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@tranduc_1991
i had just one LG section which included the east west game and it was based on games from earlier exams. it wasnt a difficult game at all if one made certain inferences. it was definitely the original LG section.
Yes that game was in the real LG as well.
The projected e-mail score date on my LSAC account shows Oct 12, 2017. This is the first time I have written an LSAT. In anyone's experience, is this an accurate timeline or are the scores given typically earlier/sooner?
At best, the scores will be released only a few days before the projected date. They've been getting released closer and closer to the projected date as of late.
http://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/lsat-score-release-dates-scheduled-vs-actual-comparison
yeah guys, I'm pretty sure talking about specific rules on a game is against the rules and can get people into trouble so stahhpppp
hmmmm, I had 2 LRs and don't think I remember this question
I would bank on it being 1 day earlier at best, based on the past recent tests.
From the power score forums
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Scored Sections
Real Logic Games (not necessarily in order)
Real Reading Comprehension (not necessarily in order)
Real Logical Reasoning
Experimental Sections
Experimental Logic Games
Experimental Reading Comprehension
Experimental Logical Reasoning
Uncertain
Section orders and question counts
LG (exp) - LR - LG - RC - LR
RC (exp) - LR - LG - RC - LR
LR - LG - LR - LG - RC (unsure of exp)
LG: XX questions
LR1: 25 questions
LR2: 26 questions
RC: 27 questions
Total: XXX questions
haha when you had 3 LR and you remember all of the above mentioned LR ?s... ugh..
I had LR(25) LG LR(26) (Break) LR(26) RC.
I had two LR and one LG question. The real section was with the food and the theatre
I had 3 LR sections, and I'm pretty sure section 3 (2nd LR section) was my experimental. To confirm though, does anyone who had 2 LRs remember a strengthen (I think) question about foreign-language films? Something about depending on visual images instead of dialogue in order to appeal to foreign audiences.
Hey, I get thinking that a particular section was harder than others claim (I don't particularly like ppl claiming that this or that section was so easy), but I doubt that this many ppl would have intentions to mislead, let alone intentions that are that petty and malicious (trying to make ppl feel bad about having a hard go of some section).
For the most part, scores are released earlier than the projected date. People typically start going nuts and refreshing LSAC's site each minute about 4 days before the projected date haha.
Yeah, that was definitely from a real section
so what is everyone doing while we wait? especially if you don't work or go to school?
I'm working on my PS and have to submit transcripts.. I'll probably start studying again next week tbh, RC for sure will screw me for this test so might as well start studying again.
I'd suggest not starting to study again immediately. After June I took a month and a half off I think and came back with some of my best PT scores right off the bat. Obviously, do whatever makes you most comfortable but if the reasoning for starting up again so soon is because you'll "lose it" I wouldn't be too worried. The break may prove useful in the lead up to December.
Does anyone else feel like the whole test was a blur? If it was not for this discussion thread, I would not remember a dang thing. I'm reading through these comments and I'm like yea...I guess I remember that? But it all just feels like a dream.
The only thing I remember is that I had 2 RC sections. Regarding the first one, I felt like I didn't perform as well as normally and the second one felt fine. So I made the conscious effort to remember 1 passage topic from each so I can verify which was the experimental section (which turned out to be the first one-- Praise the Lord!). However, if I hadn't done that, I likely would have forgotten everything.
Anyone else experience this?
Does anyone remember a question talking about accountants attending a seminar? It was a number/percentages. I had LR (25) questions, LG, LR (25), LR (26) and then RC (27). Trying to figure out if my first or second LR were real (my first also had the curbing drinking question).
Yeah, I'm a little nervous seeing people say the LGs were so easy. I thought 3 of them were no big deal but I thought the suspects and interrogators one was hard...
I had that one, and my experimental was RC so it must've been real.
oh trust me, I know what I'm doing haha. thanks though, breaks are definitely helpful and I have seen improvement from a clear mind after breaks.
I don't think I'll "lose it", as I know everything about the test (almost 2 yrs studying this stupid test), but from say next week or 2 weeks from now until the December test is not a lot of time at all.
I agree though, a week is too short. I may start again maybe when scores come out, idunno.
Still trying to figure out which of my LRs was experimental. Does anyone know if the one that started with curbing campus drinking was real? Also, does anyone remember a question about cattle in Africa and their sources of water?
I had LR--LG--LR--LR--RC. The first question came from my first LR, the second one from my second LR.
I'm obsessing about the cattle question because, though I finished the section with a couple of minutes to spare, I forgot to review that question (which I felt a bit uncertain about) until there were only like 20 seconds and I ended up guessing between two answer choices. I'd have had plenty of time to figure it out if I hadn't sort of spaced out when I got to the end of the section.
I had the same section order, but I am wondering if I had a different experimental RC than people have been talking about, or if I've just repressed the memory - I don't recall anything about the Louvre or particle physics or anything like that. I'm trying hard to remember...
Same order but don't remember anything about pyramids from the 1st RC. Maybe I blocked it out too... I don't think it was that hard because I had to go to the bathroom during it (KILL me) and I still had time to finish.
I think you are OK - I didn't have this question, my experimental was RC.
I don't remember the accountants attending the seminar (though I may have just forgotten it). Are you saying this one was on the same section as the one with curbing drinking? I did have that one - I believe it was the first question of my first section.
I had experimental LG. LR sections included homophones, beads and gold, peasants and religion, curbing student drinking. Did not have accountants/seminar, or lemurs.
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had exp RC and I did not remember a Madagascar LR question at all.
I thought #3 was hard. This discussion has me a little worried about #2, I thought it was no problem at the time...
I had 3 LRs as well, and in the same order that you did, but I don't remember a cattle question in any of the sections. That section might have been your experimental one. I'm somewhat confident that my second LR section was experimental too
My test progressed in a really interesting way.
Section 1: RC. I totally bombed it. Ridiculously hard. Turns out was the experimental.
Section 2: LR. Hardest LR I can remember.
Section 3: LG. Killed it
Section 4: RC. Killed it
Section 5: LR. Killed it
So I really struggled for the first two sections and, overall, it feels like a really bad test--like I underperformed my average by about 10 points bad. The experimental RC destroyed me and that LR really was hard. By the end of section 2, the test really felt like it was over. But, the S1 RC doesn't count and I did great on everything else which means my score will hinge on S2 LR. LR is my strongest section, and that's really what I want deciding my score. I probably underperformed, but that may mean -3 or something. A high proportion of my low probability questions come through for me in LR. So I don't know what to think. With the experimental, it feels like a mid-high 160's test. But if things fell into place on the hard LR, it could be a mid-high 170's. I feel like I'm in a really extreme range which is a little uncomfortable. I'm meeting myself halfway and calibrating my expectations at about a 170. I guess we'll see in October!
One of my LR sections was really tough as well. My 2nd one was easier, just like it was for you. I'm pretty sure I went like -3 or -4 on the first one though but better on the 2nd one.
I had the same exact experience with the first RC. My first section was the experimental RC and I did awful. They called 5 minutes before I got to the last passage and I was like..."What? That hasn't happened in like 8 PTs..." But I PRAYED that this was the experimental section and gave the other 4 my all (Praise the Lord it was...). I'm nervous though because I can't say with confidence that I did well or poorly on any other section besides LG. Like I don't remember a thing... I'm in the dark completely. I remember that nothing felt super difficult. I remember that it felt different because of the added pressure (and the fact that there were proctors walking around the room...that made it super distracting). Two girls started sobbing in the middle of Section 2-- One of them had to be escorted out and the other was able to compose herself to finish. Also distracting.
I want to say I feel good, but I also felt good after taking PT81 only to find out that the curve brought my score below average and that I missed questions I shouldn't have missed. I feel like I can't even begin to guess how PT82 went.
No, I meant they were in different sections! Okay, guessing that was my experimental then (the accountants) which I guessed because there were some really weird questions in that section.
Most of the comments from people with an experimental LR have been from people who had:
LR(25)-LG-LR(25)-LR(26)-RC
Where they are trying to figure out if their first or second LR was the experimental.
I had:
LR(25)-LG-LR(26)-LR(26)-RC
Is there any consensus on whether the second or third LR (each with 26 questions) is the experimental?
Is LSAC consistent in that when they have a test with the order I had (the two LRs back to back with 26 each) they would have all tests have the experimental be the same section number? Or has it happened in the past where two people will have two 26 question LR sections back to back and some will have the experimental as the first one and others will have the experimental as the second one even though they are identical sections (just switched the order)?
If you're going to discuss the September 2017 LSAT, PLEASE read the rules! I've seen so many broken rules in the past few days.
This is EXACTLY how I feel. I had RC experimental first too! They called 5 minutes before I even began reading the last passage. Started tearing up right then and there. Confidence was shot throughout the entire first part of that exam because of it. I thought the RC was hard, and the LR wasn't very easy either. Games were okay.
But honestly, I hardly remember anything about the exam. After they called the RC experimental so early I was more concerned with timing. I feel like I was moving so fast I hardly remember anything...funny though - I felt like I was moving fast yet I finished with maybe 1 minure or 2 minutes in the bank per section tops.
I'm thinking one week of zero LSAT, trying to get a rough draft of my PS finally finished. Next week I'll probably start doing some intermittent studying to keep the material sharp until scores are released and i can decide if I need to retake in December. My goal is to have all my essays ready for submission by the release, that way if I'm throwing myself back into studying, I dont have to simultaneously write essays, or cram to finish them over the holidays.
Anyone else find the food specials LG hard? It didn't click with me at all, and I would say LG is my strong suit. Did I just completely miss something?
I had 2 RC which was probably the experiment. My LG was harder than usual, which I was disappointed with. Usually the first 1-2 games are a bit easier, but I found them all to be on the more challenging side. Hoping for the best.
For anyone interested in predictions about when grey day will be: http://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/when-will-september-2017-lsat-scores-be-released-our-prediction
OMG You literally took the words right out of my mouth. Throughout both LRs, I felt like I was keeping such good pace- I was expecting to have like 5-10 minutes left. But I finished with like a minute to spare. That literally never happens...which makes me nervous. But at the same time, I can't recall any questions that are serious areas for concern. So I have no idea what to expect.
@"Cant Get Right" Thanks for sharing your experience. Absolutely rooting for you.
I honestly think it was unfair to those who had to take the experimental RC first. Someone at LSAC should run the numbers, and I bet there is a meaningful difference in scores between those who had that experimental and those who did not.
Was the LR section you found difficult 25 or 26 questions?
I am in a total fog about the test. Was extraordinarily nervous opening that first page, but then just blitzed through the first 3 sections (LR-LG-LR), then struggled a bit on the 26 question LR (section 4 for me). I am fairly certain I got 2 particular questions wrong on that section, and probably more.
There was a lot of me being nervous and under confident about an answer, but then convincing myself I had to be right and moving on. I am definitely having plenty of bad thoughts that in the nervous haze I fell for many a trap. The more I think about the test, the more I become convinced I did worse than I thought at the time...
That's what I'm wondering I brute forced it. Idk what it was about that game
@AllezAllez21 You're not the only one who feels that way...I'm definitely second guessing myself right now too. This is going to be a long month...
I had a similar issue on the June test with a very hard experimental LG. At the time, I too posted about the possibility of this messing with people's scores, and therefore undermining the fairness of the test. I wish someone with clout in the LSAT community would make this point; perhaps it would cause LSAC to reconsider their approach to the experimental sections.
It's pretty crazy that LSAC can mess so much the difficulty of a particular section that someone like @"Cant Get Right" , who averages less than -1 on LR can find an LR section to be extremely difficult.
Bombed RC. Had it 4th and literally blacked out. If I got -15 I'll be happy...that bad. Also blacked out on the first LR but bounced back with I believe near perfect 26 question LR and LG.
Beads and gold was a strengthen except question right? And homophones was an NA?