What do you think of the LSAT Answer Watch? The website says it's LSAC compliant and it's not a chronograph.

https://lawschooli.com/lsat-watch-what-is-the-best-lsat-analog-watch/#comments

Jy Should invent a course for Florida Bar exam. he's the real MVP. :)

Hello Everyone,

This is my first post on the 7Sage Discussion forum. Just today I signed up for the 7Sage course. I'm posting just to ask for some advice from you all, as many of you seem to have this whole process figured it, while I still feel like an outsider.

I have been studying for the LSAT since last December. At that time, I was only using various LSAT prep books that I had purchased from bookstores and from Amazon. After a couple months of this I came across the heavily populated field of LSAT prep programs. I chose Kaplan Prep because it was a name I was familiar with and thus trusted. I was and still am a full time student working 21hr weeks, so the self-paced online course was really and still is the only option for me. Unfortunately, the Kaplan course just did not click with me at all, I found myself mindlessly watching hours of their videos and never actually doing the LSAT. On test day (June 2018) I still felt like a stranger to the test, unsure of how I was even going to tackle it. I recieved a 151.

I was disheartened by this score but still determined to improve. I knew I could no longer show up on test day feeling unfamiliar with the actual test. I signed up for the September LSAT, but this time around I completely self-studied, apart from watching 7Sage LG explanations on Youtube (LOVED these). So, from July till September all I used to study was the actual test. However, I rarely ever took full-length/proctored PT. Perhaps I felt that I couldn't find the time, or I was just scared of how poorly I was going to do, but I almost only did timed sections in batches of either 1,2, at most 3, at a time. I think I realized that this was not enough to get me to where I wanted to be in terms of my score, but I still felt better knowing that I was doing a lot of these timed sections, getting familiar with the test, better at completing sections on time, identifying questions types and patterns, etc. I felt like my score was going to significantly improve, I got a 152.

Fast forward to today and I am officially a 7Sage student and am extremely happy that I am, but after seeing other's success in this forum this September, I am kicking myself for not enrolling back in July. I'm also registered for the November LSAT. That leaves me with about a month and a half to dive into 7Sage. I am certainly no stranger to the LSAT and have been studying for this test, although using different startegies, for almost a year. My goal since freshman year of college was to get a 170 on the LSAT but it seems that goal is evading me much easier than I ever would've imagined. However, if I could boost my score by 10 points by November I feel I'd have a decent chance at some T25's (3.67 GPA). I have also come to have a different perspective on taking another year to study for the test after reading other similar post on this forum, and wonder if I should give myself another cycle to get closer to that glorious 170 everyone wants. I am still only 21, but the idea of spending an enitire year out of school, working, and studying for one test still seems foreign to me, and my parents...

I apolgize for such a long post, and thank you if you read this far, I just have not gotten the oppurtunity to really talk to anyone about this entire process. I think I am heading in the right direction by signing up for 7Sage and posting here, but besides that I am running out of answers. Thank you for any and all helpful responses/thoughts/comments!!!

Hey 7sagers, advice needed:

I took the LSAT three times already with a 162 high score and a 159 average. I don’t know what happened with my last LSAT; I was practice testing in the mid-160s. But anyway, there’s nothing I can do about that now. My GPA is 3.99.

My dream school is Northwestern (I’m from Chicago). I was planning on applying early decision, but given my low LSAT scores, I doubt I’ll get in. Should I still apply early decision? Or should I apply to a different, lower ranked school early decision? Other schools on my list are Georgetown, George Washington, Boston College, Boston University, U of Illinois, etc.

I am planning on going into public interest immigration law and I know Northwestern has a new Pritzker public interest grant so that might help me in addition to my post-grad experience, but not if admissions only cares about the LSAT score and GPA.

Thoughts? Advice? Also, should I write an addendum for my low LSAT score?

Thanks!!

Hello!

I will be graduating next semester in spring 2019, but I plan to take a year off to really focus on LSAT while working a part time job. Is it okay if I ask professors to write me recommendations for the cycle of 2020? (I will be asking in spring semester 2019 before I graduate)

I am really nervous about this because I do not know who else to ask for recommendation letters when I do apply.

Hey 7Sage community,

I fluctuate between -5 to -12 on RC with little consistency, which really grinds my gears given how much I've tried to improve RC. I've honed in my notation, worked on parsing difficult argument structures in previous RC passages and even in my extracurricular reading, and avoid referencing the passage under timed conditions unless a question specifies a line or word. Can't say it's the science passages that get me specifically, since I usually find them to be the most straight-forward. I'd chalk up my RC pitfalls to two things: (1) I always run out of time -- I'm usually hitting the 30 minute mark when I'm about to start the 4th passage; (2) I find "Most Strongly Supported" questions are the ones that invariably give me the most trouble.

Bearing in mind these two issues, does anyone have any tips and tricks that have helped them improve their RC performance?

Hey everyone! I’ll just get right to it. I took the LSAT Dec 17 (159), Feb 18 (156) and Sep 18 (157). The first time my score came back lower I was crushed but I figured that it was bad luck and I could bounce back. Signed up for 7Sage after that, did the CC, did fresh PTs and I was consistently scoring between 161-165 on my PTs in the weeks leading up to this LSAT. When my score came back, I kind of broke down. I wish I could chalk it up to test anxiety but I don’t normally suffer from it. I have no clue what to do. Would a 4th attempt look bad? Should I even bother to attempt again? I would really appreciate your thoughts.

I'm registered for the November 2018 LSAT and as of now the earliest date I can postpone to is January 2019.. I'm going to apply next cycle so I'm thinking about the September 2019 date. It doesn't look like this option is available yet. I already emailed LSAC about this but anyone know what their reply would be?

Thank in advance.

So, I recently came across a concept some of you are probably familiar with known as "hindsight bias." For our purposes, it probably translates to seeing a question you got wrong and then immediately discounting it thinking it was just a simple mistake that you won't repeat? I am trying my best to have a healthy relationship with it which I believe boils down to simply being honest, after all there's no gain when I am not, especially when I am doing drills or PT'S. Can anyone else relate?

Hi everyone,

I want a rough idea for how long it took some of you guys to complete the core curriculum; logic games section / Reading Comp and practice testing?

Also, Is there anything I can do to improve my focus? Sometimes I do one logic game and feel like I need a break....I want to be mentally stronger so I can sit there and get through more of the CC faster.

Any feedback is appreciated! Thanks everyone in advance.

I scored ~6 points below my PT average so I will retake in November for sure, but right now I have no idea how to get prepared.

I got 156 in Sept. (RC -12; LR-11/-9; LG -1), but I was consistently scoring between 161-163 for the last 10 timed PTs. My average performance for each section is at -6 for LR, -0.4 for LG and -10.9 for RC. With that being said, I am aiming for 166 in Nov...is it possible?

RC is always my weakest section, and I feel I actually made no improvements since cold diagnosis ;-(. Can anyone give me some recommendations for extra reading materials? Reading for scale helped me a little bit, but I am still having trouble with science passages cuz I usually got lost with those professional terminologies.

At this point I don't know if I still need to focus on LG as improving from -1 to -0 probably results in no score increases anyways? And I am considering redo CC for LR but this seems to be a huge amount of work...is it worth the effort to redo CC? Or is there any good supplements for LR?

Any inputs are appreciated!

For those of you who mastered logic games, how long did it take you? I’m considering retaking in November, but I don't know if that's enough time to go from -8 to 0 in LG

Hey all,

I'll keep this short and sweet. I joined 7sage at a point when my PT scores were stalled and I felt very discouraged, like I couldn't make anymore improvements.

After working through the CC, lots of time spent reading through the forums, and writing literally every PT, I got my score back today: a 173.

This is totally life changing, I didn't think it could ever happen. I want to thank JY for becoming the voice inside my head for the last few months and for the care and dedication he put into his invaluable lessons and explanations. Also a huge thank you to the rest of the community for their periodic support and advice.

Seriously, this place is amazing. Thank you. I would (and will) highly recommend this site to anyone considering taking the LSAT.

Hi all,

I got my September mark back and am just so mad at myself. I completely choked after seeing the first RC passage. I stubbornly went through the section in order, completely running out of time and didn’t even get to read the last passage (this has NEVER happened on any of my 20+ PTs). I freaked out at the fact that I choked on the first section and did not get out of that horrible headspace until the 3rd section.

Despite all the choking and the freaking out, I decided well, I paid the money, might as well see what I got wrong. (Also egotistical me was saying ah you may have done ok despite messing up 2 sections)

Aaaaand here we are with the exact same score that I received in June.

I guess that means even when I choked, I still improved somewhat considering despite choking I still got the same as June.

I’m just super down in the dumps and trying to decide between

Any tips? Suggestions? Life wisdom to share?

Thanks for reading this far! :) this group is honestly the best

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I submitted 3 applications yesterday. 2 of them went "complete" on the LSAC page. 1 of them gave me the above alert this morning? However, there is no "detailed information" concerning what the problem is. I'll call LSAC Monday morning, but has anyone else run into this issue?

As an aside, of course it has to be my reach school that I'm having this problem with. Grrrrr.

I just got my scores back from the September lsat and scored eight points below my average PTs. Could this be a fluke? I did have trouble bubbling in my answers on time. Does anyone know if we can request a copy our of exam with the scantron sheet?

Also, I am applying to law school for the Fall of 2018. Would it be too late to apply in November? Do I still have a shot at getting into schools?

My life feels kinda empty and meaningless... I started this whole LSAT life consuming obsession over a year ago and now I have nothing to do but wait for responses. Does this mean I have to re-enter normal life?

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If there is no PDF to review for a particular section on the lsac website for the Sept test, does that mean that was the experimental section?

Hi Guys!

Ive have been a member of the 7Sage community since December. I have been to BR sessions, Webinars, and have done the classes. I got my September score. Using the 7Sage Predictor, I atleast have a decent chance of getting into one of the schools I wanted. 11% for my dream school but hell Ill take what I can get and apply.

I started from a ghastly diagnostic score of 136! and most forums talked about how you can only get up to 10 points. I call BS on that because I am one of the outliers that proved those forums wrong. Albeit Im not the golden-180-unicorn, my point increase is more than 10. So for those worrying about their diagnostic score, take it with a grain of salt. I think as long as you work hard and actually push yourself to improve it is possible to get a decent score. Live and Breathe LSAT (for now). If becoming a badass lawyer is your dream, it will take courage and perseverance to get there. By the words of Mr. Specter, "I believe in work, I dont **** with luck". I still have a long way ahead, but 7Sage videos and the community made the LSAT bearable.

I was wondering what other people feel about their scores? This community has kept my sanity intact, and I want to give back.

What do you guys feel about your September 2018 score? Was it what you expected? What will be your action plan from here on out? Applications, Retake, etc.

Vent or Celebrate down below

Hi!

Looking to hear from those out there (if any?) who don't keep track of their own time (i.e., a watch) while PTing/when you've written the exam? Why do/have you chosen to do so?

I would never use a watch during PTs and it worked fine, but for some odd reason (maybe because I was wearing one? --___- I decided to use my watch during the September exam. Think it knocked the hustle/flow I'm used to and trying to assess if I should stick to just not using it or, switch to using a watch during PTs to become more familiar with it).

Question: is it normal to be missing a couple of questions on each of the comparative and context identification quizzes? Also, when do I move on from the grammar? I feel like I grasp the concepts, but I'm still getting, especially the harder, questions wrong.

Hey 7 Sagers!

I'm not a good test taker - at all. I've consistently scored mid to high160s on my PTs. But when test days rolls around, I am unable to achieve my full potential for whatever reason. For the 4th time, today I found out I scored below a 160. So I now find myself at a crossroad.

I have a 158 on record as my highest score. This is a score that will get me into the schools I am looking at, but I am unsure about how much scholarship money I will receive for this score. I know I am capable of scoring over a 160, but I'm wary of taking the LSAT for a 5th time, especially if I only would gain a few more points.

Should I just go ahead and plow forward with my 158? Should I apply with my 158 and retake, and notify law schools if I have an increase in score? Or, should I start buckling down and go for my 5th attempt and submit applications assuming that score would be my highest?

I've been studying for almost a year now, and am becoming very frustrated with this test. It feels absolutely insane to have taken it so many times. Any advice or input would be greatly appreciated!!!

Hey 7Sagers,

We're posting on behalf of a 7Sager. They would like to get advice from you all!

I have a 3.9 GPA and took the September LSAT. I knew I wasn’t ready because I had only had about 2.5 months to study but I had a lot of people pressuring me to take it and I thought I could convince myself it would be fine.

After studying with 7sage for about two months, I was hitting the mid to low 160s. I just got my score this morning, and got a 152. I am completely devastated and do not know what to do. I feel because my score is so low that law schools won’t even look at me now.

It has always been my dream to go to Harvard because of family legacy and also because I know I can do it with my grades and extracurriculars, but mostly because I want to help the most people possible with law and feel that a compelling education is a key part of that.

I am seeking 7sager’s advice about what to do. I think at this point I should not take the November exam and take a lot more time studying for this exam that I hugely underestimated. I don’t know if I should take another year off because my applications are already going to be late and I regret very much not cancelling my score. I don’t know what to do and am open to any suggestions or resources you have.

is there a CC lesson on LG rule substitution Q's? i think JY mentioned it in one of his LG explanation videos.

thanks.

Hi there. I live in Asia. But as it turns out, I'm travelling to the US in November and I was wondering whether I can take the November LSAT there, even though I'm not a citizen or a resident. I'm guessing it shouldn't matter? Anyone know anything about this?