Hi everyone, Just curious how everyone is doing the problem sets. I am reluctant to actually mark up the preptests used for the problem sets as I don't want to ruin them to use as preptests. How are you guys doing this? I can see that it is slowing me down by not writing on them (taking notes & marking the premise and conclusion) because I find myself having to go back and re-read and trying to memorize more instead. How are you guys doing this? Are you making notes on a separate piece of paper or something?

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  • Thursday, Oct 08 2015

    Y'all are crazy... PDFs FTW!

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  • Thursday, Oct 08 2015

    Here you go @2543.hopkins. These were probably first taken over a year ago. Each has been taken 3x as indicated by the"_", "/", or "O". Sometimes I might even use an "." Thanks @7sagestudentservices.

    http://imgur.com/a/iDKub

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  • Thursday, Oct 08 2015

    @tanes25413 msg your email address. I don't know how to upload a pic o here

    http://imgur.com

    Copy the link to the image after to here.

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  • Thursday, Oct 08 2015

    @2543.hopkins msg your email address. I don't know how to upload a pic o here.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    Does anyone mind answering my question in this thread:

    http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/4650/question-regarding-memory-method

    It went unnoticed and I'd like to fully understand the technique :)

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @harrismegan369 At this point, before the December exam, I was thinking of doing 1 timed, 4 passage RC section a day with a BR. In the BR, really identifying where the right answer was in the passage and what tripped me up about picking the incorrect answer. Not only that, but going over the passage to look at the structure/similarities with other passages.

    This seems like a good plan to try. Might I also advise a nice 15-minute guided meditation before each timed section to get centered. I have found that my biggest problem is that my mind is so worried about the next thing I’m about to read that I’m not really present to what I’m actually reading in the moment.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @7sagestudentservices the strike made it look like "skin a eat annoy Dillon A. Wright" and I was just sitting there like... I am probably not tasty.

    LOL LOL

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @2543.hopkins

    skin a cat

    annoy

    @7sagestudentservices

    the strike made it look like "skin a eat annoy Dillon A. Wright" and I was just sitting there like... I am probably not tasty.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    I have a question with respect to improving RC ability.....

    At this point, before the December exam, I was thinking of doing 1 timed, 4 passage RC section a day with a BR. In the BR, really identifying where the right answer was in the passage and what tripped me up about picking the incorrect answer. Not only that, but going over the passage to look at the structure/similarities with other passages.

    Is this a good strategy? I once read someone write that they just did drilling of RC passages over and over again.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @2543.hopkins My preferred method of finding the Q's I used to drill/PS was to get a nice stack of post-its and mark in my 10 Actuals book the Q's for that assignment/set of PS's.

    Can you expand on this? Are you saying you would post a sticky on whatever pages in your books had questions of the same type and then would go back to work through them once you've accumulated multiple questions?

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @leoa1994687 Are there problem sets in the actual curriculum that we can download to also use for drilling, so far I'm not far into it (just enrolled yesterday) and haven't seen any

    Check out your question table under Resources. Probably not for downloading but at least for on-screen access.

    And, again, 10 Actuals books are your friend.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @leoa1994687 Are there problem sets in the actual curriculum that we can download to also use for drilling, so far I'm not far into it (just enrolled yesterday) and haven't seen any

    There are. You're just not to that point in the curriculum yet. You can't miss em!

    @leoa1994687 Would you suggest I purchase the LG, LR & RC bundle packs for tests 1-38 from CambridgeLSAT

    I'm not personally a fan of these as they're EXTREMELY expensive. I advocate purchasing the 10 Actual books and a nice eraser because I finance this whole LSAT study process myself. But if you've got money to burn, by all means, spend it on whatever your heart desires. Cambridge packets are FAR from necessary and, as I said, I personally have no reason to recommend them.

    My preferred method of finding the Q's I used to drill/PS was to get a nice stack of post-its and mark in my 10 Actuals book the Q's for that assignment/set of PS's. I did that for about 7-9 months of study. And I even re-used the Post-its. I went through Mike Kim's drilling schedules for 2 versions of his 16-week study schedules (that's a damn lot of Q's, at least as many as 7sage U+).

    And don't forget to take your diagnostic :D

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @2543.hopkins For drilling, yeah, like, do 4 RC passages in 35 minutes or whatever. You're incorporating timed practice into your drilling. Problem sets are the same thing as drills as far as I'm concerned.

    Two questions:

    Would you suggest I purchase the LG, LR & RC bundle packs for tests 1-38 from CambridgeLSAT so I can begin incorporating problem sets/drilling into my studying?

    Are there problem sets in the actual curriculum that we can download to also use for drilling, so far I'm not far into it (just enrolled yesterday) and haven't seen any

    Thanks.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    Thanks everyone those are great tips & Nicole it's great to know that 36-75 should be safe without having to skip around the syllabus guess I will go back and do my BR on the RC section now then from the problem sets. Also can someone please explain the difference between drilling and doing the problem sets. I'm not sure if I have actually done what you consider drilling yet? I've worked through the syllabus to the end of RC just have to do my BR on that section.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @sheridickson10526 I might start pulling those apart to start using them as part of my experimental 5th section

    Sure!

    @sheridickson10526 I wish the Syllabus here on 7Sage was organized a little differently so that I could have completed those PTs before getting to the sections of the problem sets including those parts of the PTs. I didn't realize it in time.

    You haven't missed out on anything. I'm talking about a pie-in-the-sky ideal situation. I didn't do what I'm recommending and I've done just fine. Don't stress. There are many ways to (s)skin a cat(/s) (s)annoy @7sagestudentservices (/s) master the LSAT.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @tanes25413 Will you post a pic of one of these tests in which you've used this method for "3-4" retakes? Just curious how this looks having retaken it so many times with no erasing.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    Thanks Nicole, I was trying to understand what the difference is between drilling and problem sets. I noticed in the game sections JY seems to be using some of the earlier games that I haven't purchased, so I'm thinking going through that section (unless that changes) should be fine. I haven't used 19-28 except for the RC problem sets & the same with 29-38, I think I still have most of the 50s, and 60s. Holding onto the 70s I have until the last couple of weeks before the LSAT. Since some the 20s & 30s are kind of wasted as I started going the problem sets first I might start pulling those apart to start using them as part of my experimental 5th section. I wish the Syllabus here on 7Sage was organized a little differently so that I could have completed those PTs before getting to the sections of the problem sets including those parts of the PTs. I didn't realize it in time.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @sheridickson10526 I'm just trying to make sure I have new tests that I haven't worked on before so I can get an accurate PT score to know how much further I need to come on improving my score

    7sage doesn't use 36-75 for drilling. I really wouldn't worry about needing to take more tests than 36-75.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @tanes25413 If I'm retaking I'll just go thru and circle all the answers so I don't know which one I initially selected.

    @tanes25413 It's def not as complicated as it sounds.

    ... Sure ...

    You do you, I guess.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @leoa1994687 problem sets/drilling/PT

    These are different things.

    Do NOT take PT's 36-75 until you have finished the curriculum.

    For drilling, yeah, like, do 4 RC passages in 35 minutes or whatever. You're incorporating timed practice into your drilling. Problem sets are the same thing as drills as far as I'm concerned.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @sheridickson10526 just do more timed practice tests

    No.

    Only the sections drill material is taken from. Just like, take that section as a timed section (35 minutes). Just a suggestion. But extra timed practice never hurt anyone.

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    @sheridickson10526 I have another tip/trick for you to think about trying so you can preserve PTs and problem sets for more practice. Buy a pack of 3-M transparency film, its the stuff teachers used to use for the old-school overhead projectors before every classroom came equipped with a laptop hookup and movie screen. The only downside is that you might not be able to write on them with pencil BUT I know Post-Its makes transparent sticky notes in different sizes and some are almost the same size as 8.5x11 printer paper. Those aren't glossy and you can write on them with anything! (They're also great for taking notes/highlighting textbooks for classes and you can get a lot more money when you sell the book back at the end of the semester) P.S. props to you for thinking ahead, preserving PTs didn't cross my mind until 2 weeks before D-Day and by then I was pretty much done haha

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    Thanks for the tips, but I guess now I'm just trying to make sure I have new tests that I haven't worked on before so I can get an accurate PT score to know how much further I need to come on improving my score. I'm thinking the only way of doing this is to hold off on any 7Sage section that requires use of the LSAT tests for example the problem sets. Is this what you guys would recommend?

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    That's what I do as well @christinadavidesko205.davidesko. All of my slashes, circles, etc. on PT were before I purchased a laser printer. Best thing since White Rain LOL

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  • Wednesday, Oct 07 2015

    I don't know if this will help. But I continue to make photocopies. I have a binder. It has one clean version on the PT so I will also have one then I makes copies of the test when I time, when I BR, and when I review sections. I put those versions in the binder behind the clean version and then I make note to see which one I always get wrong and which one I improved on.

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