did this question before watching the video and got the right answer bc even tho i know that sa questions are sub-strengthen questions, it just clicked to me that they're sub-strengthen questions.
feels like i just had a major breakthrough in case anyone cares
I have also been struggling with this section. This video helped me out a lot though. Its from a current 7sage tutor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtA7nXgXuTY
Glad everyone in the comments is improving their SA skills! I, however, thought that the bridge between premises and conclusion needed to be built between calcium helping raise blood pressure. I diagramed the premises correctly, but got the conclusion mixed up. I did older people <-s-> blood pressure goes down w/ milk. I realize now that that's a conditional relationship while the premises were causal.
Does anyone else still struggle even though they feel like they are working very hard and trying their best? Just me?
this is an awesome lesson, the explanations for B and C provided some great clarification on S.A. vs N.A. For a second I even tricked myself into thinking B was a necc. assumption but it isn't as was explained. In fact, answer choice B itself requires a handful of assumptions to be true which defies the purpose of being a necc. assumption.
I selected the correct answer before watching the video but I don't understand his diagram conclusion. The stimulus says one glass of milk a day can lower their blood pressure.. so why is the causal arrow saying glass of milk---> rising BP??
& aren't we basically just suppose to find the answer that lists all the facts that leads us to the conclusion??? Like finding the missing premise. Maybe I need to rewatch the video idk.
I watched an SA question type recorded lesson by Clayton and he mentioned that anytime an SA passage involves a new idea/subject, your answer should also include that idea/subject.
From there, I was able to POE all irrelevant answers that contained either too strong verbiage, or not mention aforesaid subject, and thus choose an answer which reiterated a point within the passage/completed my identified flow.
watching this video literally just now made me realize why these questions are are called Sufficient assumptions because it literally what they are it just now clicked LOL.
#feedback 5 minutes in you write that a glass of milk -c-> rising blood pressure. This is the opposite of what the conclusion states. This should say lowers BP, unless I'm completely misunderstanding.
This is kind of a random question so late in the curriculum, but I have been wondering how one should map out these questions while taking the LSAT online. I know we are allowed scratch paper, but is it worth taking the extra time to physically map out these questions like J.Y.? It would be so much easier to do it directly on the exam... are there highlighting and underlining options? It is my first time taking it online. #help
I think there are highlighting and underlining options on the exam. I think the ideal situation is to be able to get good enough at causal reasoning so that you can map this stuff in your head, which you essentially get better by doing. But you're also given scratch paper which would allow you to map out these sort of questions.
I was confused by this question because I thought vitamin D deficiency was an extra premise not related to the conclusion. if milk is making up for calcium deficiency, why do we care about how that deficiency was caused?
@MayaVM I think JY used rising BP instead of lowered BP just so we can see that drinking milk has a causal impact on rising blood pressure, not that it causes the blood pressure to rise
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i had a fucking stroke reading A
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OH HE NEEED SOME MILK
LMFAO
I'm dying lololol
chat I finally got one
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I HATE THIS QUESTION
did this question before watching the video and got the right answer bc even tho i know that sa questions are sub-strengthen questions, it just clicked to me that they're sub-strengthen questions.
feels like i just had a major breakthrough in case anyone cares
It's finally clicking for me which makes me so excited, lets go we got this
I am having the most trouble on this section than any other. :( </3
I have also been struggling with this section. This video helped me out a lot though. Its from a current 7sage tutor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtA7nXgXuTY
Properties of part vs properties of whole was very useful!
shouldn't the conclusion say: glass of milk -c→ lower bp
- I'm confused as to why this isn't the case, help!
i thought this as well...
@iitwi2003 you're definitely right. I've been getting 90% of these right and this was the first time I watched a video and thought this is just wrong.
I did this question before the video, and I feel like I am finally at a point where I can intuitively pick the answer while reading the stimulus!!
Glad everyone in the comments is improving their SA skills! I, however, thought that the bridge between premises and conclusion needed to be built between calcium helping raise blood pressure. I diagramed the premises correctly, but got the conclusion mixed up. I did older people <-s-> blood pressure goes down w/ milk. I realize now that that's a conditional relationship while the premises were causal.
Does anyone else still struggle even though they feel like they are working very hard and trying their best? Just me?
this is an awesome lesson, the explanations for B and C provided some great clarification on S.A. vs N.A. For a second I even tricked myself into thinking B was a necc. assumption but it isn't as was explained. In fact, answer choice B itself requires a handful of assumptions to be true which defies the purpose of being a necc. assumption.
Yes! Agreed!
I feel like he spent too much time for super irrelevant answer choice (B)
I selected the correct answer before watching the video but I don't understand his diagram conclusion. The stimulus says one glass of milk a day can lower their blood pressure.. so why is the causal arrow saying glass of milk---> rising BP??
& aren't we basically just suppose to find the answer that lists all the facts that leads us to the conclusion??? Like finding the missing premise. Maybe I need to rewatch the video idk.
@Shannell_E'llan I was wondering the same why does the conclusion point to rising BP...? was it an error
I watched an SA question type recorded lesson by Clayton and he mentioned that anytime an SA passage involves a new idea/subject, your answer should also include that idea/subject.
From there, I was able to POE all irrelevant answers that contained either too strong verbiage, or not mention aforesaid subject, and thus choose an answer which reiterated a point within the passage/completed my identified flow.
Im so glad I got the question right I was so sure I got it wrong
watching this video literally just now made me realize why these questions are are called Sufficient assumptions because it literally what they are it just now clicked LOL.
#feedback 5 minutes in you write that a glass of milk -c-> rising blood pressure. This is the opposite of what the conclusion states. This should say lowers BP, unless I'm completely misunderstanding.
@DanielNahum Literally the first thing i noticed
This is kind of a random question so late in the curriculum, but I have been wondering how one should map out these questions while taking the LSAT online. I know we are allowed scratch paper, but is it worth taking the extra time to physically map out these questions like J.Y.? It would be so much easier to do it directly on the exam... are there highlighting and underlining options? It is my first time taking it online. #help
I think there are highlighting and underlining options on the exam. I think the ideal situation is to be able to get good enough at causal reasoning so that you can map this stuff in your head, which you essentially get better by doing. But you're also given scratch paper which would allow you to map out these sort of questions.
im afraid that JY has turned me into an SA God. I am killing these...even though it takes me 3+ minutes LOLLL
@magelladecle14499 pause
anyone else think this felt like a necessary assumption question?
@KhushyMandania YES
Anticipate "extra" info not necessarily mentioned in the stimulus, in the correct answer for Sufficient Assumption questions
"Useless Answer" JY LMFAO
@SafyTesfay "Fantastic! Ok, good for you." sent me
I was confused by this question because I thought vitamin D deficiency was an extra premise not related to the conclusion. if milk is making up for calcium deficiency, why do we care about how that deficiency was caused?
Someone please help me why did he change the conclusion to rising blood pressure..? I am so confused it says lowers blood pressure
@MayaVM I think JY used rising BP instead of lowered BP just so we can see that drinking milk has a causal impact on rising blood pressure, not that it causes the blood pressure to rise