One of my biggest concerns with this and other sections is over-confidence and under-preparation. Based on the lessons learned over the course of the foundations learning block, as well as the lessons in this section, I have been able to intuitively understand the questions and do relatively well. However, I do not map anything out on paper, instead opting to work out the answers in my head. This has worked for now as the questions presented are designed to gradually increase in difficulty, but I am worried that my lack of mapping will be a disadvantage on the actual test. Reading this review lesson and watching the instructor map out each question makes me question whether my way is the most efficient. This style is just not intuitive, but I wonder if it is worth adopting it even if it means delaying my progress. For the time being, I am grasping these questions well, and I also understand quickly when and why I answer a question incorrectly. This, at the very least, brings me some sort of comfort. I am not sure what I want to communicate with this post, I suppose I am thinking out loud. Please let me know if anyone shares these concerns!
Um it's kinda difficult on my end to understand what this means although i got most questions in this section right. Can anyone "translate" what they mean? Esp what does it mean by there aren't others??? Conditional logic baits Stating a necessary condition doesn't mean there aren't others. Stating a sufficient condition doesn't mean there aren't others.
SOS: I am having a really hard time with this section. I feel like I have done well with all other types of questions up until now and I do not want this to hinder the rest of my review. Any tips or tricks for this section would be sooooo so helpful. Thanks:)
i really really appreciate these review lessons, but are they like entirely daunting sometimes to anyone else lol like wow this is so much to learn and remember... and this is just one of MANY question types.
What do you guys think: if I feel that I haven't mastered MBT questions, is it best to move on and continue the program while still practicing MBT on the side? Or is it best to focus solely on MBT until I feel comfortable moving on? #help
POE is so effective for me in MBT. There are obviously 4 answer choices that are wrong, but eliminating answers that are outright ridiculous is so helpful in narrowing down the most plausible answer choices.
For almost all these questions, I was able to get the correct answer timed by doing it intuitively, process of elimination and maybe some guessing. I always thought my intuition was not that great for LSAT but I am pleasantly surprised that I do better when I am just trying to follow my intuition instead of applying the theory.
I like that JY mentioned the importance of being pragmatic. I am wondering if learning the theory will actually help to become more pragmatic? Because part of me feels that focusing on the theory messes up with just intuitively doing it.
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One of my biggest concerns with this and other sections is over-confidence and under-preparation. Based on the lessons learned over the course of the foundations learning block, as well as the lessons in this section, I have been able to intuitively understand the questions and do relatively well. However, I do not map anything out on paper, instead opting to work out the answers in my head. This has worked for now as the questions presented are designed to gradually increase in difficulty, but I am worried that my lack of mapping will be a disadvantage on the actual test. Reading this review lesson and watching the instructor map out each question makes me question whether my way is the most efficient. This style is just not intuitive, but I wonder if it is worth adopting it even if it means delaying my progress. For the time being, I am grasping these questions well, and I also understand quickly when and why I answer a question incorrectly. This, at the very least, brings me some sort of comfort. I am not sure what I want to communicate with this post, I suppose I am thinking out loud. Please let me know if anyone shares these concerns!
Um it's kinda difficult on my end to understand what this means although i got most questions in this section right. Can anyone "translate" what they mean? Esp what does it mean by there aren't others??? Conditional logic baits Stating a necessary condition doesn't mean there aren't others. Stating a sufficient condition doesn't mean there aren't others.
Kicking it Up to the Domain has helped me a lot in cutting out the noise in these complex conditional stimuli. A very practical effective strategy.
This is bi-far the easiest one so far that ican feel the impending doom of how hard it will get later on
SOS: I am having a really hard time with this section. I feel like I have done well with all other types of questions up until now and I do not want this to hinder the rest of my review. Any tips or tricks for this section would be sooooo so helpful. Thanks:)
i really really appreciate these review lessons, but are they like entirely daunting sometimes to anyone else lol like wow this is so much to learn and remember... and this is just one of MANY question types.
This review lesson is worth its weight in gold. We will master this stuff gang
Can someone please help me understand: Identifying a causal factor doesn't preclude other causal factors.
Identifying a causal pathway doesn't preclude other causal pathways.
Inf and MBT
Patterns in the stimulus
- Review Formal/Casual logic
- Chain ideas to make inferences
- Kick ideas up into the domain
- Keep track of the sets and be careful about sliding across superset and subset
- New terms / Unfamiliar concept -> translate
- Info. might not be presented in the intuitive order, so piecing it together
- Translating into logical notation is a tool—don't force it if you don't need it
- Understand grammar thoroughly
Patterns in wrong answers
- Sufficient/necessity confusion
- Stating a necessary condition doesn't mean there aren't others.
- Stating a sufficient condition doesn't mean there aren't others
- Keep the distinction clear between the rule itself
- Causal logic baits
- Identifying a causal factor doesn't preclude other causal factors.
- Identifying a causal pathway doesn't preclude other causal pathways.
Patterns in the right answers
- Contrapositive/logically equivalent formulations
- Right answers are often predictable
- Be pragmatic: ideal answers are often not the most ideal
so for the Patterns in wrong answers
Conditional logic baits:
Stating a necessary condition doesn't mean there aren't others.
what does this mean? like confusing them? idk i think the wording tripped me up.
What do you guys think: if I feel that I haven't mastered MBT questions, is it best to move on and continue the program while still practicing MBT on the side? Or is it best to focus solely on MBT until I feel comfortable moving on? #help
This review page is awesome.
POE is so effective for me in MBT. There are obviously 4 answer choices that are wrong, but eliminating answers that are outright ridiculous is so helpful in narrowing down the most plausible answer choices.
#help
For almost all these questions, I was able to get the correct answer timed by doing it intuitively, process of elimination and maybe some guessing. I always thought my intuition was not that great for LSAT but I am pleasantly surprised that I do better when I am just trying to follow my intuition instead of applying the theory.
I like that JY mentioned the importance of being pragmatic. I am wondering if learning the theory will actually help to become more pragmatic? Because part of me feels that focusing on the theory messes up with just intuitively doing it.