5/5 again, thank goodness. I kept double checking Q2, but I was right that it doesn't have an argument. I was thinking that the conclusion was the tidbit about the whole 'conclusion that red pandas separated blah blah blah' but it just sortof flows like an excerpt from an article not arguing anything.
@ManusWeber Same!! #2 felt like a trick question with the conclusion indicator words in there. Glad I wasn't the only one who was skeptical with this one.
Is it ok to just skip all the fluff and look for the conclusion start such as searching for a "therefore" or "as a result". Thinking about the timing of the LSAT and looking to figure it out quick. If I find the conclusion quick I can skim the top to see what the premise would be. If I don't find the conclusion indicator then I backtrack to see what the sentence is asking like #2 where I can see that the author didn't come to their own conclusion. Should I be doing this now or should I be reading the whole thing?
@JosephTrischitta It was one of the strategies given in a previous section, to look for keywords like "therefore" I find this method to be reliable to be the first thing I look at, and then go the "get to the point" and then the final strategy
so in #2 -- I think there was a conclusion but it seems like it was someone else's conclusion. So that means the author did not assert their own conclusion and instead reported someone else's conclusion..and so there is no conclusion...?
@SavanahHoffstein Same! I think this is my main issue in RC when there are multiple paragraphs and you have to find the premises and conclusions to multiple different arguments while also just taking the given information as given information. So tricky to discern the two sometimes.
On question 1, the portion " unauthorized access to all computers at the same time could be virtually eliminated"is an intermediate conclusion correct?
because its supported by a premise and supports the ultimate conclusion simultaneously
Note to self via Question #2: The author themselves need to make a conclusion, otherwise they are just reporting/relaying the opinions or findings of someone else. "Scientists theorize..." "Scientists conclude...", The author's POV is not mentioned at all here. Don't assume that the scientist's conclusion would be the same as the one the author makes.
How can I improve my ability to recognize when the paragraphs have no conclusion? I originally thought the scientists’ statement in Q2 was indicative of a conclusion
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4/5, 2 tripped me up
5/5 again, thank goodness. I kept double checking Q2, but I was right that it doesn't have an argument. I was thinking that the conclusion was the tidbit about the whole 'conclusion that red pandas separated blah blah blah' but it just sortof flows like an excerpt from an article not arguing anything.
@ManusWeber Same!! #2 felt like a trick question with the conclusion indicator words in there. Glad I wasn't the only one who was skeptical with this one.
The explanation for question 2 kinda sucks
Boom! 5/5 again :D
Question 4 is really confusing; is it because English is my second language?
@hataie I think i got it.
Sistine Chapel - this dress
Michelangelo - Dying company
so if none of the chemicals affect the original color of this dress, then the colors used by dying company will not be be gone by using this chemical.
@hataie Yes exactly right
5/5!
Is it ok to just skip all the fluff and look for the conclusion start such as searching for a "therefore" or "as a result". Thinking about the timing of the LSAT and looking to figure it out quick. If I find the conclusion quick I can skim the top to see what the premise would be. If I don't find the conclusion indicator then I backtrack to see what the sentence is asking like #2 where I can see that the author didn't come to their own conclusion. Should I be doing this now or should I be reading the whole thing?
@JosephTrischitta It was one of the strategies given in a previous section, to look for keywords like "therefore" I find this method to be reliable to be the first thing I look at, and then go the "get to the point" and then the final strategy
@SethRubin Awesome thank you, wasnt sure if that was meant for later but true and no harm learning this trick now.
so in #2 -- I think there was a conclusion but it seems like it was someone else's conclusion. So that means the author did not assert their own conclusion and instead reported someone else's conclusion..and so there is no conclusion...?
@cworth1512 Yeah, you got it.
Question 2 got me!! It seemed to me like there was some sort of support structure but I guess it was facts and claims and not premise and conclusion.
@SavanahHoffstein Same! I think this is my main issue in RC when there are multiple paragraphs and you have to find the premises and conclusions to multiple different arguments while also just taking the given information as given information. So tricky to discern the two sometimes.
4/5 again. Question 2 tripped me up. It seems like, as seen in 1, you can have an extended conclusion/multiple conclusions
Well I already see noticeable progress which is nice.
Question two baited me. rough to dissect assumptions in my head
Amazing…it’s becoming more interesting
Can there be multiple conclusions in one paragraph?
On question 1, the portion " unauthorized access to all computers at the same time could be virtually eliminated"is an intermediate conclusion correct?
because its supported by a premise and supports the ultimate conclusion simultaneously
@Jordanabel yes I think that's correct!
Note to self via Question #2: The author themselves need to make a conclusion, otherwise they are just reporting/relaying the opinions or findings of someone else. "Scientists theorize..." "Scientists conclude...", The author's POV is not mentioned at all here. Don't assume that the scientist's conclusion would be the same as the one the author makes.
@Cee🦋 Thank you Cee!
@Cee🦋 thank you
@Cee🦋 Ooooh I see now, thank you!
@Cee🦋 That’s very helpful to note. Thank you Cee!
@Cee🦋 brilliant! thanks!
@Cee🦋 this one really stumped me until I read this - thank you! :)
am i doing it wrong if i am not taking the full 30 min?
@akhan1693 I’m not either haha, idk if that’s a problem and I’m not being thorough enough or what… I’ve gotten them right though lol
i got owned on q2 icl
13/15
I got cooked on Q2
How can I improve my ability to recognize when the paragraphs have no conclusion? I originally thought the scientists’ statement in Q2 was indicative of a conclusion
They got me question 2 remember the author themself has to draw the conclusion.
@AngelaCMalone Thank you, this is the cleanest way to remember it.
15/15
so the word Furthermore in question one isn't considered a conclusion word
@jjmaiteh I interpreted it as it is "furthering" the evidence in the premise.
15/15