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Down and in the dumps..but hoping for a way back up!Hi everyone! After fluctuations in PT scores (My most recent was a 158, BR 167 after a high of 166, BR 175-yikes!) I've pretty much decided that I…
... keep myself motivated and make sure my head is in the game. There ... go about utilizing my time in the best way possible. I've ... feel comforted by the stories and questions I see in the 7Sage Discussion Forum ... -
(Theory question) Why do you negate a conditional by negating the necessary?Specifically, I am looking at PT 68.S2.Q23, the second sentence: "We must therefore reject Tolstoy's rash claim that if we knew a lot about the event…
... at PT 68.S2.Q23, the second sentence: "We must ... question is a theoretical one, and that is: WHY do ... a conditional by introducing the sufficient and denying the necessary?
2 ... lead to the necessary?
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PT18.S4.Q10 - almost all of the books published in the past 150So I chose B because this is true almost all of the books from the past 150 will gradually destroy themselves. it says in the stimulus that it will s…
... destroy themselves. it says in the stimulus that it will slow ... thought "completely" was too strong and in the stimulus it seemed to me ... put in a cool, dry environment and then it says that the books ... books wouldn't be placed in the cool dry environment. Can ... -
Should I be making adjustments for LR in the 80's?Before entering the PT's in the 80's, I used to blaze through the LR questions and would get -4/-5. Obviously, not perfect but a solid result. But…
... that a lot of the flaws and assumptions in LR in the 80's are ... still the same, but they are ... with more convoluted language, both in the stimulus and in the answers. This has forced ... -
Demorgan Law: HelpJust some Confusion on statement with both "and" and "or" in the stimulus. For example how would I draw a conditional statement with a stimulus like …
... Confusion on statement with both "and" and "or" in the stimulus. For example how ... A or B than C and D" and ho would you negate ... it out, especially while splitting the 'or" in the Sufficient and the "and" in the necessary -
Q. 5 of Quiz on drawing valid conclusions with translation 3In JY's breakdown of this statement: <blockquote>All dinosaurs that hunt its prey can run, swim and fly. Dinosaurs that cannot run, cannot swim or ca…
... Isn't it the case that an "And" in the sufficient should be ... treated as "A and B----->" and an "And" in the necessary ... JY do the opposite? He stacks and separates the sufficient "AND" and makes the necessary "And" linear. -
Conditional / Splitting ArrowsWhich is the lesson where JY explains splitting the arrows when having "and" in the necessary? Need to review it! Thank you .
Which is the lesson where JY explains splitting the arrows when having "and" in the necessary? Need to review it! Thank you . -
Or Both, not BothIf Jays, Martins, or both are in the forest then so are Harriers. If J--> H If M -> H , according to JY we should split when "or" is in the s…
Or in the sufficient - split
And in the sufficient- don't split
And in the necessary-split
Or in the necessary-don't split
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Or Both, not BothIf Jays, Martins, or both are in the forest then so are Harriers. If J--> H If M -> H , according to JY we should split when "or" is in the s…
... in the sufficient - split
And in the sufficient- don't split
And in the necessary-split ...
Or in the necessary-don ... -
Demorgan Law: HelpJust some Confusion on statement with both "and" and "or" in the stimulus. For example how would I draw a conditional statement with a stimulus like …
... and reverse, swap AND and OR)
Again, you can split the OR in the sufficient and the AND in the necessary ...
Split the ... -
bi-conditional with third element in diagramLooking to confirm my thinking on the below. Thanks! https://7sage.com/lesson/or-but-not-both/ From this lesson: Alan or Chris go to the par…
... or | a split negated and in the necessary. That is, neither..nor ... ) a or b | (necessary) not a and not b
There ...
Koalas and Pandas will both not ever be in the "cute enough ... to enter" category. It's a stated fact and ... -
Conditional ReasoningThis might be something really basic to be discussing at this time for someone looking to sit for the LSATs in December, but I gotta ask How would…
... since it's an "and " in the necessary condition. In this case it would be ... ~L -> EW and ~L -> ... ; D, same can be done for the other ... -
Negating an and/or statement clarificationHello 7Sagers! I'm going through the core curriculum a second time, and I have a question about the negation of and/or statements in conditional r…
1) In a statement with "and" in the necessary, each event occurs independent of the other. You ... don't need to contrapose both necessary conditions simultaneously in ... , in the second example, you need to prove that both Justin and Tommy ... -
Question Regarding And + OrHi all! I just have a question regrading And + Or in the SC and NC and what happens when you Satisfy the SC through Valid Argument Form #1 and Deny …
... question regrading And + Or in the SC and NC
Or in the sufficient ... description of and in the necessary condition.
A --> B and C. The contrapositive turns ... into an or in the sufficient conditions ... -
Question Regarding And + OrHi all! I just have a question regrading And + Or in the SC and NC and what happens when you Satisfy the SC through Valid Argument Form #1 and Deny …
... . B and /A
> 3. /A and /B
In the above ... /> /C --> [/A AND /B]
(because AND in the necessary condition can be ... split)
Hope this makes sense and ... -
Necessary and Sufficient Answer Choices in the Same QuestionCan someone point me to LSAT LR q's that are either necessary or sufficient questions types that list BOTH a necessary and sufficient answer choice? …
... types that list BOTH a necessary and sufficient answer choice?
the two but am having a ... time finding the tricky q's that list both in the same question -
Getting mixed up with failing the sufficient and the necessary.Hey everyone, if someone could give me a quick explanation on failing either the sufficient or necessary I would greatly appreciate it. In LSAT Pre…
... the sufficient or necessary I would greatly appreciate it.
In ... the necessary but this mixed me up. If F is on 4 and ... be. When the necessary condition is satisfied through the question stem ( ... as that is what happens in 19 ... -
Or in Sufficient Condition and Necessary ConditionFor example: if N or M is selected, S is out. Since or is in the sufficient condition, N and M are INDEPENDENTLY sufficient for S. So does that …
... /> Since or is in the sufficient condition, N and M are INDEPENDENTLY sufficient ... /> Since or is in the necessary condition, N and M and JOINTLY necessary for S. What ... that mean we need N and M BOTH to be selected ... -
Drill 1~35 LR and RC vs only do the ones not included in the CCHey everyone, I'm not done with the CC, but am just curious and I'm playing around with my calendar... I see that about half of 1~35 LG, LR section…
... not done with the CC, but am just curious and I'm ... LG, LR sections are included in the CC. I have no idea ... drills for all LR, RC and LG after CC.
I ... , but would it be necessary for LR and RC too?
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Anybody else wish you could actually punch the LSAT in the face?Imagine the LSAT would materialize into a physical entity that you could deck clean in the nose. It would run toward you screaming various arguments …
... clean in the nose. It would run toward you screaming various arguments and ... that say Sufficient and Necessary, bedecked in shorts displaying the 7sage logo in a shade ... swinging. Down goes LSAT. Knockout in the 4th. J.Y. is your ... -
Or, Not Both (LR And In-Out Games)Can someone please be so kind to read my notes from the particular lessons listed below? I do not know which definitions are correct. Different lesso…
... read my notes from the particular lessons listed below? ... is selected or both A and B are selected.
... Not both – negate the Necessary, then contropose. In short, 1, A or ... B is selected. A and B are not selected ... is selected or both A and B are selected.
Quick Question Regarding the Necessary-Sufficient FlawHello! I have a very basic question. This is a bit long, but I appreciate anyone who would provide some thoughts on this. Q: If an argument commi…
... /> Q: If an argument commits the necessary, but not sufficient flaw, does ... after I read two examples in the Trainer:
Example 1 ... the same.
I then read this for a bit and ... now think that the two flaws are ...Stuck (largely) in the low-170s over long period of time - focus on PTs and BR-ing or drills?I've been steadily and consistently studying for about two years for the LSAT, and I've managed to score in the low 170s a total of about ten times (…
... years for the LSAT, and I've managed to score in the low 170s ... infrequent though dramatic drops in my score reflect the stupid mistakes I ... getting awfully tired of scoring in the low 170s for a few ... when I was first scoring in the 170s, which was as long ...could we ignore indicators in sentences with both group 3 and group 4 translations?In looking through the combination of conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think I may have hit on a much more simple way to…
... conditional logic lessons on 7Sage and in The LSAT Trainer, I think ... and making it sufficient. However, these indicators actually identify the necessary condition in the ... statement.
The group 4 ...PTs in the 60s (and other newer PTs).....what gives bro? I feel that these are so much harder than earlier ones that I've taken. I'm marking somewhere around 20 questions for BR in <i><…
... for BR in each LR section. Just took PT 66 and I ... I was just reading words and not understanding them.
in the PTs, the harder they get...but ...Improving on PowerScore's "Double Not Arrow"--See Quinn's Improved Improvement in the CommentsThe "/A->B" rule is so important for grouping games that PowerScore uses a special symbol ("A<-|->B", or "the double-not arrow") to note it. As a per…
... when the sufficient term is negative and the necessary term ... and "A->/B."
Note how the slash comes first in the ... "/A->B" situation, but comes second in the ... something must be in your slot. The "\/" looks like ...which practice tests in the 70s should I take between now and the December testwhich practice tests in the 70s should I take between now and the December test? any ideas? will taking about 6 of them be enough before the test? I …
which practice tests in the 70s should I take between now and the December test? any ideas? will taking about 6 of them be enough before the test? I have to take the december test.PT68.S3.Q24 - in the riverview buildingI am not sure why answer choice D in question 68 section 3 of PT 68 is incorrect. Here is an explanation for why I think D can be considered the corr…
... single occurrence of D and not D in the argument without affecting its ... ) The positioning of the premises is irrelevant to the structure of the argument and thus ... necessary condition. I am going to look for parallel of this in the ...where in the CC are strengthening/weakening cause and effect arguments?From BR'ing, I've noted fundamental concepts of of strengthening/weakening cause and effect arguments. For instance, you can strengthen the argument …
... /weakening cause and effect arguments. For instance, you can strengthen the argument ... by saying that in the absence of the cause, we ... is where this was in the curriculum - I watched the videos on causation ...Op-Ed about Harry Potter in the Times!7Sagers, I have an op-ed in the *New York Times* about Harry Potter today! Notice the call-out of an assumption in an argument I'm trying to take …
... I have an op-ed in the *New York Times* about Harry ... you're learning for the test applies in the real world too!< ... they cut, and which rely on the idea of necessary conditions:
in the kind of endings that teenagers ...
