Hey 7sagers,

I need some advice. I've been working in corporate america for the last two years. I have an amazing relationship with my boss, but the job gives me so much anxiety and is so demanding. Some events happened that allowed my boss to ask me to think about if I want to stay another year or not. She wants the best for me. We are good friends, but I cant work with her much anymore because she is the cause of a lot of my anxiety lol.

I'm thinking about quiting in June versus staying until I wear out my welcome lol. I'm sure she will give me a letter of recommendation but I'm concerned about how that may look to law schools. I'm planning to apply by october 1at this year. Quiting will allow me more time to craft my essays and take the lsat in August.

I feel like after all of the work I put into the company it's time for me to step out and believe in myself. After all I've been putting off law school for three years now.

I have family support and will live off my savings until I find something I love to do until law school starts. Any advice ? Will the gap from june to October look bad?

Hi everyone,

I'm curious what you think. I want to practice law in the midwest or south, and I'm looking at schools like WUSTL, Vandy, and UT-Austin. I might send an app to GULC/Cornell just for the hell of it– I'm leaning a little toward NY BigLaw; not sure at this point, but if I get in at a t15 northeastern school, I'd heavily consider it. In addition to my gpa/lsat, I have cookie-cutter softs for a law school applicant, and assume average LORs and personal statement. I have some part-time work experience from undergrad and I'm taking a gap year to work as a court clerk before going to law school.

What do you guys think about my chances at the schools listed? I tried MyLSN and 7sage's predictor, but they're giving conflicting reports. 7sage says that I'd have ~80% chance at WUSTL, but the MyLSN graph shows a lot of people with my stats getting waitlisted/rejected. Also, are the 2019 ABA 509 reports for schools the official stats/medians for next cycle (fall 2020), or will schools come out with Class of 2023 stats later this year as the new application window opens?

Thank you all. I owe my improvement to 7sage!

I've been wondering about a different approach to answering the questions in LR sections, in hopes of improving time and accuracy....has anyone heard of an approach where you would answers the LR questions by the type of question (MP, MSS, etc) instead of numerical order? For example, answering all of the MP questions first then tackling all of the MSS question and so on. Instead of jumping our minds from one type of question to another, could it help to tackle all the same type of questions together and then move on? Thoughts?

7Sage Course Changes

Beginning on March 29th, our Starter, Premium, and Ultimate courses will no longer be available for purchase.

Instead, we will offer two subscription Ultimate+ options.

The first option is USD $69/month.

The second option is USD $599 for one year (12 months).

Both options are equivalent to the current Ultimate+ course in terms of content access. That means every single PrepTest, the entire Question Bank and Problem Set generator, all the video explanations, etc. In a word: everything. As new PrepTests get released and explanations made, they will be automatically added to your account.

But...

LSAC Changes

In order to use either option, you must have an active LSAC Prep Plus subscription from LSAC which they launched yesterday and for which they charge $99/year. You might have already heard about this from these two posts on reddit.com/r/lsat.

What wasn't mentioned is the fact that with the launch of LSAC Prep Plus, every student who wants to use a prep course that uses real LSAT questions must have an active LSAC Prep Plus subscription. That includes us, 7Sage, and any other LSAT prep course that uses real LSAT questions.

Again, this means that in order to purchase our course once the change takes effect on March 29th, you must have an active LSAC Prep Plus subscription ($99/year). For example, enrolling in our courses will cost:

Option 1: USD $69/month + $99/year for LSAC Prep Plus

Option 2: USD $599/year + $99/year for LSAC Prep Plus

Note that you only need one LSAC Prep Plus subscription no matter how many prep courses you use. That means that if you use prep courses from multiple companies, you don't need to purchase multiple LSAC Prep Plus accounts. You can use the same one. But, and I'm repeating myself, if you want to use any prep course that uses real LSAT questions, you must sign up for LSAC Prep Plus.

Grandfathered Courses

Students who get or already have a Starter, Premium, Ultimate, Ultimate+ course before March 29th will be grandfathered into the course they currently have. In short, this means that these changes do not affect you as long as your grandfathered course is active. You will still have the option to extend at the current rate.

For example, if your Premium course expires on July 1, then you will continue to have access to your Premium course until it expires on July 1. Or you can extend it. You will not need to purchase an LSAC Prep Plus subscription. Again, in short, you won't be affected by these changes. You can stop reading here.

The longer version is that for some but not all of the grandfathered courses, an LSAC Prep Plus subscription will actually be needed. But, if this applies to you, you won't need to pay the $99 fee. We will cover it for you. Obviously, we don't want to incur this fee, but we also don't want you to incur it either.

Questions

These are big changes and you probably have questions. Please ask. We'll collect your questions and answer with an update in a FAQ in a week.

FAQ Update

Question 1:

For grandfathered accounts, what extension options are available?

Answer 1:

Right now extensions are available for 1 month at a time only for $25/month. Soon, we will make them available for 1, 2, or 3 months at a time at $25/month. There will not be an option for automatic subscription for grandfathered accounts. If you wish to keep your grandfathered account active, you must manually extend before the account expires. Once the account expires, it will be gone and cannot be reactivated.

Question 2:

Can I enroll in the new Ultimate+ course (monthly or 12-months) right now or before March 29?

Answer 2:

Likely yes but our system is not yet ready. The planned transition date is March 29. If we can get it ready before then, we will let you know here.

Question 3:

Say it's May and I have a grandfathered account. I know that means I won't have to pay for LSAT Prep Plus ($99) but you said I "might be required to have one anyway." How will I be contacted if that applies to me and what will I need to do?

Answer 3:

If this applies to you then you will receive an invite email from LSAC saying that you have a subscription already. You just have to login to LSAC to accept it.

Question 4:

Currently, Starter, Premium, and Ultimate courses can upgrade and purchase new PrepTests as addons as they are released. After March 29, will this still be possible?

Answer 4:

Sorry, no. After March 29, there will no longer be any upgrades or purchase additional PrepTests addon options. Grandfathered S/P/U accounts (i.e. S/P/U accounts purchased before March 29) will only have the option to extend their existing account (see Question 1) or the option to enroll in the new Ultimate+ options.

Question 5:

Is it a better deal to purchase Ultimate+ now and get a grandfathered account or wait? It seems like it's a better deal to wait since it will be $50 cheaper ($599 + $99 LSAC Prep Plus) = $698 versus right now it's $749.

Answer 5:

It depends. The content and access time for both are the same. The costs are not.

Ultimate+ now is $749 with $25/month extension option.

Ultimate+ after March 29th is $599 + $99 LSAC PrepPlus for the first 12 month = $698. If you need to go over 12 months, you can extend at $69/month but you also need to repurchase LSAC PrepPlus for $99 again because it's an annual subscription.

So, if you're planning to study for 12 months or less, then probably waiting is the better deal. If you're planning to study for more than 12 months, probably getting a Ultimate+ now is the better deal.

For example, assume study time of 15 months.

Ultimate+ now is $749 + 3x$25 (3 month extension) = $824

Ultimate+ after March 29 = $599 + $99 (LSAC Prep Plus year 1) + 3x$69 (3 month extension) + $99 (LSAC Prep Plus year 2) = $1,004

Hi,

I am a PhD student of Genetics in India. I am interested to work in IP law. However, I have no idea if there is any special requisite to apply for law colleges in Canada or if any special fellowships available (cause I won't be able to study law without fellowship). Also if it is ok to go from PhD in Genetics to law (I know many go from engineering field, but not sure if students come from biology field as well ). I have converted my undergraduate score (First division) to GPA, it is coming 4 but not sure if Canada schools convert the score for international student or they disregard it. Is Credential Assembly Service Authentication and Evaluation (CAS A&E) compulsory for international students? Will they convert my undergraduate scoring to GPA?

I will highly appreciate and grateful, if someone has answer these queries.

Just wondering if there were any tutors on here anyone would recommend.

I was thinking that having a customizable timer for problem sets would add tremendous value, specifically for doing timed LR sections. As it stands you can't take a 35 minute timed LR section if you build your own problem set (unless there's some way that i'm not privy to), which would be really beneficial. Is this a possibility/consideration for future modifications? @studentservice

Is there a way to have the entire passage display (no questions to the right of the passage)?

I am using an iPad and trying to practice RC.

Thanks

So, I’ve recently discovered that some people score significantly less on the actual test as compared to PTs. There is a general “rule of thumb” that you typically score -3 from what you PT at. So if my target score is a 160, should I be comfortably at 163 before considering the real test?

What’s even more scary is I’ve seen that people drop like -8 or more on the actual test. For someone like me who is aiming for a 160, that much of a drop is absolutely terrifying. If I were to drop that much (assuming I’m actually capable of scoring a 160) then my score wouldn’t be near the median of the schools I’m looking at applying to.

This whole concept of test day drops is literally keeping me up at night, especially since anxiety is something I’ve always struggled with. So, right when I think LSAT prep is already hard enough, there is this possibility that I don’t even score what I’ve worked so hard for:(

Does anyone have a drilling schedule they used/found helpful? Currently going through the pre-made problem sets that 7Sage offers in their entirety, not sure if there's a better approach. Anything helps. Thanks!

I'm currently looking for one or max two study partners who I can drill ALOUD with on Ellen Cassidy's Basic Translation and What If? test methods.

Some soft prerequisites:

Has thoroughly read through Ellen Cassidy's "The Loophole in LSAT Logical Reasoning" and is committed to adopting and practicing her ways

Someone who wants extra practice in assumption spotting in LR OUT LOUD

BR in the170s

Preferably Pacific time zone

Flexible scheduling (meet via Discord 2-3x/week for 1-1.5 hours)

Look forward to connecting with you! Please message me if you are interested!

I'm confused by the question stem here:

The information above provides the LEAST support for which one of the following?

When I read the explanation, it said this is a MBT question. I thought this was a MBT EXCEPT question stem.

https://forum.powerscore.com/lsat/viewtopic.php?t=9232

Admin note: edited title; please use the format of "PT#.S#.Q# - [brief description]"

Admin note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-26-section-3-question-20/

I am unsure of what the problem is. I believe it may be an insufficient ability to translate English into Lawgic. Often times the ones I seem to get correct, my English---->Lawgic translation is incorrect.

I would like to continue through the course and just keep this weakness in the back of my mind. But I also would not like to do that at my own detriment. My questions are as follows:

Where can I go to practice these English ----> Lawgic translations without wasting the precious resources of actual problem sets.

Can I just go through the rest of the course while working on that and then return the MBT/SA questions at a later date?

Hello fellow sagers, I have recently finished the CC and now onto drilling and correcting and that whole process. I just took PT36 after completing CC as some suggested and I want to learn some strategies that will get the most out of reviewing. Planning on writing for April 2020

I like the BR method but had a question on how to approach review after BR, particularly for LR. The way I am going about it now is that I consolidate all the High urgency questions, tell myself why I though the answer was right then watch the explanation video.

Is this a good way to go about it? Any advice on strategy that'll truly improve understanding or anything I should add to my process that you find helpful?

Has anyone taken the exam at Rutgers New Brunswick somewhat recently or at all? If so, what was your

experience?

Hey 7sagers,

Been on this community for sometime – reading peoples posts, getting help, etc. 7sage is by far one of the best LSAT content out there. Since I have been scoring in the 160s, I wanted to give back to the community. I am deciding to now do free online tutoring/lsat coaching.

Before reading below, mind my spelling as I am in a rush typing this LOL

My LSAT journey:

About Me: To sum it up – I am busy!!!

Why am I doing this? ….

The Challenge: Trust me when I say this - I KNOW THE GRIND LOL. I know the tears….ripping up paper….. the feeling of throwing your tablet on the floor (but understanding shit you need it to type up your masters assignment)…feeling like you cant do it… giving up and never wanting to hear the four letter word LSAT….its real and I know it. However, for me… my wife has always been my number 1 supporter and has kept me a float all the time. I remember crying in her arms one time when I started a long time back– but at that point I didn’t really understand the LSAT and the LSAT world LOL… I come from a brown/desi family of over achievers. We are all perfectionists – people who on the first try get and achieve what they want. But, for me the LSAT wasn’t that and my perfectionism was killing me. My family didn’t really understand what the LSAT was. I am not going to even start to say what my in laws thought LOL. I remember my brother just telling me “bro just do PTs and get this done with” – only if they knew what the LSAT world is about. I remember the first time when I thought to consider LSAT tutoring – I was like “me… the guy who tutors for a living, really?” I understand the stigma and mental burden around asking people for help – sometimes it sucks, but sometimes its needed. To me the LSAT is a sport – just like any competition there is levels to it (the 170s people know what I mean). Just like any sport, people have coaches, mentors, teachers to show them the ropes, tips and tricks, etc. similarly, the LSAT is the same. I know how expensive and financially challenging this entire process can be. I know the financial aspect can be barrier for many. Tutoring can be expensive… so yeah. I am not sure if any of this relates LOL but I am sure it will ring the bell for some.

Better myself: At the end day, when I am helping you out, my LSAT knowledge improves.

How’d it work?

Preference:

If you are interested, DM me and will go from there!

Hey all! I was just really curious about the schedule. I’ve heard of people improving to 170+, and it taking a year or longer, but I’m personally just trying to get to 160 for my target school and I’m starting at around a 150. Would this also take a year like the schedule says? I’ve heard so many people claim it shouldn’t take a year to break 160s, but I just wanted to get some insight from the best LSAT community on the planet to ease my mind:)

So, I never actually took a “cold” diagnostic test. I have just recently joined started using 7sage and feel like I’ve wasted the last month and a half of how I’ve been studying. I used LSATMAX for about a month and during that time, got a 148 diagnostic without a sufficient understanding for really any section.

About 2 weeks later I took another diagnostic and got a 152. I was feeling a little bit more confident on each section (especially LR) and definitely improved, but I still didn’t feel as confident as I should have.

My problem is, I have recently made the switch to 7sage because I just thoroughly don’t enjoy the teaching methods of LSATMAX, and I also have just heard great things about 7sage. So, I guess my question is, should I look at my starting score as a 152? Or should it be more around the 148? I’m only asking because I see frequently that people say most students increase their score by 8-12 points, and with my target score being a 160, knowing what to call my “starting score” will either give me some reassurance that it’s possible, or realizing that it may not be in reach.

I am also just kind of curious on if I should skip over certain lessons on 7sage that I know I have a decent understanding in? Mainly, sufficient and necessary. I drilled this a ton and feel like I know a lot about it (sufficient word indicators and necessary word indicators etc) so I feel like I should dedicate more time to the actual question types.

I am also really concerned with the study schedule. It seems impossible for me at this point in my life to study for 30 hours a week when I am currently still in school. I’ve typically done about 10-15 hours a week, just depending on how much homework I have over the weekends.

Sorry for the lengthy post, just super stressed:(

I have two questions. On the SLS website it says "Please be aware of the high value Stanford places on school-specific letters of recommendation." I take it this is their subtle way of saying "If you don't write an SLS specific LOR we may just throw your app in the trash." Does anyone have experience with this or an alternate explanation?

Second, on the SLS application process page there is no mention of a "Why X" essay at all. Does this mean we should not write a Why X essay for Stanford? On other schools' pages there is mention of a Why X essay but not here. Would it be inappropriate to send a Why X essay? Thanks!!

Hi,

What are the best strategies for high scorers on reading comprehension with the new digital format? On paper with minimal underlining, I was averaging about -3 wrong per RC section. I read the powerscore rc bible a few months ago and generally did not find their viewstamp analysis to be particularly useful. With playing around with the electronic underlining and highlighting features, I think I will just never use them as they are more finicky than useful. I just finished the core curriculum for logic games and logical reasoning, so I will start the reading section of the curriculum now. Does the 7sage cc on reading still apply? Is it worthwhile? What changes with switch to tablet? Any other tips or advice on how to approach the reading comprehension on new format?

Thanks for the help!

Anyone take LSAT at Doubletree Hilton Newark Penn Station or Seton Hall? How was your experience? Thank you

First - thank you 7sage! I ended up getting a 172 on the LSAT, and I know it wouldn't have been possible without the amazing materials on the site. I've been blessed to get into Columbia, BYU, Cornell and Vanderbilt. I'm really torn between Columbia, (because I love NYC and all of the programs at Columbia) and BYU, where I have a full tuition scholarship + $2500 stipend. I've visited both (I did undergrad at BYU actually), and enjoyed both...I just can't decide if I should go for the prestige, or the debt free degree. Advice?

Hey guys, I'm looking to take the June / July test, and I'm unsure how I should distribute my PTs in the months leading up to the test.

I've been very focused on timed drills for the past 2 months to get my accuracy where I want it to be, and started taking full PTs a few weeks ago. I've mainly focused on the late 30s so I can save up the recent PTs, though I have taken two from the 70s to acclimate to the changes that people seem to have noticed.

I realize that I'm not too far away from the test, and I'm starting to think simply working up chronologically might not be a good idea (3 months is clearly not enough time to get every PT in). I'm taking 3-4 PTs a week right now. How do you guys suggest I approach choosing which PTs to take? Should I work on only the odd/evens for every 10 PT?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

P.S. Do you guys find the 30s and the 70s to be vastly different? I'm not picking up on much differences (except RC), but that may be due to the fact that I've only really taken two of the 70s.

Hi Everyone,

I'm planning to write the July 2020 test, looking for study buddies in Toronto! Comment below if you're interested.

I'm starting my drilling for each problem types and trying to reorganize the question bank.

I currently have close to 300 problem sets and they are all over the place. I understand that there is SORT function but I want to keep it minimalistic and the sort function isn't exactly precise. I just want to sort everything by number of questions. since sorting by title or date completed isn't very useful to me.