Hey fellow 7sagers : )
I am seeing a lot of posts about people knowing they are not ready for the test but still taking it or realizing by answering their LSAT questions that they do not yet have a good grasp on fundamentals but are still taking the test. So if your average score of past 3-5 correctly timed stimulated practice test is not within plus or minus 5 of your ideal score. This post is for you.
A little background: I was once where you are, not ready for the test, but I was registered. I had already paid the $180 ( or whatever the exorbitant amount they charge us) and quite frankly refused to let my hard earned money go to waste. I mean, $180 is a lot of money! I was determined to at least get "something" out of that money I had already given to LSAC. I reasoned I could get some real time practice about how LSAT really was and somehow that would help me when I was finally able to take the test having studied to my full potential, at a later date of course. But then some "mentors" descended out of nowhere and helped me see where I was going wrong and I hope I can do the same for you and return that favor. So below I have listed five reasons you should not take LSAT this coming Saturday.
Why you should ditch LSAT this weekend :)
#1) Learning from other people who have taken the test before they were ready: It's more effective to learn from other people who have done something similar than to do the same thing and expect different results. When I have asked people who have taken this test before they were ready none of them have yet said to me "That was such an invaluable experience!". On the contrary I mostly hear regrets. I often hear "I wished someone had told me not to take the test. I just wasted my takes. Even though I am now ready, my real lsat score ended up being slightly below what I was scoring on my practice and I wish I had more takes left." You literally just have to ask around to see the regrets in people who took the test before they were ready to know that this idea of using a real take as a practice test is nothing compared to the value of having a few takes left and scoring your ideal score and getting into your dream college. Some people need to take it twice or thrice to just score within their practice range. So please err on the side of caution and give yourself that opportunity.
#2) Don't give your application a weakness it doesn't have yet: When you get down to submitting your applications, which one of us really wants to write about why one of our LSAT score was low?
#3) $180 is actually not a lot of money: Okay It's a lot of money if you think in terms of how most of us have to pinch money so we can work as few hours as possible and study for LSAT as much as we can. But If you take a look at the financial impact a good college can have on our lives, that $180 doesn't seem to be worth it to fuss over.The current lawyer I work for went to T20 law school and can make that much in less than half an hour, and this isn't even big law. So although that $180 seems a lot right now, the opportunities that can come from getting into a top college and having an amazing application which cannot happen without an LSAT score, is worth to lose that $180 now. Lets not throw good money after bad.
#4) That practice we all want to get this Saturday can be achieved in a library with JY's recorded voice as the proctor: is it exactly the same as real time? No. But if you adhere to it and don't cheat yourself, there is not much difference between a real proctored test and JY proctored test. Could bad things happen during the real thing? Yes. But you could prepare yourself for that too by taking it in places where its hard to take the test. The point being you can stimulate real test day, apart from unseen circumstances, pretty accurately. So don't use a real take for practice; use practice test for practice, and real test for when you are really ready.
#5) Maybe I can score a 170 on the real test?!!!!:(/i(/u)> I call this the "I am the Exception" feeling and I think this is actually a big one. Despite the evidence in front of us where our practice scores and our dream scores just do not match, somehow we get convinced we might get that 170 or who knows even that 180 if we just take this test. I think this happens because all us are actually very good students, who get mostly A's, or know we are smart because even when we didn't work hard we still managed to get that high grade. We have by now mastered the art of cramming the day before the test; surely if in college studying the night before could get me A+, I can study this week before the test and beat everybody just like I used to. While it might have worked in college, I am here to tell you sadly LSAT is different. Unlike cramming, LSAT requires us to develop good and efficient habits. It's not something we score on the test day, but something we have already scored in our practice test.
*So unless you actually attended Hogwarts and know some spells to ace this LSAT in a different way, I recommend using your practice test as a guide to know when you are ready. After all, is PT 80 going to be so different from PT 75-79 that your score will jump tremendously? Probably not. Maybe a little if you are lucky like some ( I have yet to hear a more than 5 point jump), but not by a lot.
#6) Confidence: ( I know I said five reasons but its actually six. Five just made for a better Title of the post ;) ) I know from taking enough PT's that confidence can play a big role into the score I am going to get. The more confident I am, the faster I will end up going through questions and finish everything on time. But the funny thing about confidence is that it has to come from ability. If you are not yet able to answer questions correctly and fast, you are either going to be over confident in which you will answer things incorrectly or you are going to be under confident and stressed, and you will also end up answering things incorrectly. Confidence in LSAT is great when it comes from acquired ability, it doesn't work the other way around and it can definitely hinder you if you are not confident because you know you are not ready.
I know this is not the news most of us want to hear, especially when we are registered to take the test in a few days. But I hope this gives you at least a few points to consider. The rest is up to you of course. Good luck in whatever direction you end up going. Much much love.
I would like to add an inspiring story for people who don't want to wait till the next application cycle to take the test:
I once met a Dentist who told me that he waited three years to get into UC San Francisco, which is the #1 Dental School in United States. During those three years he faced constant doubt from himself because of how hard it was for him to score high on that test and the pressure from his family who thought he was just wasting time. But he didn't budge. And now that he has graduated from the top Dental school and makes a lot of money, no one remembers that time. His family doesn't and he certainly doesn't. He is very happy he made that decision and gave himself the best opportunity he could to succeed and he has succeeded.
I wish only success and the best for all of you. Good luck <3
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You made some great points here Sami! I decided to postpone the Dec test and it's one of the best decisions I've made. Thanks for listing out reasons why it isn't wise to rush into taking the LSAT:)
All great points! I've ditched 4 administrations and wasted a ton of money in the process. But zero takes! haha
But please do this:
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Lol, LSAC appreciates your kind donations. It will be worth it though!
After much debate within myself, I finally made one of the hardest decisions I can possibly remember... I canceled my December sit. Canceling my December sit means having to take a year off after I graduate in the upcoming Spring, something I told myself I'd never do, but here I am. Although I'm a perfectionist who can't bear to come to terms with the current harsh reality, I'm starting to accept that it's okay to know that I'm not fully prepared at the moment because I know for a fact I'm not hitting anywhere near my LSAT potential. Thank you for the encouraging words, @bjphillips5431 . On the road to a 180!
@bjphillips5431 Love this post! Ditch the LSAT! I actually was finally able to officially withdraw yesterday. I had registered for the December LSAT in July when I began 7Sage....
@bjphillips5431 , where were you this time last year, lol? I did all of these things wrong. Horrible mistake. Wish you'd been there to talk me down.
Telling people not to do the things I did is probably my most important contribution here, lol!
Everyone's ideal score is going to be arrived at differently. It may depend on the score you need for a particular school, or it may just be that you want to maximize your potential. As far as how to know if you can improve or not, that's just a matter of honest self reflection. Sometimes this is easy, like for people who are just finishing the curriculum and realize they've only had time to take a single PT. Sometimes though, it's just a matter of not being satisfied with where you're at. I think determining how you're going to improve is a big aspect of the decision in this case. If you've been studying for a long time, then you need to be able to answer how you expect to do better between now and a future test date. This will be different for everyone, but I think common answers to that are incorporating higher level study strategies and employing better self discipline.
@bjphillips5431 - Great Post!!
For all the people that I have personally discussed their circumstances and ultimate decision to withdraw due to recognition of not being fully prepared -
No one has ever said "I regret withdrawing"
With most people I know achieving or more often exceeding their desired score band once they were prepared to take the test:)
> @71888 said:
> All great points! I've ditched 4 administrations and wasted a ton of money in the process. But zero takes! haha
And LSAC thanks you for all your charitable contributions. You should be on their donor list or something.
Yeah, they gave me two free takes. Now I'm not registering until I am confident I will be ready. Hoping for next June :)
For anyone deciding to postpone...
Make sure to check out the June BR Study Group!
They have been invaluable to me during my PT phase providing interactive study sessions and a family of friends that I cherish:)
https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/9475/new-june-2017-study-br-group
Bump this for coming administrations. Worth a read.
@ashleeesherman327 I know precisely how you feel. I felt like I needed to vomit when I decided to withdraw just this past Monday. As we study for this bedamndable test, if the LSAT teaches us anything, it proves we're resourceful and resilient.
After much good advice from the good folks here (and deliberation with family), I knew it was the right decision to withdraw because even though I made good progress in the one month joining 7Sage (Nov 1), coming from a program that I'd been doing for several months (which turned out to be utterly useless), I admitted to myself that I was nowhere near ready because of the catching up I needed to do.
Not being fully ready does far more harm than good.
As JY and the fine Sages and Mentors put it: turn a negative into a positive. We are going to CRUSH the LSAT when we are fully ready to sit for it!! <3
I withdrew my application for these same reasons, though I felt really disappointed. I hate that I wasted a ton of money and time with another course that gave me barely any improvement.. but I am glad I know about 7sage now.
This better be none of you guys taking this Saturday:
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Don't even think about doing this either:
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This will be the second testing I have paid for but will not take. Feel better knowing others are in a similar situation.
Sami, this was wonderfully worded and stated. There's just so much wisdom in this post and I appreciate you taking the time to write it.
My story is similar to everyone's on this post and I too made the decision to postpone after withdrawing twice (September and this December). I realized it doesn't make me dumb or less smart but I'm focused on the bigger goal- aiming for the best possible score I can get. So when compared with how it could turn out for me in the future, taking a year off is a sacrifice I'm willing to make. Thanks again Sami you are awesome!!
Yes!
thanks @twssmith644 , lol @bjphillips5431
I once met a Dentist who told me that he waited three years to get into UC San Francisco, which is the #1 Dental School in United States. During those three years he faced constant doubt from himself because of how hard it was for him to score high on that test and the pressure from his family who thought he was just wasting time. But he didn't budge. And now that he has graduated from the top Dental school and makes a lot of money, no one remembers that time. His family doesn't and he certainly doesn't. He is very happy he made that decision and gave himself the best opportunity he could to succeed and he has succeeded.
LOVE this. Absolutely LOVE this.
@bjphillips5431 , thank you for this post. Thank you for today. <3 Thanks to all, for your advice and input. I now know why you're all called Sages. <3
I just withdrew my sit for this weekend. I admitted to myself that I'm not anywhere near ready and shouldn't throw myself under the bus by sitting for it sooner than I'm ready.
I'm coming for you, LSAT. Soon, Precious.
Oops, just saw this haha. But good added point on the deadline to withdraw.
Fantastic post @bjphillips5431 !
*Bump* relevant to Feb test takers