Hey 7Sagers,
Here's the official June 2019 LSAT Discussion Thread.
**Please keep all discussions of the June 2019 LSAT here!**(/red)
Rules:
✅ You can identify experimental sections. 🙆♀️
You can say things such as the following:
“I had two LGs! Was the LG with "flowers" real or experimental?” “I had two RCs! Was the section that starts with the honeybee passage real?”“I had three LRs! Does anyone know if the first LR section with the goose question is real?” ❌ You can't discuss specific questions. 🙅♂️
You CANNOT say things such as the following:
“Hey, the 3rd LG was sequencing and the last one was In/Out, right?” (Don't mention the game type)“The last question in the first LR section was a lawgic heavy MBT! Was the answer (B)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)“What was the answer for the last question of RC? I think it was an inference question? Was the answer (C)?” (Don't mention the question type or ask what the answer was)Have fun discussing!
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May your LG be straight forward, RC free of riddled basins and LR comprehensible. Good luck!!!
Reading Comp - What was with the feature of the question telling you to go to the middle of the paragraph to find something instead of giving you the line number? I do not recall ever seeing this before, is this a new thing?
Yo, lets make a sept retake group and go hard on the BRs
May the force be with you, and you with the force!
@zacharytsmith26826 said:
Well this is discouraging, I had two RCs and was hoping the fish passage was experimental lol.
Same, man. I totally bombed the fish farms and felt like I did quite well on the experimental. Hopefully there is a SERIOUS curve
@eugenewrotethis726 said:
@eugenewrotethis726 said:
@danielhillshafer574
for the experimental LG section, was there something about putting things into months? like for November, December, ... ? was that from the (using power score labels) 'Art on walls of a room' game or 'Authors of a scientific paper (grads, undergrads, scientists, etc)' game?
anyone else have RC LR LG LR LG
I think the 3rd section was the experimental LG? Can someone confirm or deny this?
Confirmed.
I had the same test as you.
How’d you do on the last game?
Yes, Mine was also RC LR LG LR LG. The third one was experimental.
@eugenewrotethis726 @eugenewrotethis726 I had very weird feeling about LRs. I finished 2nd LR with ~4-5min to spare which never happened to me during PTs. The LRs in this test were so different from PT80s. I also had a streak of certain letter answers that I kept thinking during the test that this shouldn't be right...Was it super-tricky?
@nestbt01231 I tried to mimic actual testing conditions when PTing. I was surprised that things turned out be so different during actual test.
@justingendler1536 Thanks. I hope LSAC did not make the LR questions look easy (but in fact they are tricky and difficult).
I came out of that test knowing I hit nowhere near my PT scores leading up to it (170+) but feeling like there is no way I am doing this to myself again.
I was getting all the games on my practice tests and feeling amazing. But on the real thing I panicked when they didn't come easily.. I barely muscled through the 3rd game and guessed on all of the 4th one. I am neurotic, apparently, and just realized how I could've easily split and solved the 4th game while I was lying down in bed and wrote it all out. (I know this is very unhealthy behavior lol) I am so frustrated and pissed at myself. I know I can get a 170+ but I'm praying I'll even get mid to high 160s on the June test... And I'd have to wait till September to try again?!? Honestly thinking of just going in blind in September and canceling if it's no good. Maybe it'd be less pressure and I wouldn't freeze up...
Anyway, it is nice to have a place to vent about this since everyone else is saying "maybe you did better than you think!" and I am like "No, trust me. That is not how this test works." Unless I am a magic guesser!
Not sure if this is allowed to say, i will retract it if needed:
But did anyone get thrown off by the fact that for LG, they put 2 questions instead of 1 on the page with the LG stimulus?
Minor issue but kinda threw me off a tiny bit
@eugenewrotethis726 said:
@eugenewrotethis726 i thought the last LG section was okay. the first 2 games were really easy, but the last two games -- I got stuck on a couple of questions. Lots of open ended questions and I had trouble making inferences/splitting GB's. Hbu? how'd you feel?
Finished the first two in under 10 minutes and completely froze dealing with what seemed like impossibly open ended questions. Clearly exposed a weakness of mine I hadn't fleshed out. super unfortunate because I really breezed through those first two.
@eugenewrotethis726 i thought the last LG section was okay. the first 2 games were really easy, but the last two games -- I got stuck on a couple of questions. Lots of open ended questions and I had trouble making inferences/splitting GB's. Hbu? how'd you feel?
@ata9144688 said:
@nestbt01231 Yeah, it was a tough section too on top of that. I am just remembering the courtroom witnesses passage from the test, and remembering that one being kind of hard now.
For me it was the Fish and Griot/blues passage that gave me trouble. I actually quite enjoyed the witness and movie authenticity passages. I don’t remember if the blues passage was lost but I know I felt rushed for time.
@53333-eyed-raven griot/jazz one is real. I had only one RC and there was no IP/computer
@27272 said:
I remember doing an RC passage about a record label and Detroit. Was that one in the real RC or the experimental section? Also, what about the passage about griot, was that in the real RC or the experimental?
I had only one RC and remember there was one about movie and the external influences on its authenticity, 2nd one was fish farming, 3rd one was about 2 types of witnesses on the court. and the 4th one I couldn't catch up sadly
@8835 said:
@eugenewrotethis726 said:
Anyone know if the adjacent paintings / sculptures LG game was experimental?
It was game #4.
The other LG section was fairly easy. The last game was tough.
I BOMBED the sculpture game.
Yes! Word on the street is that it was crazy hard
My average for LG is -.5 and I had 7 unanswered questions when time was called. That took a toll on my mental. Thankfully, break was right after this LG so I had time to convince myself it was the experimental. It seemed WAY too tough for an LG section. It wasn't even built up by easy games like the first 3 were on the real section either. LSAC did us dirty!!
I got the fish farming RC passage bulshit, and another RC that seemed way easier
I did not have an RC passage on Brooklyn. And I only had one
Best of luck to everyone taking the exam!
@nestbt01231 said:
@nestbt01231 said:
also kudos to all who picked themselves up and kept going after rough sections! that might be the hardest part, in my opinion
It sounds like we had the same LG experience. I went over Game 3 in my head yesterday. Realized why I spent waaay too much time on it. I think for us it's a matter or learning not to panic when things don't go as planned. I think it's worth it to learn to overcome this because the LSAT won't be the last time we have to perform under pressure.
Maybe this will help.
https://www.ted.com/talks/sian_leah_beilock_why_we_choke_under_pressure_and_how_to_avoid_it/up-next?language=en
Thanks for sharing this video! It was super helpful. I’d also recommend deep breathing/mindfulness exercises to anyone struggling with performance anxiety (10/10 would recommend the Headspace app). Deep breathing definitely helped me focus more on performing rather than worrying about outcomes for the first half of the test (and alleviated some day before/morning of jitters etc). I just got caught up in the test day adrenaline by section 4 and lost my cool.
@nestbt01231 said:
@eugenewrotethis726 said:
@eugenewrotethis726 i thought the last LG section was okay. the first 2 games were really easy, but the last two games -- I got stuck on a couple of questions. Lots of open ended questions and I had trouble making inferences/splitting GB's. Hbu? how'd you feel?
Finished the first two in under 10 minutes and completely froze dealing with what seemed like impossibly open ended questions. Clearly exposed a weakness of mine I hadn't fleshed out. super unfortunate because I really breezed through those first two.
This is exactly what happened to me. After breezing through the first two, I panicked when the third one gave me trouble and it was all downhill from there.
Anyone think that the second LR was way tougher than the 1st? Second had the questions about spiders, cheetahs, and buses.
@nestbt01231 said:
also kudos to all who picked themselves up and kept going after rough sections! that might be the hardest part, in my opinion
It sounds like we had the same LG experience. I went over Game 3 in my head yesterday. Realized why I spent waaay too much time on it. I think for us it's a matter or learning not to panic when things don't go as planned. I think it's worth it to learn to overcome this because the LSAT won't be the last time we have to perform under pressure.
Maybe this will help.
https://www.ted.com/talks/sian_leah_beilock_why_we_choke_under_pressure_and_how_to_avoid_it/up-next?language=en
@dmytrobotov522 said:
Im thinking of canceling the test because of RC. Overall I thought everything else on the test was pretty easy. RC is my worst section and i felt like I was guessing a lot on this RC section. I also wasn't able to get much sleep the night before the test because I was so nervous so maybe that played a role. When the June test gets disclosed i'm curious to try that RC again to see if it was just me or if the RC was really as hard as im thinking it was.
I am not an expert by any means but I would advise against canceling. It is my understanding that they can see that you canceled so it is not as if it just doesn't show up. And since Law School's take the highest score not an average there really is not a benefit, you might as well see what you got. Plus, let's say it is a lot lower than you wanted and then you take it again and crush it. The low score on one test and high score on the next will show that you work hard, are dedicated and resilient. And the best part is, it is right there in the numbers, you don't have to say it.
I had the RC-LR-RC-LR-LG format. Does anyone else feel like they definitely bombed this LSAT? I scored 170 on PT 86 on Saturday and had an average of 168 for the last 10 or so PTs but I just feel like I was so nervous during the real exam and am worried that I underperformed considerably; especially that RC section.
@danielhillshafer574 said:
@eugenewrotethis726 said:
@eugenewrotethis726 said:
@danielhillshafer574
for the experimental LG section, was there something about putting things into months? like for November, December, ... ? was that from the (using power score labels) 'Art on walls of a room' game or 'Authors of a scientific paper (grads, undergrads, scientists, etc)' game?
anyone else have RC LR LG LR LG
I think the 3rd section was the experimental LG? Can someone confirm or deny this?
Confirmed.
I had the same test as you.
How’d you do on the last game?
Yes, Mine was also RC LR LG LR LG. The third one was experimental.
@eugenewrotethis726 @eugenewrotethis726 I had very weird feeling about LRs. I finished 2nd LR with ~4-5min to spare which never happened to me during PTs. The LRs in this test were so different from PT80s. I also had a streak of certain letter answers that I kept thinking during the test that this shouldn't be right...Was it super-tricky?
SAME. Like exact same. I was so thankful that they didn't give us anything crazy hard like PT 85. I also had some "answer patterns" which made me a little weary....