This has been a tough section for me but absolutely LOVE these explanations and seeing exactly where I went wrong and how to proceed/write/draw things out. More practice it is. Thanks #feedback
I chose D then changed it to C during blind review.
Looking at it visually helped me understand better why C was wrong... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zyLHVRiSwvRqaQZGMnnY9tecPAO63Id-OVGvAS15yHo/edit?usp=sharing
Ya I made it. A bit overboard, but I was having trouble always noting different sets especially when they were more hidden like this. Seeing it visually helped.
It really exemplified the principle:
When nouns are modified, they’re being cut down into a subset. Keep track of the set, especially if a rule lives inside a particular set. A common error is applying a rule that lives inside a set to things outside the set.
Here I was conflating Well designed public spaces and coffeehouses as the same set. Seeing it visually helped me understand why the rule that applied to well designed public spaces didn't apply to coffeehouses.
Here's to getting better at keeping track of the set!
I don't know if this will help anyone understand why C is correct but this is what helped me!
Most coffeehouses that are well designed feature artwork
All it says in the stimulus is that most PUBLIC PLACES that are well designed feature art work not that most coffeehouses that are well designed feature artwork. Sure there is a chance that a well designed coffee house may feature art work. But coffeehouses only comprise a sliver of well designed public places. So to say that most coffeehouses that are well designed feature artwork would not make sense to say.
I'm in a coffeehouse right now, pretty well-designed, and not a sliver of art work is featured lol.
Same! I was confused as well until I remembered that coffeehouses / restaurants may just be the tiny dot inside of a big circle encompassing all things that are well designed. Since the second sentence of the stimulus says most well-designed things feature artwork at least a majority of that big circle of well-designed things, say 51%, features artwork. But there is no guarantee that the dot that is coffeehouses / restaurants is included in that "most" portion of the circle which also features artwork.
realised the answer often links the first thing of the chain (well designed) to the last thing in the chain (spacious interior). not always, but a pattern ive seen so far. i skim for it in the answers and see it happen alot
The dichotomy of comfortable/uncomfortable gave me trouble. In real conversation "comfort" is a spectrum; just because you're not uncomfortable doesn't mean you're definitely comfortable. You could just be okay, somewhere in the middle. Yet here the answer relies on flipping uncomfortable directly into comfortable. Do I misunderstand English/grammar?
I experienced this problem too. How can we know when a problem expects us to judge grammar based on a spectrum versus using the antithesis of a word when it is negated?
The negation of comfortable = not comfortable. (and not comfortable simply means uncomfortable).
Not comfortable could mean you are neutral or uncomfortable:
not comfortable = neutral or uncomfortable.
So when we negate "not comfortable" :
not {not comfortable} = not {neutral or uncomfortable}
So not "not comfortable" (not uncomfortable) would mean you are not "neutral or uncomfortable" meaning that you are certainly comfortable, just given how negations work.
Try to analogize with:
negation of pink = not pink (could be red or blue or any other non-pink color)
negation of "not pink" = not "not pink" (not being "not pink" means you are certainly pink, because you are not anything that is considered "non-pink color").
I know it sounds weird, but thinking of it like that helped me understand! English is so weird :(
So I was on the right track, but got scared taking the contrapositive of comfortable. I don't know why I got nervous writing uncomfortable as /comfortable, in my head I was remembering previous lessons where we were told to be careful not to equate something not being it as the same as the opposite (ex: cold is not the opposite of hot, it's just not hot.) I thought it was the same for this; so when would I know when to apply both concepts, and why was I wrong for thinking that this way? I would've gotten it right if it wasn't for this :(
That's something I struggled with, too. In my initial overview, I wrote it as /uncomfortable. When I was doing Blind Review, I realized, "wait, 'not uncomfortable' is clumsy" and I wrote it as "/comfortable," which helped me get the right answer. I think after a while, you'll develop an intuitive sense for when doing not hot = cold and not hot is just not hot (or at least I hope so)!
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This has been a tough section for me but absolutely LOVE these explanations and seeing exactly where I went wrong and how to proceed/write/draw things out. More practice it is. Thanks #feedback
That's the attitude!!!
Just beasted all over this question. Total destruction #SWAG
LFG Big Chungus
It took me 18 minutes, but I went to Shell City, and I rode the Hasselhof and I GOT THE CROWN BACK!
this one was so rewarding to get correct
@yes-coconuts I screamed silently in my office
My toxic trait is getting it right the first time, then changing it in BR.
@lianastovall107 I used to do it too because rushing in and then second guessing. Slow down and eventually you will stop doing it
answered a minute under target time!
(my answer was wrong)
I chose D then changed it to C during blind review.
Looking at it visually helped me understand better why C was wrong... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zyLHVRiSwvRqaQZGMnnY9tecPAO63Id-OVGvAS15yHo/edit?usp=sharing
That was very helpful! Thank you for taking the time to 1) make that 2) share it because it really clicked for me with the visuals!
Hi, where are you finding the google doc? Are you making them!
Ya I made it. A bit overboard, but I was having trouble always noting different sets especially when they were more hidden like this. Seeing it visually helped.
It really exemplified the principle:
When nouns are modified, they’re being cut down into a subset. Keep track of the set, especially if a rule lives inside a particular set. A common error is applying a rule that lives inside a set to things outside the set.
Here I was conflating Well designed public spaces and coffeehouses as the same set. Seeing it visually helped me understand why the rule that applied to well designed public spaces didn't apply to coffeehouses.
Here's to getting better at keeping track of the set!
If you chose C, like me and can't understand why it's wrong: It's an All before Most Trap.
@MelanieGonzalez Thank you, omg i love you.
I don't know if this will help anyone understand why C is correct but this is what helped me!
Most coffeehouses that are well designed feature artwork
All it says in the stimulus is that most PUBLIC PLACES that are well designed feature art work not that most coffeehouses that are well designed feature artwork. Sure there is a chance that a well designed coffee house may feature art work. But coffeehouses only comprise a sliver of well designed public places. So to say that most coffeehouses that are well designed feature artwork would not make sense to say.
I'm in a coffeehouse right now, pretty well-designed, and not a sliver of art work is featured lol.
Same! I was confused as well until I remembered that coffeehouses / restaurants may just be the tiny dot inside of a big circle encompassing all things that are well designed. Since the second sentence of the stimulus says most well-designed things feature artwork at least a majority of that big circle of well-designed things, say 51%, features artwork. But there is no guarantee that the dot that is coffeehouses / restaurants is included in that "most" portion of the circle which also features artwork.
ya. I'm screwed
OMGGGGG am I learning :) I could cry tears of joy I got this right LMAO
Only took me 11 mins to get it but i chose the right answer LMAO
This put my brain into a blender
realised the answer often links the first thing of the chain (well designed) to the last thing in the chain (spacious interior). not always, but a pattern ive seen so far. i skim for it in the answers and see it happen alot
I found this much more easier than the exotic birds/tropical fish one even though this is rated higher in difficulty lol
I got it right sooo proud of myself omg
How can we assume that "not uncomfortable" is comfortable. I know it makes sense, but I remember a lesson where it was not accurate to do this?
I am once again noticing a correlation between the number of comments and the difficulty of the question.
LETS GOOOOO I got a level 5 difficulty right FINALLY
I, too, love baguettes.
The dichotomy of comfortable/uncomfortable gave me trouble. In real conversation "comfort" is a spectrum; just because you're not uncomfortable doesn't mean you're definitely comfortable. You could just be okay, somewhere in the middle. Yet here the answer relies on flipping uncomfortable directly into comfortable. Do I misunderstand English/grammar?
I experienced this problem too. How can we know when a problem expects us to judge grammar based on a spectrum versus using the antithesis of a word when it is negated?
Think of it like this:
The negation of comfortable = not comfortable. (and not comfortable simply means uncomfortable).
Not comfortable could mean you are neutral or uncomfortable:
not comfortable = neutral or uncomfortable.
So when we negate "not comfortable" :
not {not comfortable} = not {neutral or uncomfortable}
So not "not comfortable" (not uncomfortable) would mean you are not "neutral or uncomfortable" meaning that you are certainly comfortable, just given how negations work.
Try to analogize with:
negation of pink = not pink (could be red or blue or any other non-pink color)
negation of "not pink" = not "not pink" (not being "not pink" means you are certainly pink, because you are not anything that is considered "non-pink color").
I know it sounds weird, but thinking of it like that helped me understand! English is so weird :(
omg this is my first comment only because i got this right. im in heaven
Is anyone else having trouble with these?
Yes
This question made me cry
So I was on the right track, but got scared taking the contrapositive of comfortable. I don't know why I got nervous writing uncomfortable as /comfortable, in my head I was remembering previous lessons where we were told to be careful not to equate something not being it as the same as the opposite (ex: cold is not the opposite of hot, it's just not hot.) I thought it was the same for this; so when would I know when to apply both concepts, and why was I wrong for thinking that this way? I would've gotten it right if it wasn't for this :(
That's something I struggled with, too. In my initial overview, I wrote it as /uncomfortable. When I was doing Blind Review, I realized, "wait, 'not uncomfortable' is clumsy" and I wrote it as "/comfortable," which helped me get the right answer. I think after a while, you'll develop an intuitive sense for when doing not hot = cold and not hot is just not hot (or at least I hope so)!
I hated this one and would've skipped it on the exam lol
Dang that was a rough one