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Just beginning my fool-proofing process and I'm curious to know what everyone has done/ is doing! Debating between going in order from the different games I come across (for ex: simple sequencing examples then the problem sets then sequencing w/ a twist it's examples then its problem sets etc) or jumping around wherever I feel like.
Good luck to those testing next week!
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@tristandesinor505 here’s a link to> @tristandesinor505 said:
@tristandesinor505 , I’ve been using the sheet protector for past few days. It is WONDERFUL!!!!
Glad to hear it!
Guys I just wanted to say this was my third time doing PT 1 timed
1st time (under flexible time constraints) to try to figure it out on my own
2nd try after the explanation and stop watch timed aiming under 35 mins
3rd try: after 2nd time watching explanation and aiming under 35 mins
I MASTERED THIS PT SET OF GAMES I'M SO HAPPY :') (3 I almost cried out of frustration trying to wrap my head around the rules in game 4 (the ticket game) I'm so proud!!!(/p)
@btate87833 said:
@ashleighkong22327 said:
Do you find that now when you try other sections from newer LG sections it's a breeze for you since you've seen similar game types before??
Yes! It definitely helps. Some games I have to double check and be like....wait haven't I seen this before?! There are still some games that give me trouble, though. Like I will read a rule wrong or something silly like that. There is always room for improvement!
Before I started fool-proofing, I was sort of fool-proofing the practice sets and honestly, even after the 2nd time you begin to catch on. I'm going on vacation so I was a bit worried about whether or not I could fool-proof in time before September.
Sounds like you totally have this in the bag! You'll have plenty of time and are already off Tina great start!
Yesss that happens to me too! When I know I'm under a time constraint I get anxious and rush through in case I become short on time and that always is a mistake. The worst part is listening to the explanations and messing up ONE rule which completely screws me over :( Thank you for the encouragement!
@ashleighkong22327 said:
Do you find that now when you try other sections from newer LG sections it's a breeze for you since you've seen similar game types before??
Yes! It definitely helps. Some games I have to double check and be like....wait haven't I seen this before?! There are still some games that give me trouble, though. Like I will read a rule wrong or something silly like that. There is always room for improvement!
Before I started fool-proofing, I was sort of fool-proofing the practice sets and honestly, even after the 2nd time you begin to catch on. I'm going on vacation so I was a bit worried about whether or not I could fool-proof in time before September.
Sounds like you totally have this in the bag! You'll have plenty of time and are already off Tina great start!
@tristandesinor505 , I’ve been using the sheet protector for past few days. It is WONDERFUL!!!!
@btate87833 said:
@ashleighkong22327 here you go! https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2737/logic-games-attack-strategy/p1
Took me maybe 2 mos?
Honestly, it's pretty life-changing. You seem to be in a much better spot than when I started. I HATED logic games. I used to be -12 or -14, but I am now consistently at a -1 or -2 on fresh games. Yesterday was my first -0...ever.
Omg that's amazing!! (3 That's my goal to hit -0 in LG! IMO, LG is the easiest section to improve and honestly, it's really not that hard once you get the hang of it. Do you find that now when you try other sections from newer LG sections it's a breeze for you since you've seen similar game types before??
Before I started fool-proofing, I was sort of fool-proofing the practice sets and honestly, even after the 2nd time you begin to catch on. I'm going on vacation so I was a bit worried about whether or not I could fool-proof in time before September.(/p)
@ashleighkong22327 here you go! https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2737/logic-games-attack-strategy/p1
Took me maybe 2 mos?
Honestly, it's pretty life-changing. You seem to be in a much better spot than when I started. I HATED logic games. I used to be -12 or -14, but I am now consistently at a -1 or -2 on fresh games. Yesterday was my first -0...ever.
@btate87833 said:
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@btate87833 said:
I did the Pacifico method, which was a godsend.
The biggest piece of advice I can give you is to be organized. Every day I knew what game I needed to do. I knew my times and previous scores. This kept me on schedule. Once I finished FPing 1-35, I moved on to taking LG sections. This was incredibly helpful for my timing. Highly recommend sections when you finish fool proofing.
Thanks! I'm having a bit of trouble deciding what to do with these problem sets. Do you recommend doing them after I fool-proof or while I fool-proof? I don't want to over do it but I also don't want to neglect the problem sets at the end of each lesson.
I'd do them as you finish each lesson. Then once you finished the CC, do the infamous Pacifico method. Sounds like you're in a good place and thinking ahead!
Ahh thank you! (3 I didn't want to overdo it since fool-proofing requires you to already go through 1-35. I've never heard of the Pacifico method, I'll look into it!
How long did it take you to go through them? I honestly find that the games eventually get to be fun?? LOL. It reminds me of a putting together a puzzle and once you figure out how to do it the first time, you can do it again faster and then the third time it seems like a piece of cake.(/p)
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@btate87833 said:
I did the Pacifico method, which was a godsend.
The biggest piece of advice I can give you is to be organized. Every day I knew what game I needed to do. I knew my times and previous scores. This kept me on schedule. Once I finished FPing 1-35, I moved on to taking LG sections. This was incredibly helpful for my timing. Highly recommend sections when you finish fool proofing.
Thanks! I'm having a bit of trouble deciding what to do with these problem sets. Do you recommend doing them after I fool-proof or while I fool-proof? I don't want to over do it but I also don't want to neglect the problem sets at the end of each lesson.
I'd do them as you finish each lesson. Then once you finished the CC, do the infamous Pacifico method. Sounds like you're in a good place and thinking ahead!
@tristandesinor505 said:
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
Isn't it crazy how fast time passes?! Yesterday I was on the In/Out lesson from 10:30am-6:00pm because I realized I was hungry and never ate LOL. How do you like studying in a noisy environment? Do you usually do your PTs there or just drilling/ foolproofing/ lessons? I want to try to change my study environments to test how well I can concentrate with various distractions.
I have beats headphones and just turn on a fan noise from you tube so I dont hear anything. I actually prefer to be in a populated area because it keeps me more focused ... dont know what that's about lol. I finished the CC a while ago and am foolproofing LG only. It's taking forever because I work full time so only have a few hours to study each night.
Lol that's good though! It really depends on my mood. If I'm in a grind mode I could do that but if it's a chill mood I have to be in a quiet area. And the good thing about that though is that fool-proofing isn't as intense in my opinion as the LR sections. I would find myself on one lessons for at least a few hours. Btw, what did you do with the problem sets at the end of the sections? Did you do them while you were fool-proofing or after you completed the fool-proofing process as drilling sessions?
@btate87833 said:
I did the Pacifico method, which was a godsend.
The biggest piece of advice I can give you is to be organized. Every day I knew what game I needed to do. I knew my times and previous scores. This kept me on schedule. Once I finished FPing 1-35, I moved on to taking LG sections. This was incredibly helpful for my timing. Highly recommend sections when you finish fool proofing.
Thanks! I'm having a bit of trouble deciding what to do with these problem sets. Do you recommend doing them after I fool-proof or while I fool-proof? I don't want to over do it but I also don't want to neglect the problem sets at the end of each lesson.
I did the Pacifico method, which was a godsend.
The biggest piece of advice I can give you is to be organized. Every day I knew what game I needed to do. I knew my times and previous scores. This kept me on schedule. Once I finished FPing 1-35, I moved on to taking LG sections. This was incredibly helpful for my timing. Highly recommend sections when you finish fool proofing.
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
Isn't it crazy how fast time passes?! Yesterday I was on the In/Out lesson from 10:30am-6:00pm because I realized I was hungry and never ate LOL. How do you like studying in a noisy environment? Do you usually do your PTs there or just drilling/ foolproofing/ lessons? I want to try to change my study environments to test how well I can concentrate with various distractions.
I have beats headphones and just turn on a fan noise from you tube so I dont hear anything. I actually prefer to be in a populated area because it keeps me more focused ... dont know what that's about lol. I finished the CC a while ago and am foolproofing LG only. It's taking forever because I work full time so only have a few hours to study each night.
Depends on how well you can hold information/tricks to pick up inferences. I personally constantly need to be doing games at random to keep myself on my toes. For instance, easier games are just as important to perfect as are harder games (after all, all questions are worth the same amount). If you only practice harder games, it is not completely uncommon to get tripped up on easier games. When it comes to logic games, a well rounded grasp is needed. I've been steadily fool proofing for about 3 months and have reached the point where I actually love logic games lol getting there is totally possible just have to push through the initial awfulness of it first. Good luck !!
@tristandesinor505 said:
@tristandesinor505
I am only a tad bit into the 1-35 bundle, my wife and I moved on a whim during my prime post CC period, but what I find helpful that I actually used a lot while teaching is sheet protectors.
I put the game in the sheet protector and write on it with a fine tip expo marker. This allows me to erase the board when I’m done, but still have the same piece of paper. I used to use this method a lot when I did stations in my classroom, to save time at the copy machine and paper. Obviously it stinks not using a pencil, but for me my fool proofing is not about real testing conditions but truly mastering the games presented to me. It also allows me to not have to carry copious amounts of paper with me wherever I amamos rushing nor have a pile of games on my desk.
I also normally have two sheet protectors out side by side so I am not flipping one over constantly or taking a picture of my main game board to reference back too. I hope this helps you, it’s been a tree saver and a life saver for me.
I was considering doing this but I was hesitant because of the whole not using a pencil thing. But since you've addressed this concern and state that it doesn't hinder your ability to master the games, I'll move forward with it! Good to hear you progressed while saving paper AND ink :)
@tristandesinor505 said:
@tristandesinor505
I am only a tad bit into the 1-35 bundle, my wife and I moved on a whim during my prime post CC period, but what I find helpful that I actually used a lot while teaching is sheet protectors.
I put the game in the sheet protector and write on it with a fine tip expo marker. This allows me to erase the board when I’m done, but still have the same piece of paper. I used to use this method a lot when I did stations in my classroom, to save time at the copy machine and paper. Obviously it stinks not using a pencil, but for me my fool proofing is not about real testing conditions but truly mastering the games presented to me. It also allows me to not have to carry copious amounts of paper with me wherever I amamos rushing nor have a pile of games on my desk.
I also normally have two sheet protectors out side by side so I am not flipping one over constantly or taking a picture of my main game board to reference back too. I hope this helps you, it’s been a tree saver and a life saver for me.
Good. God. Jesus. Almighty. Christ. Brain. Orgasm.
THANK. YOU.
@tristandesinor505
I am only a tad bit into the 1-35 bundle, my wife and I moved on a whim during my prime post CC period, but what I find helpful that I actually used a lot while teaching is sheet protectors.
I put the game in the sheet protector and write on it with a fine tip expo marker. This allows me to erase the board when I’m done, but still have the same piece of paper. I used to use this method a lot when I did stations in my classroom, to save time at the copy machine and paper. Obviously it stinks not using a pencil, but for me my fool proofing is not about real testing conditions but truly mastering the games presented to me. It also allows me to not have to carry copious amounts of paper with me wherever I amamos rushing nor have a pile of games on my desk.
I also normally have two sheet protectors out side by side so I am not flipping one over constantly or taking a picture of my main game board to reference back too. I hope this helps you, it’s been a tree saver and a life saver for me.
@jkjohnson1991823 said:
@ashleighkong22327 thank you so much.
No problem! Lucky you, you have Ultimate + so it won't be a problem for you! I have to type them out so I don't get to know which type they are unless I make note of it :(
Good luck!
@ashleighkong22327 thank you so much.
@tristandesinor505 said:
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
I'm going in order with each individual game. I feel like if I did a group of a bunch at one time I'd master those but then after doing a bunch of another I'd forget the tricks in the types I just mastered. I plan on going back and doing a bunch of whichever I have the most problem with after I finish all in the sequence if I need to.
Yeah that's what I originally wanted to do but I felt the same way. If I went from doing a sequencing game to an in/out or whatever the case is, I'd definitely forget and set myself back. I think this is the best way to absorb everything in the fool-proof process. Good luck :)
You too! isnt foolproofing just the best! --__--
I love it! Best way to spend my summer! I just BRed a LR section since I've sort of neglected it once I completed that section of the CC. Man is it draining :(
SO DRAINING lol ... thats the best word to describe it. I"m currently sitting in a coffee shop after 9 hours of work about to start my next LG game. Lawd help me....
Isn't it crazy how fast time passes?! Yesterday I was on the In/Out lesson from 10:30am-6:00pm because I realized I was hungry and never ate LOL. How do you like studying in a noisy environment? Do you usually do your PTs there or just drilling/ foolproofing/ lessons? I want to try to change my study environments to test how well I can concentrate with various distractions.
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
I'm going in order with each individual game. I feel like if I did a group of a bunch at one time I'd master those but then after doing a bunch of another I'd forget the tricks in the types I just mastered. I plan on going back and doing a bunch of whichever I have the most problem with after I finish all in the sequence if I need to.
Yeah that's what I originally wanted to do but I felt the same way. If I went from doing a sequencing game to an in/out or whatever the case is, I'd definitely forget and set myself back. I think this is the best way to absorb everything in the fool-proof process. Good luck :)
You too! isnt foolproofing just the best! --__--
I love it! Best way to spend my summer! I just BRed a LR section since I've sort of neglected it once I completed that section of the CC. Man is it draining :(
SO DRAINING lol ... thats the best word to describe it. I"m currently sitting in a coffee shop after 9 hours of work about to start my next LG game. Lawd help me....
@tristandesinor505 said:
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
I'm going in order with each individual game. I feel like if I did a group of a bunch at one time I'd master those but then after doing a bunch of another I'd forget the tricks in the types I just mastered. I plan on going back and doing a bunch of whichever I have the most problem with after I finish all in the sequence if I need to.
Yeah that's what I originally wanted to do but I felt the same way. If I went from doing a sequencing game to an in/out or whatever the case is, I'd definitely forget and set myself back. I think this is the best way to absorb everything in the fool-proof process. Good luck :)
You too! isnt foolproofing just the best! --__--
I love it! Best way to spend my summer! I just BRed a LR section since I've sort of neglected it once I completed that section of the CC. Man is it draining :(
@ashleighkong22327 said:
@tristandesinor505 said:
I'm going in order with each individual game. I feel like if I did a group of a bunch at one time I'd master those but then after doing a bunch of another I'd forget the tricks in the types I just mastered. I plan on going back and doing a bunch of whichever I have the most problem with after I finish all in the sequence if I need to.
Yeah that's what I originally wanted to do but I felt the same way. If I went from doing a sequencing game to an in/out or whatever the case is, I'd definitely forget and set myself back. I think this is the best way to absorb everything in the fool-proof process. Good luck :)
You too! isnt foolproofing just the best! --__--
@ashleighkong22327 Yes and no. I never really stopped the fool proofing train, but I did focus on troublesome games. I did every game at least twice on each pass (so 4 total). Games that I had any ounce of hesitation on I kept in the rotation. I constantly had one pile of games from my fool proofing queue and a separate pile of games that were being reviewed a 3rd, 4th, etc. time. So I was often working on 10-20 games per day (the tougher the games in a day, the fewer I did, though). Hopefully that makes sense haha
@emilycarrazana801 said:
@ashleighkong22327 You have access to every PT with Ultimate+ so you can just print the PTs but they aren't packaged like they are with PTs 1-35.
Ahh okay thanks. I'm just trying to decide what's the best way to access PTs 1-35 for LG fool-proofing. I was looking into just buying packs of the PTs and photocopying but I'm unsure whether or not it's cost-effective.