i find this to be absolutely useless. i read the statement. i automatically translate it for myself as "if keeping pet, then it serves medical purpose." that's diagrammed as Pet->MedP. and thats it
This just feels like an overexplanation of the negation lessons. Why not just take the rule and the exception as an exclusion conjunction and apply the flip/ negate strategy? Is there a reason this shouldn't be the most obvious solution? I got the same results as the video using this strategy... why do I need more options that are just gonna cloud my intuition?
this is frustrating and a time waster: a simply explanation as to WHY the Exception is needed above the usual group 3 method would greatly simplify thingsl Pilling on new methods without a rationale is a time waster when time is precious. Here's a rule: if it's taught -- explain why we should invest hours or days into learning it.
@Gabi During the exam, you will come across a lot of complex biconditionals/ embedded conditionals. esp with a time crunch, it all comes down to understanding which side of the arrow clauses actually go on, and how each conditional relates to one another! Trust. It also facilitates intuitive understanding, translating complex ideas into simpler logic/ finding their logical equivalence with ease
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i find this to be absolutely useless. i read the statement. i automatically translate it for myself as "if keeping pet, then it serves medical purpose." that's diagrammed as Pet->MedP. and thats it
As long as we identify the rule and the exception we are okay, right?
I’m very confused,,, so what is the exact definition of embedded conditionals. Also can we use either of the three ways to analyze a statements ?
framework 1 seems to be the same as framework 3
In the Domain framework can I use being a resident as the domain? So it'd look like this.
Domain: Resident of the Beresford
Rule 1: /purpose -> prohibited
Rule 2: /prohibited -> purpose
We still wouldn't know what happens if the purpose condition is satisfied.
This will make so much sense later. Bookmark this lesson and come back to it later.
I am 5 months in, and this is only now finally clicking after many wrong questions and countless classes with 7sage's AMAZING teachers.
Overstimulated
im so confused when it is appropriate to use each of these methods?
Any study groups ?
@MaryGraceForever lets make one! I badly need one especially after todays lessons .. I feel so lost
@LindaLopez I'm interested!
@MaryGraceForever let me know!
This one actually made sense to me.. after watching it twice. The one before it didn't
dude.....what
The more these things are explained, the more confused I get
This just feels like an overexplanation of the negation lessons. Why not just take the rule and the exception as an exclusion conjunction and apply the flip/ negate strategy? Is there a reason this shouldn't be the most obvious solution? I got the same results as the video using this strategy... why do I need more options that are just gonna cloud my intuition?
How could this section be given a length of 3 minutes in the study plan if the video in it is more than 9 minutes long?
i feel like this might be overcomplicating something intuitive? or maybe i'm really not understanding?
@jmcconnell1 I feel the exact same way. Maybe we our opinion will change when we get some difficult questions.
@Wallen Agree, I think I’ll understand more when I see this stuff in context of questions?
can't you just say
For Beresford residents:
Pet allowed -> Medical purpose
or
~Medical purpose -> ~pet allowed
I feel like all the approaches over complicate this issue if you can just translate using the original negate sufficient rules from earlier
2nd Framework is the same as the example from embedded conditionals, no? They are logically equivalent?
this is frustrating and a time waster: a simply explanation as to WHY the Exception is needed above the usual group 3 method would greatly simplify thingsl Pilling on new methods without a rationale is a time waster when time is precious. Here's a rule: if it's taught -- explain why we should invest hours or days into learning it.
I honestly feel the first one makes the more sense to me. I think they provide three different types of frameworks bc everyone's brain is different.
I'm just confused on how this will actually help during the test
@Gabi During the exam, you will come across a lot of complex biconditionals/ embedded conditionals. esp with a time crunch, it all comes down to understanding which side of the arrow clauses actually go on, and how each conditional relates to one another! Trust. It also facilitates intuitive understanding, translating complex ideas into simpler logic/ finding their logical equivalence with ease
My brain just don’t want to comprehend the 2nd one
I’m confused so when we have an unless statement we don’t use the group 3 rule, so how do we know when and when not to use it?
/prohibited --> medical purpose
/medical purpose --> prohibited
can it be represented as such?
@lsatjasg Yes since it's just the contrapositive. Not prohibited then serves a medical purpose. Doesn't serve a medical purpose then prohibited.
I'll just learn the first...
yeah idk lol