, and 7 - 8 LR questions. I found that warm-up with LG questions only works best because LG questions integrate understanding, inferences, and diagrams, which quickly alert the brain and transfer it to the test mode.

Talking about LG, just a side note - you will only allow five pieces of scratch paper for the entire test. No refill over the break. So diagram as much as you want, but also be cautious just in case there are 2 LG sections, and you will have to diagram a TON.

Ask the proctor if you have any question BEFORE starting the test

If you have any test-related question, make sure to ask. There is a 10 - 20 mins check-in section before starting the test, and after you finish the check-in, most proctors will not force you to begin the test right away unless you agree that you are ready as well. Take your time to clear all test-related questions so you can focus later. If your proctors forget to mute their microphone, it's also okay to politely ask them to mute themselves.

Restrain water intake

You will allow bringing a clear bottle of water (around 20 ounces), but may want to use it considerably. I nervously drank the whole bottle over my second RC section, and ended up focusing on something else than fully dedicated to the test in my last section. I might score slightly better if I did not abuse the water resource XD

You can eat in front of the camera but cannot miss the check-in after the break

There will be a 10 mins break before your third section, and you will have to click "check-in" within this 10 mins in order to continue the test. Even if you click at the 5-minute, the test will not be resumed until it reaches the full 10 mins break. So if you are really afraid of losing minutes or forget to click in, just click "check-in" first, and then do whatever helps you with the test (whatever that does not violate the LSAC rule; no phone or any other electronic devices. But it's a perfect snack time!)

After finishing the test, do not close the test window immediately.

Check with your proctors, and they will guide you to exit safely.

Additionally, to my international test-taking fellows: don't let the "language barrier" (or whatever other people may have said) discourage you. You don't have to be an English master to write the test. But I would suggest starting a personal LSAT vocab dictionary for unfamiliar words from stimulus or passages, such as legal terms. Some of these terms are not familiar to native speakers either. Don't be discouraged -- everyone was once a beginner!

Good luck to everyone! Please feel free to reach out if you have any question about test prepping! I am happy to help!

QS

Hello,

I'm having a very hard time understanding the unscored section.

So far as I can see, the LSAT will always have at least one of each of the three section types, with one additional experimental section—that is unscored—drawing from any of those three types. Thus, there are a total of 4 sections when you go to take the LSAT, but only 3 count toward your score.

Thus, I am having a hard time understanding why each of the PrepTests I have taken so far have four sections, all of which appear to be scored. My most recent practice test had my get a score out of approximately 26 for each of the 4, for a total of about 101 available points. That seems to be the case for any raw score conversion of any available PrepTest. But if one of those four sections was experimental, why are we getting scored for it? Why can't I identify which one of the sections on these old tests was experimental and thus not consider it in my actual score?

Am I missing something? Did the LSAT only recently change to having 3 scored sections? What is the disconnect here?

Thanks

Team,

I just joined 7sage. I struggle immensely with RC. I have been scoring a consistent 13-15 correct for months now. It’s actually incredible. I am very solid at LG and LR is in the 20+ range consistently as well.

I am an engineer so there wasn’t much reading in my undergrad - it was mostly problem solving. I think my fundamental skills are lacking and that’s why I struggle so much. I am not in a hurry to take the LSAT, but RC is the only action I am not performing where I would like to be. So it is frustrating being held back so from taking it by one section.

I have heard the advice to take my time and do 3 passages entirely and correctly, and guess on the 4th. It seems to work better for me and I am okay with that because it’ll get me to 20 correct, but I just can’t seem to get 3 done correctly.

I am losing hope. If anyone has any ideas I would greatly appreciate it. Granted I just joined so I have not tried any 7sage material yet.

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I've been actively practicing reading comp for a while now 6+ months and my score is at a stagnant and constant 15/27. I do the problems and do blind review and still have issues. I feel like I'm constantly -2 or -3 on each passage and I don't know how to improve my accuracy. I feel more comfortable doing RC, but I don't understand why my accuracy fails. What has helped you improve on RC? I'm feeling stuck and I am open to any suggestions.

Hi Guys I had a diagnostic of 143, and have been PT'ing around 144-146 recently, my biggest struggle is grouping games from logic games. I've heard the best way to learn is to teach others, so if anyone is kind enough and knowledgable, I'd love to learn logic games from you, thanks