Did diagramming mess anyone else’s brain up? I used to get these a little more intuitively. Not sure how to go back to how I use to think of these questions lol
Let's all manifest: One day we will all be studying actual laws in law school and will look back on all the hours we studied how to solve hypothetical riddles and laugh.
It’s so easy once you see the answer. I got it right, but spent too much time. And then I see the answer and I’m just like duh. If Wally’s is large, then we know two things. The first thing (commercial growers) is irrelevant. The second thing is that they probably guarantee their plants. And since the plant failed a virus-free guarantee, then it was probably not as guaranteed.
It sucks to get these questions wrong on both the Actual and the BR, but hey at the very least its showing me and helping me admit my weak areas. Just gotta remember to stay positive when facing adversity. I may be bad at this type of question, but I am only bad at them at this point in time. With patience, perseverance, self-confidence, and probably a little luck and nudge from the Big Guy Upstairs™ I will be better at them come test day
This is the sketchiest question I've viewed to date. the word "guaranteed" apparently doesn't have to mean "guaranteed." I thought we should assume that the stimulus is true. Doesn't that mean guarantee means guarantee????
@npf87 My thoughts exactly. If something is guaranteed – shouldn't it be...guaranteed? But I think its because the guarantee is on the claim — not the outcome.
@npf87 I also had this issue. I realized its an annoying grammar mistake. The stim is basically saying "they only sell plants they guarantee to be disease free" This is like saying they sell the guarantee. Therefore in the conditional (and answers) the negation would be like "they were not guaranteed"
If it said "they only sell disease-free plants" then it would be a conditional sell --> disease-free
I mistakenly identified plants that are guaranteed to be disease-free as plants that are disease-free. Companies can guarantee that their food is disease-free, but still have their food carrying diseases, just like how I can promise to work hard today, but still end up scrolling reels.
Eliminated till the last choice and got super confused why this question has to do with guarantees.
Found this one kinda dumb. So if they sell ONLY plants guaranteed to be disease-free then the guarantee can still be moot? What's the point of a guarantee then? I see why the other choices are less supported though.
@bsabir This applies in real life too. Just because some company "guarantees" something, that doesn't entirely eliminate a faulty outlier here and there. If that happens IRL, just go and exchange, no big deal. Perfection can never be 100% guaranteed.
YESSSSS!! 1:15 over but got it right. I used process of elimination, getting rid of answer choices I immediately doubted and couldn’t support with the information in the stimulus.
I don't know about the video explanation for why C is wrong. C doesn't claim that all large nurseries do business primarily with commercial growers. A large nursery can sell mostly to commercial growers and still sell to most of the non-commercial growers if there aren't that many non-commercial growers. C claims that most non-commercial growers buy from non-large nurseries. The issue is that you can't take a contrapositive of a most claim. If these were non-intersecting sets, C would be correct.
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Did diagramming mess anyone else’s brain up? I used to get these a little more intuitively. Not sure how to go back to how I use to think of these questions lol
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Let's all manifest: One day we will all be studying actual laws in law school and will look back on all the hours we studied how to solve hypothetical riddles and laugh.
lowk I hated this one
It’s so easy once you see the answer. I got it right, but spent too much time. And then I see the answer and I’m just like duh. If Wally’s is large, then we know two things. The first thing (commercial growers) is irrelevant. The second thing is that they probably guarantee their plants. And since the plant failed a virus-free guarantee, then it was probably not as guaranteed.
OVER TIME BUT I GOT ITTTT
this one is outrageously difficult lol
It sucks to get these questions wrong on both the Actual and the BR, but hey at the very least its showing me and helping me admit my weak areas. Just gotta remember to stay positive when facing adversity. I may be bad at this type of question, but I am only bad at them at this point in time. With patience, perseverance, self-confidence, and probably a little luck and nudge from the Big Guy Upstairs™ I will be better at them come test day
@ManusWeber Is this a valid argument? Lol
got this right from POE
ive gotten all the 5 difficulty right so far this is a miracle
@yam omg same I'm impressed and feeling good with myself. Congrats!
GODDAM these are hard af.
3 max difficult questions in a row is diabolical. BUT, I will survive. One foot in front of the other.
I think it's easier to understand why the other choices are incorrect if you make the logic chain. The main chain says: LN -m- CG and DFG
A: It just doesn't make sense, because we know that large nurseries have the guarantee but we have no idea about small or medium ones.
B: /DFG → /C. We know by now that "most" chains are not reversible and even if it was, this doesn't follow the original chain whatsoever
C: /C → /LN. Again, "most" chains are not reversible.
D: Sells to C → /LN. The original chain says the exact opposite and "most" chains are not reversible
By POE we can tell it's E.
i just don't have the energy anymore
@JW2K you better keep going!
This is the sketchiest question I've viewed to date. the word "guaranteed" apparently doesn't have to mean "guaranteed." I thought we should assume that the stimulus is true. Doesn't that mean guarantee means guarantee????
@npf87 My thoughts exactly. If something is guaranteed – shouldn't it be...guaranteed? But I think its because the guarantee is on the claim — not the outcome.
@npf87 this is exactly what I have been thinking about... I don't understand
@npf87 I also had this issue. I realized its an annoying grammar mistake. The stim is basically saying "they only sell plants they guarantee to be disease free" This is like saying they sell the guarantee. Therefore in the conditional (and answers) the negation would be like "they were not guaranteed"
If it said "they only sell disease-free plants" then it would be a conditional sell --> disease-free
WAY OVER TIME BUT GOT IT RIGHT W/O BLIND REVIEW IM LEARNING!!!
Could we say LN --m--> primarily commercial AND guarantee? or does it need to be separate?
learning to take my time and understand before I dive into answering the question with the time constraint. slow and steady will win the race!!
I mistakenly identified plants that are guaranteed to be disease-free as plants that are disease-free. Companies can guarantee that their food is disease-free, but still have their food carrying diseases, just like how I can promise to work hard today, but still end up scrolling reels.
Eliminated till the last choice and got super confused why this question has to do with guarantees.
The passage take about most large nurseries probably (most likely) guarantee disease free plants. Doesnt most+most = some?
@arose it says "Most large nurseries... sell only plants that are guaranteed to be disease-free"
Most nurseries... and of these nurseries - they all only sell plants that are guaranteed
Over 1:20 but finalllyyyy got this down!! and its a hard level question :)
Found this one kinda dumb. So if they sell ONLY plants guaranteed to be disease-free then the guarantee can still be moot? What's the point of a guarantee then? I see why the other choices are less supported though.
@bsabir This applies in real life too. Just because some company "guarantees" something, that doesn't entirely eliminate a faulty outlier here and there. If that happens IRL, just go and exchange, no big deal. Perfection can never be 100% guaranteed.
YESSSSS!! 1:15 over but got it right. I used process of elimination, getting rid of answer choices I immediately doubted and couldn’t support with the information in the stimulus.
I don't know about the video explanation for why C is wrong. C doesn't claim that all large nurseries do business primarily with commercial growers. A large nursery can sell mostly to commercial growers and still sell to most of the non-commercial growers if there aren't that many non-commercial growers. C claims that most non-commercial growers buy from non-large nurseries. The issue is that you can't take a contrapositive of a most claim. If these were non-intersecting sets, C would be correct.