Hi all,

I've been studying all summer, completed the CC and did 5 timed PT's thus far. My goal score is a 161-163 and although I have been hitting that in all of my blind reviews, I've yet to break past a 156 on an actual take and I am not quite sure why... Upon BR I am consistently hitting -2 to -4 on RC, -2 to -4 on LG and -5 to -8 on LR, but the variance between my timed take and BR is significant.

I'm taking both the Oct and Nov LSAT and of course would like to score in my BR range, any tips on bridging this gap? It seems that its mostly nerves getting the best of me because the questions I typically struggle on in my timed take, I still I correct quite easily during BR, and I often get them incorrect the first time because I am second-guessing myself. The most gains I get from BR'ing are in RC and LG, I suppose because I feel more relaxed without time restrictions and don't feel compelled to rush?

Any tips to bridge that gap would be appreciated. As well as any tips to calm down nervousness, block out useless thoughts and improving confidence!

Hey all. I recently completed practice test 91 on LawHub and an argument part type question's AC has me a little confused. I don't want to give spoilers away for the question... so not going to provide too much detail.

But one of the AC's is "It points up by example a contrast from which the conclusion is drawn."

Specifically "it points up" - I've never seen this used before in my life. Have you?

Is it a typo where they meant to say "it points out"?

Thank you and keep up the good work everyone!

I'm having a bit of trouble with my personal statements. Any feedback would be appreciated and I'm sure that others are probably in the same boat. I basically have 3 different avenues I could go

childhood trouble as a child of divorce - looking at my mom's attorney and knowing i want to be a lawyer for capacity to help people

a) potentials issues - I was going to relate it to how i projected on a fictional character but in reality the hero of the story is the lawyer..... is it too juvenile?

working at a law office and how everyone says they 'cant do' that type of work - but i think the toughest things are motivated by love of those that want to see them out of prison

a) potential issues - only been working there a few months and theyll see that on my resume

b) confidentiality issues - obviously I wont be giving away any personal information but i dont want it to seem like I see clients as inspirational stories rather then actual people, you know?

I was in a bad car accident and have been very angry at the person who broke the law and hit me. this conflicts with what i am interested in as an attorney but working in a law office has given the opportunity for me to see the forgiveness in it?

Let me know if you have any ideas and also if you have them id be happy to give my two sense. thanks so much :)

I don't see a place in lawhub for my OCT 2021 LSAT registration. Was the Aug 2021 administered on lawhub? Will the Oct 2021 be administered on lawhub? Thanks.

I’ve noticed PT91 and PT92 have two LG sections each, but do we ever get this in the real exam?

When these questions appear, I get really confused and have a hard time interpreting them, because they are so abstract. It feels like the author is trying to say something very all knowing and wise, even on silly subjects, but the language is hard to decode. Especially when morality comes up. Is there a way to train myself to solidify these concepts, or any techniques you can use. Greatly appreciated!

Hello Everyone,

I'm taking the October LSAT and plan on taking atleast two more PTs before my test date, should I take the older PTs (I have a few late 70s high 80s saved) which have answer explanations uploaded, or take the newest tests even though they don't have the explanations up and just try and explain them to myself? I feel like there are benefits to both but I'd like to hear another opinion!

Does anyone know if the evening/part time applications are separate for schools or is that something that's done post acceptance? I'm looking at Depaul, Loyola Chicago and Kent-Chicago

Hello Everybody,

I am currently working my way through the Logic Games section. I've taken multiple symbolic logic courses in University and learned all about logical operators, such as ampersand (conjunctions), wedge (disjunction), horseshoe/arrow (conditional) and triple bar (biconditional).

I keep trying to translate the given sentences with the common logical operators used in symbolic logic, but the 7Sage program seems to only use conditionals to translate every sentence...

One example that stood out to me is: "Neither ... nor". In symbolic logic that normally translates to either (~A & ~B ) or into ~(A v B ), according to the DeMorgan's laws. However, 7Sage suggests the translation: A -> ~B C -> ~B

Can someone explain to why we aren't using the other logical operators? It is distinctly possible that I am missing something or misunderstood something, so I would appreciate any help!

Johanna

Hi all,

I'm looking for someone or a mini-group of folks to full proof LG with me.

I take my test in November, but I am going to do some LG full proofing before then, and I think it would be a good idea not to go it alone. SO what I was thinking is having someone to help with accountability and staying on track. We could email each other at the beginning of the week and commit to full-proofing say Games 1-10 this week, and then check in at the end of the week to make sure we did. We'd repeat this cycle until we feel like we've reached our goal/are prepared to take the test.

Anyone up for this. I find the repetition of full proofing difficult, but it would be easier knowing someone is doing the same thing as me. Let me know if you're interested!

My previous tutor who scored 176 on the LSAT Flex and attends HLS now submitted the following wrong answer journal to me. Currently, this is the template I use to to visually represent my reasonings for LR and RC sections. Could you please share yours as well? I have seen folks use Excel, table, etc to do it but personally, I like what I currently use the best.

MP+MC Pset 1: LSAT 35 Question 9

Prephrase: Not intended to be in accordance with formal set of rules → reason did not play a role in the act → cannot be considered moral behavior

I was curious if anyone has a master list of all the schools that don’t have an application fee this cycle??

Hi. I am about to join 7 sage paid services. I am new.

i will probably write lsat in coming November.

Do you guys have any plan to upload the video explanations for

PT90(experimental LR),PT91,PT92-Explanations prior to November LSAT?

Hey everyone! Ive been pting in the high 150's low 160's and I was wondering if anyone was interested in forming a November lsat study group with me to keep each other accountable and to review our sections together! Please let me know if anyone is interested and we can make a discord group chat together :)

I take the November test and need to score at least 160. Basically need to raise my score 15 points within this month. Has anyone else done this before? Were you able to raise a significant amount of points within 1 month? Any motivation and positive feedback will help

Any ideas on the timeline?

Hi everyone! Happy Friday. On my last few practice tests I have gotten between -1 to -3 on my first LR section and then, if LR shows up a second time, my score plummets to -7/-8 on the second LR. How is this possible? Does anyone have any tips to avoid a big point drop-off between the first and second LR if it were to show up twice on test day? If it makes a difference, these tests were in the 60's. Thanks :)

Hello! While taking PT's I started creating a question stem chart. I would always get so nervous to get a question incorrect, due to being unsure what "type of question" it was referring to... I am an overthinker lol. I don't know about anyone else, but drilling questions is cool and all buttttttttttt I got soooo use to KNOWING what question I was doing when drilling the same type of question over and over. Hope this helps! I don't know if it shows every question type... I've been taking the most recent PT's so I've been building it as I go

What's your least favorite question type? What approach do you take? What's your favorite?

Mine is main conclusion (3(/p)

However, my least favorite is PSA Vs. SA... Anyone care to explain these two to me :) What approach do you use to answer the question?

If I made an error, please tell me.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/105zPPw0Wpllf9bc3T9VyNAxNjiQKHDV-urFsMkTy_CI/edit

I'm disagreeing with how JY did this because we can't use common sense in MBT nor make up assumptions because we think it makes sense to us. MSS is fine because it's always a 95% certainty and 5% wiggle room for some common sense.

That is invalid because what is a valid argument and what is a sound argument are two different things. In MBT we are focusing if it is valid not if it is sound but JY isn't doing that

His argument goes in the lawgic

Standard committee ---> 6 PM

General assembly ----> 7 pm

6 isn't 7

so 6 ----> /7

Which he gets

SQ ----> 6 ---> /7 ----> /General assembly

The problem is that is not a valid argument. We can't negate assumptions since we are removing alot of presumptions.

I KNOW that 6 isn't 7, but thats not the controversy. The controversy is aligning an assumption against another assumption through negation, which that's not a valid argument.

For all we know in sound arguments, 6 is 7, or 6 does not necessarily contradict 7 (or vice versa)

Why not? Because what if it lasts 5 minutes the assembly. What if the coordinators are so stupid that they do it at the same time. Not common sense but still valid.

Parallel flaw example:

Juan likes tacos

Jake likes cars

Tacos aren’t cars

Therefore Juan —> /Jake

=====================

The lawgic

Juan –> tacos

Jake —> Cars

tacos—-> /cars

Therefore Juan —> Jake

Explanation Video: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-83-section-1-question-18/

Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of the question"

When I started compiling my school list in May/June, I felt like I was very competitive candidate at some great schools. Especially Villanova, in 2020 their LSAT median was a 158 and GPA was 3.51. After covid, those numbers have gone up significantly. Their median LSAT is now a 162. My question is: Does this past year really make people who were competitive in 2020 less so now?

My GPA is a 3.92, I am a double major with experience working for local government, U.S. Congress, employment discrimination law firm in D.C., a teaching assistant for an entire academic year, a full time internship with a policy think tank in D.C., and some more extracurricular stuff such as studying abroad at the London School of Economics this year and involved in some clubs. However, my LSAT is a 159. I am taking it again in 2 weeks and I am psyching myself out and becoming extremely worried that this might be my last chance to get in anywhere.

Does anyone think I have a good chance at Villanova? Their covid numbers are 3.51-3.83 and 157-164.

Hi folks, as the title says, I am an incredibly slow reader. In order to not get bogged down by the details, I've tried to focus on reasoning structure and what the main point of each paragraph is. However, I spend so much time reading that I barely get to passage 4 (if I do, its only with 4 minutes left and that is not enough to confidently answer all the questions). I am averaging -10 to -12.

I don't know how untimed drills are supposed to help me, but if anyone has any tips, I'd appreciate it

Hey does anybody know what J.Y is using to write on screen with ( The electronic pen)???

I find it very useful for logic games the way you're able to delete/ copy master game boards

Hello all, my GPA calculated by LSAC is significantly lower than the GPA on my transcript. Which should I include on my law school resume? Additionally, would you recommend writing an addendum? The lower LSAC GPA is because my undergrad university doesn't include pass/fail credits into GPA, whereas LSAC does. I studied abroad for a semester and failed two courses while abroad. Honestly I don't really have a good reason - I just didn't focus on classes very much while studying abroad. Do any of you think it would be a good idea to write an addendum or will it just draw attention to a negative part of my application?

Hey Everyone,

As you have probably seen from the title, I am struggling HORRIBLY with the reading comp section, I always get about -15 wrong, even before I used 7Sage I never did this bad. I do well on all other sections, but can't seem to get any improvements on this on in particular.

Has there been any tips or tricks that have helped you overcome RC? I am taking the October LSAT next week and am worried that this section will ruin my score. I am losing hope for this section and filled with anxiety that I won't improve.

Any suggestions will be amazing, thank you :)

OK, HEAR ME OUT. Something that helped me go from -7/9 to -4 on RC is, and some might be against this but we get desperate sometimes, actually skipping a passage all together, specifically the comparative passage. NOW BEFORE YOU HATE ME FOR THIS, JUST SEE WHAT I HAVE TO SHARE.

I always struggled with timing on RC, and when I read faster, my accuracy went down. So what my tutor taught me is as you go through the section, read the passages slowly, take your time really understanding what the passage is saying, and don't move on to the questions until you have a good understanding. Then, do the questions as normal. When you get to the comparative passage, pick a letter and answer that letter for all the questions. Don't even read the passage or questions, just fill in the letter and move on. Go back to in-depth reading and answering for the rest of the passages.

What you might find is because you skipped a passage, you'll have about 3-6 minutes left over to go back and review the skipped comparative passage (this will fluctuate as you get more confident with RC). When you go back to the comparative, don't read the passage, but skim over the questions and see which you can answer without actually reading the whole passage. These will be questions like ones that only deal with passage A/B, ones that reference a specific area of passage A/B, or structure questions that you might be able to point out. Look at the answer you selected while skipping and see if the answer makes sense. If it doesn't, change it to one that does make more sense or simply a different one.

Normally, with selecting the same letter for all of a passage's questions, at least one is going to be right. After that, your review with your extra time should help you get one or two more right. Now, the key to this strategy is that you must work on getting all of the questions right on the other passages that you took your time on. This might sound scary, but you might surprise yourself on how much you can understand and answer when you give yourself the time. If you get all the other passage problems correct, and you get at least one right with your skipping due to all of them being the same letter, you will automatically go down to -6/7 depending on how many questions the comparative passage has. Add the questions that you might get right from your second quick review of the comparative and you can bring that down to -4/5.

I HATED RC and I never thought I could conquer it, but this strategy has allowed me to be so comfortable with it because I can slow read and really understand the passages which makes the questions a lot easier, while still using analytical skills, that are easier to master than speed reading, to squeeze out those extra points. If anyone has any questions, please reach out to me. I'd love to help a fellow RC strugglers :)