Hi all! I took the August exam and scored below my avg (got 150 and my PTs were 157-162)I honestly think I was burnt out and felt like I didn’t even know how to read so yeah the exam sucked. I’m currently in my senior year taking some classes with a heavy workload and started to somewhat study very lightly about a week ago for the Nov exam, I’ve taken two PTs and got a 164 and 163! I’m debating if I should move my November exam to Jan or just take both? I’m worried I’m not studying enough but then again I definitely burnt myself out for August, so just looking for some advice! Thanks!!

I am writing the LSAT in November and I just want to say how amazing the 7sage community is. I'm constantly blown away with how much encouragement, support and mutual respect for each other's well being there is on this website. I feel so much more at ease seeing what other 7sagers have to say about their LSAT/applications/overall journey to Law school. What an awesome thing to be a part of. Seriously.

Hello,

I was wondering if proctors are required to give you time back if you disconnect due to problems with your wifi. I had on the last exam and the proctor let me continue, but I'm wondering if it would be possible to get time back if it happens again. Thank you!

Hey guys!

This may be a silly problem to come on here with, I'm applying to Ontario (Canadian) law schools and applications are due November 1. I had a few questions:

I'm a re-applicant so my prof just needs to re-upload her letter, I contacted her last week letting her know I sent her the OLSAS link and she responded so I'm sure she has received it....she has not uploaded it and I'm not sure at what point to send her another email? I don't want to annoy her but I may not be able to contact her over the weekend. Should I just politely nudge her and 'check to see that she got the link'?

Applications are due by November 1st does that mean October 31st by midnight or November 1st by midnight? I don't plan to risk it but it would be helpful to know incase I have any issues with my referee

Applications being due on a weekend won't cause any problems on the system, right? (Okay I know thats a really silly question, they wouldn't make the deadline Nov 1 if weekends were a problem .... but it's just nice to put all my concerns at ease.)

Thanks to anyone who takes the time to read this!

Best of luck!

Is this still a thing today for T-14 schools? I'm intl' btw so I am not looking for scholarship money. But do law schools still practice rolling admissions? Just wondering if applying in Feb puts me at a significant disadvantage!

For drill question 12 on page 49. Wouldn't the valid conclusion be that Sophie is unlikely to be a person to know? As it is unlikely that her moon will stay in Virgo and if her moon doesn't stay in Virgo she will not have a cholesterol increase. I'm sure I am wrong but I am just not getting it.

Hello! For anyone who has taken the flex exam already, can you share how sign up day works & what happens after you receive the link at 12PM. Thanks!

Hi all, this will be my first and last post on 7Sage regarding the LSAT. I am not one for posting blogs, or tweeting, or sharing things like this. But I feel that it may be useful to a person or two, and that is good enough for me. I started originally doing questions a number of months back to see whether I should pursue a career in law, or continue onto the business track with my degrees in Finance and Economics (UGPA: 3.1, nothing special). The questions went well, and I had a decent understanding of what to do in each section (RC, LR, LG), but I wasn't doing these under timed circumstances, so obviously it wasn't extremely difficult, albeit, the tough questions are still very tough, typically. I studied for 3 months on weekdays about an hour a day (likely much less but I am rounding up), and then really crammed on PTs the last couple of weeks leading up to the test. My PTs were mid 150s which then turned to upper 140s in immediate days prior. I was internally panicking a little bit, and even after testing, I didn't feel great about it at all. My score came back a 154 and will be enough to get me into the local law schools that I have had my eye on. Anyways, the point of this is to illustrate to anyone on here that this site is extremely beneficial in any area that you may be struggling on with the test (I was very solid in LG, but always struggled with LR and RC) and can certainly bump your score up plenty. I put in much less time than most seem to put in, and it still was enough for a 4 point bounce between the 2 LSATs that I took in a 3 month span. I'm not posting this to advocate for little study time or minimal effort, but more so to let those out there that may be struggling know that you have a chance, no matter what, and to stay confident! It may be something that clicks that day, it might be an easier test suited for you, or maybe the pressure wears off once that test is actually out in front of you. Whatever the case may be, stay confident! You never know how things will turn out.

I am a little confused because I have been continuously checking the LSAC website to see if there are any updates on the day and time that I will be taking the November Flex Exam. To people who have already taken a Flex Test, when did you find out all the specific details of when you were taking it? We are two weeks away and I figured they would have this information available at this point.

Hi everyone.

I might be a little late to the party with this question but does anyone have a list of conclusion types?

Perhaps even with an example Q to go along with it for reference (if not I am still appreciative).

I came across a NA Q (PT 70.1.13, for those who are interested) and I struggled with this Q until I saw a comment that cleared it all up for me. I don't want to put this person on the spot by publicizing their 7sage username but to quote their comment, " [the] key to answering this conclusion requires identifying what type of conclusion is made. in this question, the conclusion is a comparative statement about the effectiveness of an ad". As soon as I noticed that the conclusion was in fact a comparative statement, I knew what I had to do and the AC I eliminated time and time again became the obvious answer.

That is when I had my 'aha' moment! So then I said to myself we can have a causal conclusion, comparative, one based on a likelihood/probability, cause and effect, etc. "What conclusion types are there and what do I do when I have spotted it" became my train of thought.

Being that the LSAT is a marathon and not a sprint, and with that being said, I am ready to close my LR gap a bit further now. I suspect that being able to identify the type of conclusion made in an argument helps close that LR gap.

Is this something that I missed in the CC?

High LR scorers: do you implement this in your analysis of an argument?

Very interested to hear your comments because I think this is key to what is holding me back in LR.

(I also struggle with RC and I think taking this ultra-sensitive approach might help me as well.)

Thanks 7Sagers!

If I pin a question while doing a problem set, where can find it to revisit it again?

I'm going to be taking my test in NYC at a hotel. Any fellow locals have any suggestions on hotels? I live here so I have no idea about what the best hotel is to take this test :D

Does anyone have any recommendations for how to approach strengthen/ weaken questions - especially weaken questions? I’m actually horrible at them and they’re killing my LR score.

I am trying to get a full ride+ to pursue public interest.

I took the October LSAT and scored low/mid 160s, below my average PT score (170). I’m taking the November test, and planning on getting apps in around the same time as score release.

If I don’t hit my goal score on the November test, would it be reasonable to apply with my 16X, get admissions offers (and likely not enough scholarship), retake in January and - assuming I hit the mark in January - ask for a reconsideration of scholarship based on that score?

Is that common practice? Is it likely to have success? (Or will schools have distributed their scholarship allocations by then?)

Waiting a cycle is not really on the table unless it absolutely has to be - but I’d rather wait than end up w loans or at a school with abysmal employment stats.

I am signed up for the November LSAT Flex. I first studied for this test 2 years ago for about 3 months before having to set it aside for personal reasons. Started back up in May, after graduating from university, and studied for 6 months for 4-6 hours a day 7 days a week. My diagnostic from 2 years ago was a 149.

I've take almost every single PT some of them twice, except for 7 from the 80s that I'm planning on taking before test day. I am consistently scoring at a 169 without fail, I've surpassed 170 on four occasions but it's not consistent. My BR is always around 176. No matter what I try it feels like I can't get my actual score to reach that level.

My goal is a 170+. It feels like I've hit a plateau and its incredibly frustrating. Is it realistic for me to score above 170 on test day? Are there things I can do in my last week or so to increase my chances? Any advice would be greatly appreciated and thank you for taking the time to read this.

Hi everyone! I am very new here but I am feeling the love, so thank you. Long story short, I took the October 2020 Flex and got a 149 (very sad). I am registered and am preparing for the January '21 retake. 7Sage is really making me feeling like I've got a much better handle on the LSAT and I've only been on here for 2 days! My main question is: should I wait for the next admissions cycle ('21-22) to apply? I am definitely looking at a variety of mid-top law schools depending on my next LSAT score and my GPA (3.85). My goal is to obviously get admitted but also to receive scholarships. I am 23 years old and will be graduating with a SPED degree in December with years of experience in the education field, so I definitely have time to refine my application, I just need help weighing the pros and cons! Any advice or personal experience would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so so much and best of luck to everyone!!

Hi! My name is Jamie and I am a private LSAT tutor. I received an 177 on the LSAT and had a consistent -0 in both LG/LR and usually a -2 in RC (from a 10+). I specialize in LR tutoring and have multiple references I can provide. If you are interested and want to know more about prices, message. me!

I wrote my "Why NDLS" which touches on issues such as catholicism, Amy Coney Barrett, and Notre Dame's Religious Liberty Clinic. My professor read my "why x" and advised me to rewrite it as all three of those issues might be too controversial, even for Notre Dame. Does anyone have any thoughts on what I should do? Should I re-write my "why x" and refrain from talking about these subjects or should I not write a "why x" at all. For context, I am applying early decision.

Thanks.

Hello 7Sage!

I finished up my studies for the LSAT recently and I would love to offer my knowledge to those who are looking for support or another person with whom they can talk through questions or issues. I did not get a stellar score on the October LSAT (only a 162), but I regularly BR in the mid-170s. I know the material pretty well, but I just so happened to have issues translating that knowledge to the real thing under timed conditions (despite my PTs at 166 and 170).

I am more than happy to help with LR and LG. I am also available to talk through reading strategies for RC. I have a pretty simple, intuitive approach to the test, and I would love to help others looking to break the 150 or 160 barrier.

I know there are many other free tutors after the October test, but let me know if you are interested. I am happy to meet over Google Meets to go over some questions with you or talk through strategies on how to think about and answer questions.

Cheers!

Sean

EDIT: I’ve been so happy to help others this past week that I’m reopening this post. I am available for others to meet, if interested.

please explainnnn

Been waiting months to write this post.. The journey to this score was longer, more difficult and more much painful than I imagined when I picked up some Kaplan Prep book in mid-2019.

It's taken a couple of days to be able to physically process but I finally scored 171 on an official take!

Took a ~diagnostic (had been studying a little before) and scored a 166.. this was what I would later melodramatically refer to as the 'kiss of death' - it was a total fluke and in no way was this representative of my skills at that point in time...subsequent PTs would prove that I was actually closer to high the 150s to low 160s. In the next month I took around 10 PTs (with no BR and no drilling) and never once was able to hit at or above 166.

Months later, 'I saw the light' and signed up for 7Sage. After completing the CC and doing about a month of drilling LR/RC full sections from the early PTs and full proofing every LG from 1-35, my first PT was a 169. This was my first major victory, which inevitably was followed by what felt like a setback, a 159.

First official take was May and I got a... 166. At the time, my PTs were all over the place (169, 159, 171, 163, 165...) and 166 was actually my prep test average. At the time May was the only flex scheduled and it felt like this Covid thing would be over by now and we'd be back to full length tests so I never put too much stock into this one. I had taken a PT during the interregnum (after I wrote it but before I got my results) and had gotten a 172 (highest yet) which fueled me to push further still.

Going into August my PT average was just above 170. But something happened on LR of that section.. its been commented that the first questions in that LR section were unusually hard and that just got to me; i'm sure that it tanked that LR section and also probably the first part of my next section which was RC.. if it was a 5 section test then I'm confident than another LR would have been able to balance me out to a 168 but alas another 166. What was crushing was looking at an official take that was the same as my diagnostic; even though I knew by this time my diagnostic was inflated - I was frustrated and embarrassed that I "hadn't" made any progress (even though I know I had)...

Anyways, something happened after August and I just started to care so much less. By this point I had not had a PT below 168 since April... I felt assured that I would be able to get above a 166. But then, about a week before October I had two back-to-back PTs where I got a 167... these PT scores felt crushing, it felt like I was slipping at the very second I needed to be at my peak. In some ways this weirdly made me care less... 'caring less' weirdly ended up being the key to doing well on that exam.. anyways felt like I did okay on LR, RC and LG but my couple of low scores before the exam made me second guess... I was hoping for anything above a 168 and was registered for November as well hoping that I could at least increase my score and then to push forward and get out of my slump by the November exam.. but alas it wasn't necessary I got a 171!!!

And yet, I still feel like this post has not adequately captured the ups and downs that have comprised this journey. It wouldn't have been possible without 7Sage and J.Y.! Thank you to everyone who interacted me me on the forums (particularly on my posts where I was asking for help or, oftentimes, just complaining and looking for solace).

Hi everyone,

Do we know for sure that there are issues with inflation for the flex? If so, how would you imagine this would affect admissions?

I am one LSAT point above several target schools’ medians (and slightly below median for GPA). What are my odds given a competitive cycle/inflated lsat scores?

Thanks,

P

How did you guys work on getting better at RC? Any advice would be appreciated. Taking the November LSAT and even a 2-3 point increase in this section would bump me up from mid 160's to high 160's.

Thank you in advance.

Any tips or tricks for improving RC in the last couple of weeks before the test? I’m averaging about a 168 on PTs, and I feel like RC is holding me back from breaking 170. I typically go -0/-1 on LG, -2/-3 on LR, and anywhere from -4 to -8 on RC. I’m able to finish all 4 passages with only a minute or so to spare. Any advice is appreciated!

Also, I would be thrilled with a 168 on the real test, but would like to be more comfortable with RC in case I get a test with a killer RC section (aka the August Flex RC with the bees and patriotism passages).

Are there any major differences between the layout in the actual test and the style represented by the 7sage format? As in, the way the reading comp is shown, the location of the answer choices etc..