For questions like these I find it hard to map onto the spectrum of support using the MSS method for each person because the answer choices are the spectrum itself.
Does anybody have a method on how to map the answer choices onto the spectrum of support when the choices are spectrum themselves? I know JY says just pick a stance but I think that method will be very confusing. does anybody have any tips?
I was able to Quick View and get the right answer, but i feel like it took me longer than I'd like to think it through. I'm glad at this point to be moving in the right direction though!
Why do we need to map the conditional relationship? I'm just finding the conclusions of the two points and the disagreement points and finding the answer that matches the disagreement or agreements. If two answers are close, then delve into the specifics.
I do not like when the answers are showed last. The answer choices should be showed during the explanation so we can work on it ourselves before you give the answer.
I read this as a first pass and immediately knew without working/modeling out the logic flow it was either A or B and chose A. I also ran it by ChatGPT (which we all know its models may not be 100% accurate) to then see how the AI solved it and it too came up with A as well. It had an interesting view, and now I second guess. If we understand this to be about the 'role' of a teacher v. a 'learning method', then I'd agree with 7sage.
Analyze A v. B for the answer choice
Why Option (a) Might Be Stronger:
While both answers capture important aspects of their disagreement, option (a) is more directly related to the specific disagreement about acquiring fundamental knowledge. Gaby and Logan's views revolve around how children learn best—through interest-driven exploration versus structured instruction.
Why Option (b) Is Also Valid:
Option (b) focuses on the teacher's role in guiding that process, which is a central theme in their dialogue. It points to the degree of direction teachers should provide, which is a valid interpretation of their disagreement.
Conclusion:
Best Answer: While both options can be defended, (a) is the more precise answer regarding the fundamental disagreement about the method of acquiring knowledge.
(b) is also correct in the context of their debate about the teacher's role but is less specific about the overall educational philosophy regarding knowledge acquisition.
Final Thoughts:
In an LSAT context, it's crucial to select the answer that best encapsulates the core disagreement. Therefore, while both (a) and (b) capture elements of their conversation, (a) is the most straightforward and directly related to the heart of the issue regarding how children should learn.
If you have any more questions or need further clarification, feel free to ask!
When I pause, the screen disappears. Is this happening to anyone else? I pause it so I can take my time and read the passage but it just disappears. Can this be fixed?
#feedback In situations like this where we go through and dissect a question, I find it more helpful to have the question be displayed unadulterated, and in full prior to analysis. I find that it helps if I can take my own unofficial attempt at the question before we dive in. In this example specifically, I could very well see myself being duped by answer choice A, but when I don't get a chance to answer it on my own, like in this video, answer choice A never has a chance to be potentially correct, and is obviously wrong.
re: the explanation on why option A is a trap — wouldn't saying that fundamentals can only be acquired by disciplined instruction also insinuate that it is also the best way?
For PAI question in which the stance of the speaker is NOT on SURFACE lvl, it is ALWAYS the case that within their statements there will be NO conclusion and that's why we must do MSS on the premises (claims) being made within their statement. Then, once we have inferred the conclusion that is what we use to see the disagreement/agreement with the other speaker? #feedback #help
For those stating that they wish they could see the whole answer before doing the video, the URL provides with the test number, section, and question. To sign up for these lessons you need a Law Hub subscription. You can always look it up that way first and then do the video.
Does every MSS or PAI have a conclusion in thr passage (s)? If no, would it be better not to be looking for conclusions? Ofc in this case, there were conclusions and identifying them were helpful. But i want a guidance i cam use in general.
Can you add QuickView of each question so we can work on the question on our own before the video? Thank you!
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Yikes.. this one got me... most of the answers are pretty good answers haha
Teach them instead of handing out a freakin packet yo!
Gah, I initially picked A because I got trapped by the "fundamental knowledge" bit. Glad to see I picked the right answer after some more thinking!
why is future success necessary for acquiring fundamental knowledge (fs --> afk) and not the other way around?
For questions like these I find it hard to map onto the spectrum of support using the MSS method for each person because the answer choices are the spectrum itself.
Does anybody have a method on how to map the answer choices onto the spectrum of support when the choices are spectrum themselves? I know JY says just pick a stance but I think that method will be very confusing. does anybody have any tips?
I was able to Quick View and get the right answer, but i feel like it took me longer than I'd like to think it through. I'm glad at this point to be moving in the right direction though!
Why do we need to map the conditional relationship? I'm just finding the conclusions of the two points and the disagreement points and finding the answer that matches the disagreement or agreements. If two answers are close, then delve into the specifics.
This seems so simple to me, yet the MSS questions were getting me!!
I do not like when the answers are showed last. The answer choices should be showed during the explanation so we can work on it ourselves before you give the answer.
I read this as a first pass and immediately knew without working/modeling out the logic flow it was either A or B and chose A. I also ran it by ChatGPT (which we all know its models may not be 100% accurate) to then see how the AI solved it and it too came up with A as well. It had an interesting view, and now I second guess. If we understand this to be about the 'role' of a teacher v. a 'learning method', then I'd agree with 7sage.
Analyze A v. B for the answer choice
Why Option (a) Might Be Stronger:
While both answers capture important aspects of their disagreement, option (a) is more directly related to the specific disagreement about acquiring fundamental knowledge. Gaby and Logan's views revolve around how children learn best—through interest-driven exploration versus structured instruction.
Why Option (b) Is Also Valid:
Option (b) focuses on the teacher's role in guiding that process, which is a central theme in their dialogue. It points to the degree of direction teachers should provide, which is a valid interpretation of their disagreement.
Conclusion:
Best Answer: While both options can be defended, (a) is the more precise answer regarding the fundamental disagreement about the method of acquiring knowledge.
(b) is also correct in the context of their debate about the teacher's role but is less specific about the overall educational philosophy regarding knowledge acquisition.
Final Thoughts:
In an LSAT context, it's crucial to select the answer that best encapsulates the core disagreement. Therefore, while both (a) and (b) capture elements of their conversation, (a) is the most straightforward and directly related to the heart of the issue regarding how children should learn.
If you have any more questions or need further clarification, feel free to ask!
wow i probably would have gotten this wrong smh
I didnt feel the need to make an inference for logan, I thought that he already did say that?
When I pause, the screen disappears. Is this happening to anyone else? I pause it so I can take my time and read the passage but it just disappears. Can this be fixed?
I wish we could answer the question before it gets dissected. Feels like missed practice.
time stamp 3:23 - J.Y. says 'only' is a group 3 indicator but it is listed under group 2 indicators #feedback
#feedback In situations like this where we go through and dissect a question, I find it more helpful to have the question be displayed unadulterated, and in full prior to analysis. I find that it helps if I can take my own unofficial attempt at the question before we dive in. In this example specifically, I could very well see myself being duped by answer choice A, but when I don't get a chance to answer it on my own, like in this video, answer choice A never has a chance to be potentially correct, and is obviously wrong.
re: the explanation on why option A is a trap — wouldn't saying that fundamentals can only be acquired by disciplined instruction also insinuate that it is also the best way?
For PAI question in which the stance of the speaker is NOT on SURFACE lvl, it is ALWAYS the case that within their statements there will be NO conclusion and that's why we must do MSS on the premises (claims) being made within their statement. Then, once we have inferred the conclusion that is what we use to see the disagreement/agreement with the other speaker? #feedback #help
Go back to showing the entire question before we play the video so we can digest where we went wrong.
For those stating that they wish they could see the whole answer before doing the video, the URL provides with the test number, section, and question. To sign up for these lessons you need a Law Hub subscription. You can always look it up that way first and then do the video.
Does every MSS or PAI have a conclusion in thr passage (s)? If no, would it be better not to be looking for conclusions? Ofc in this case, there were conclusions and identifying them were helpful. But i want a guidance i cam use in general.
I really wish he would show all the answer choices at once so I could see if I got it correct before watching the video.
#feedbackIn the video, JY says that "only" indicates a Group 3 indicator, but it's a Group 2 indicator.
#feedback
Can you add QuickView of each question so we can work on the question on our own before the video? Thank you!