this is clicking nicely and it is such a nice change of pace from where i previously felt like i was learning a whole new language (and was awful at it lol)
Could someone help break this down for me more in a simple way? The video does kinda help, but I'm still getting these wrong and trying to grasp the concept at the same time. Thanks and appreciate any feedback!
@isabellagirjikian Hi! I'll try my best. If I'm being completely honest, I am not using the chart/spectrum of support that 7sage teaches. I think approaching Point at Issue questions like "Most Strongly Supported" questions is a great approach. Also, I think the first part of this lesson, where they talk about the speakers either being explicit vs. implicit about their opinions helped me to better approach those questions.
For this specific example, this was my approach:
1) Read the question.
2) Identify that it's a point at issue question type and tell myself that I'm looking for where the speakers disagree
3) Translate Lutsina's argument/identify the conclusion. Lutsina is saying that futuristic sci-fi is a better source of social criticism than conventional fiction.
4) Translate Priscilla argument/indentify the conclusion. Priscilla is saying that conventional fiction is a better source of social criticism than sci-fi because conventional fiction is grounded in reality.
5) I think from here, we can deduce that they're disagreeing about what which fiction genre serves as a better tool for social criticism.
I would say that in this example, their point of disagreement is explicitly stated. Lutsina, in the last sentence, says "Thus futuristic sci-fi has the potential to be a richer source of social criticism." Richer than what? Than conventional fiction. A comparison is being made here. Priscilla refutes this claim by saying, in the last sentence, "the most effective social criticism results from...conventional fiction." Answer choice C gets us here.
I think definitely having an understanding of the grammar can really help break it down. I too typically get tripped up a lot by the wording, but I was able to break this one down really quickly on what they were comparing without all the extra modifiers. I just kind of ignored them lol and got right to the point. Then went straight to the answers to compare what I had and got it right!
not sure why but this is clicking really easily!! so happy to finally get a concept without having to go through the motions and question my sense of reality
I feel like the LSAT just adds words and longer sentences to trip overwhelm you as a reader when questions increase in level. The way I broke this down was identifying the core what they were saying. Lutsina, is saying furutrisitc science is a richer source than conventional fiction and Priscilla is saying vice versa.
Wow, I had a wrong answer chosen for the longest time but I had to re-read and then I got the right answer! 56 seconds over but I am learning that right answer > time, for now!
The wordiness of this question made it seem way worse than it actually was. Once you realize the conclusion/PAI is the last sentence, everything made more sense lol.
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this is clicking nicely and it is such a nice change of pace from where i previously felt like i was learning a whole new language (and was awful at it lol)
this question made me feel like i don't know how to read
Could someone help break this down for me more in a simple way? The video does kinda help, but I'm still getting these wrong and trying to grasp the concept at the same time. Thanks and appreciate any feedback!
@isabellagirjikian Hi! I'll try my best. If I'm being completely honest, I am not using the chart/spectrum of support that 7sage teaches. I think approaching Point at Issue questions like "Most Strongly Supported" questions is a great approach. Also, I think the first part of this lesson, where they talk about the speakers either being explicit vs. implicit about their opinions helped me to better approach those questions.
For this specific example, this was my approach:
1) Read the question.
2) Identify that it's a point at issue question type and tell myself that I'm looking for where the speakers disagree
3) Translate Lutsina's argument/identify the conclusion. Lutsina is saying that futuristic sci-fi is a better source of social criticism than conventional fiction.
4) Translate Priscilla argument/indentify the conclusion. Priscilla is saying that conventional fiction is a better source of social criticism than sci-fi because conventional fiction is grounded in reality.
5) I think from here, we can deduce that they're disagreeing about what which fiction genre serves as a better tool for social criticism.
I would say that in this example, their point of disagreement is explicitly stated. Lutsina, in the last sentence, says "Thus futuristic sci-fi has the potential to be a richer source of social criticism." Richer than what? Than conventional fiction. A comparison is being made here. Priscilla refutes this claim by saying, in the last sentence, "the most effective social criticism results from...conventional fiction." Answer choice C gets us here.
Very stupid mistake by me on this one, totally didn't read the answer choices right
I think definitely having an understanding of the grammar can really help break it down. I too typically get tripped up a lot by the wording, but I was able to break this one down really quickly on what they were comparing without all the extra modifiers. I just kind of ignored them lol and got right to the point. Then went straight to the answers to compare what I had and got it right!
Got it right but this is def a 5 star question
Got it right but it took me 6:43.
the wording in this one made my brain hurt. Got it right but +1 min
i hate the wording on this one but got it right on blind review lol
got it right, but took my time, need to improve in speed
not sure why but this is clicking really easily!! so happy to finally get a concept without having to go through the motions and question my sense of reality
@Jasmin13 It's so refreshing and lets me feel not entirely stupid for at least one lesson lol
@JessM unfortunately very short lived for me lol but happy nonetheless
@Jasmin13 a win is a win
Got it right on the BR, totally flunked the first attempt.
Nope. That was awful.
took me 10 minutes but I got it right!
got it right! :)
i got this right but i HATE the way it was written.
I feel like the LSAT just adds words and longer sentences to trip overwhelm you as a reader when questions increase in level. The way I broke this down was identifying the core what they were saying. Lutsina, is saying furutrisitc science is a richer source than conventional fiction and Priscilla is saying vice versa.
Ended up eliminating all of the options then I had to reread the stimulus and I got it.
I did not like this question
I understood Lutsina portion but Priscilla first sentence really tripped me up
Wow, I had a wrong answer chosen for the longest time but I had to re-read and then I got the right answer! 56 seconds over but I am learning that right answer > time, for now!
YESSIR 1:21 only over by 11 seconds. Dissected it by trying to just understand the difference in these perspectives, and where they would butt heads.
It took me several minutes to answer this one, I got it right but I had to write through it.
The wording on this question was actual hell. I got it right, but it took me 7 minutes.
The wordiness of this question made it seem way worse than it actually was. Once you realize the conclusion/PAI is the last sentence, everything made more sense lol.