When I was initially mapping out this question, I had "comfortable" and "uncomfortable" as separate ideas in the lawgic chain. When I instead understood "uncomfortable" as the negation of "comfortable," this question became a lot easier!
Got it right but I had to guess between C and D and D felt stronger but I couldn't explain why. Is the reason why C is wrong essentially the formal argument flaw "all before most"?
Like if it was "most before all", (C -m> WD > FA) then this would be valid, right?
@LSATKilla87 I thought so as first, but C is wrong I believe because it is asking you to make a most claim off of another most claim, which you cannot do.
I did the logic so fast in my head that I read the answers too fast and picked the wrong answer the first time...It seems like I usually fumble once I get to the answer choices T_T
Writing this out helped me come to terms that C is completely wrong (I changed it to D during blind review but still didn't eliminate C), I hope this helps someone else too!
C is incorrect because it says "most coffeehouses that are well-designed". The stimulus mentions "most well-designed public places" -- coffeehouses would be a subset of that if they were well-designed. We don't know if this applies to coffeehouses as well:
coffeehouse -> public place -m-> feature artwork
It would have been different if the -m-> was like this:
coffeehouse -m-> public place -> feature artwork
REMEMBER:
A -m-> B -> C means A -m-> C
HOWEVER, this relationship gets lost and does not apply when A -> B -m-> C. This is what we saw in wrong answer C.
wait why are we assuming its wither comfortable or uncomfortable, why cant there be a middle ground. because it does not explicitly say all that aren't uncomfortable are comfortable
@BrandonSharif the "un" attached to "un"comfortable implies not or opposite. so rather than graphing the word uncomfortable as : uncomfortable ---> /well designed, you can just graph it as /comfortable ---> /well designed. Then when you go to do the contrapositive it gives you well designed ---> comfortable.
I didn't watch the video so idk if he explains that, and this post was a few days ago so idk if this comment is even necessary, but hopefully this helps some.
27 seconds over but got it right first try! i've been scared to diagram with pen and paper but it's led me to right answers, i will focus on timing later on when i am more confident.
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When I was initially mapping out this question, I had "comfortable" and "uncomfortable" as separate ideas in the lawgic chain. When I instead understood "uncomfortable" as the negation of "comfortable," this question became a lot easier!
still don't understand why we cant establish a stronger relationship between Coffee Houses and Public places that are well designed.
If all Coffee Houses are Public Places cant we say: CH-> PP
And since Most PP that are well designed feature art work cant we say: PP+WD -> FA
Which would mean we can say CH + PP -> FA
Dang that was a rough one
I got it on a BR after I mapped the sht out of this; C tripped me up
It took me 18 minutes, but I went to Shell City, and I rode the Hasselhof and I GOT THE CROWN BACK!
Went over time, but actually got it right! Slowly getting there! :)
Got it right but I had to guess between C and D and D felt stronger but I couldn't explain why. Is the reason why C is wrong essentially the formal argument flaw "all before most"?
Like if it was "most before all", (C -m> WD > FA) then this would be valid, right?
@LSATKilla87 I thought so as first, but C is wrong I believe because it is asking you to make a most claim off of another most claim, which you cannot do.
I got it right because only one answer had coffeehouse and restaurant.
Easy question and did it with 41 seconds remaining. Can't believe this was a 5/5 difficulty.
@ThePainter alright buddy
@ThePainter this guy must be fun at parties...
almost fell for the confusing necessary for sufficient trap on answer c
I did the logic so fast in my head that I read the answers too fast and picked the wrong answer the first time...It seems like I usually fumble once I get to the answer choices T_T
Writing this out helped me come to terms that C is completely wrong (I changed it to D during blind review but still didn't eliminate C), I hope this helps someone else too!
C is incorrect because it says "most coffeehouses that are well-designed". The stimulus mentions "most well-designed public places" -- coffeehouses would be a subset of that if they were well-designed. We don't know if this applies to coffeehouses as well:
coffeehouse -> public place -m-> feature artwork
It would have been different if the -m-> was like this:
coffeehouse -m-> public place -> feature artwork
REMEMBER:
A -m-> B -> C means A -m-> C
HOWEVER, this relationship gets lost and does not apply when A -> B -m-> C. This is what we saw in wrong answer C.
wait why are we assuming its wither comfortable or uncomfortable, why cant there be a middle ground. because it does not explicitly say all that aren't uncomfortable are comfortable
@BrandonSharif the "un" attached to "un"comfortable implies not or opposite. so rather than graphing the word uncomfortable as : uncomfortable ---> /well designed, you can just graph it as /comfortable ---> /well designed. Then when you go to do the contrapositive it gives you well designed ---> comfortable.
I didn't watch the video so idk if he explains that, and this post was a few days ago so idk if this comment is even necessary, but hopefully this helps some.
How would answer C fair in a Most Strongly Supported question?
this one was so rewarding to get correct
@coconut I screamed silently in my office
27 seconds over but got it right first try! i've been scared to diagram with pen and paper but it's led me to right answers, i will focus on timing later on when i am more confident.
@amytorres Same! proud of us
got it right on my blind review. i had to map everything out. I went over about 52 secs.
took me 7 minutes but this is my first level 5 difficulty question that I've gotten correct!
This one is easy but I really need to write down the logic for MBT questions, I have a hard time just imagining it
why was this one easier than the last one lol
Got it right with 21s to spare. Phew!
I am once again noticing a correlation between the number of comments and the difficulty of the question.
slowly the math is mathing
mapped it out perfectly, but was horridly over time lol
got it wrong then right in BR bc I mapped it out perfectly