question to fellow 7sagers unrelated exactly to this question but I am just wondering if you are getting the questions correct and under the time limit are you still watching the video explanations? I am trying to figure out how to best delegate my time.
@Kg7 Typically I will skip the video explanation and instead skim the written explanation below. I give particular attention to any answer choices that I spent extra time considering. Other times, I will watch the video section explaining the breakdown of the passage, because sometimes Jy does it in a clearer way than I did, but will then skip the answer choices if I was sure of my choice and got it quickly. Overall, the explanations are a tool to be used however you best see fit!
@Kg7 I almost always watch the videos to internalize the way JY thinks about the questions. I always get something out of it, especially if I'm on an roll answering intuitively. But I do watch them on 1.2 or 1.5x speed.
The thing that takes the most time is analyzing each wrong answer choice and figuring out why exactly it's wrong, but it feels like the most important step in the process.
Answer as intuitively and efficiently as I can
BR for my explanations and catch any mistakes
Watch video sped up
Drop in comments. Helping others understand helps me understand even better.
That's the process I'm falling into but it's taking a lot of time per day...
I'm worried about my timing! Even on easy questions, I often go over the recommended timing. I hope they give timing tips and practice later in the study plan?
for me the key is really to analyze the argument structure. It's something I probably should've been doing more consciously for other problems, and the NA questions really expose that weakness for me
Doing the contrapositive on each answer and seeing if it destroys the argument is what helped me with this one. For (E) if people could easily change their mind then that would destroy the entire argument.
i am forcing myself to 1) identify the argument structure + type of argument 2) summarize the argument in one sentence 3) find the gap 4) Answer -> i am getting caught up in the details and when i go to answer the question i am just lost and cant identify the gap.
Not all necessary assumption questions will have a gap (in fact many will not)! I think the previous lesson that showed the range of support was quite useful in this respect. Necessary assumption answers do not complete arguments, but rather save them from failing.
The correct answer choice is necessary for the conclusion to occur, but the vast majority of the time it will not cause the conclusion to occur. So there doesn't have to be a gap to fill!
Literally almost got this wrong because I thought the correct answer was too obvious. This section has me questioning everything even when I am confident
The easiest way for me personally to not get tripped up on these NA questions is to refuse to even look at any of the ACs until I've identified an assumption to hunt for. It's probably not the best for timing but it's helping me learn to get accurate.
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Question on blind review. If you get the question right, are you still doing blind review?
27 secs over but I got it
question to fellow 7sagers unrelated exactly to this question but I am just wondering if you are getting the questions correct and under the time limit are you still watching the video explanations? I am trying to figure out how to best delegate my time.
@Kg7 Typically I will skip the video explanation and instead skim the written explanation below. I give particular attention to any answer choices that I spent extra time considering. Other times, I will watch the video section explaining the breakdown of the passage, because sometimes Jy does it in a clearer way than I did, but will then skip the answer choices if I was sure of my choice and got it quickly. Overall, the explanations are a tool to be used however you best see fit!
smart! thank you :)
@Kg7 I almost always watch the videos to internalize the way JY thinks about the questions. I always get something out of it, especially if I'm on an roll answering intuitively. But I do watch them on 1.2 or 1.5x speed.
The thing that takes the most time is analyzing each wrong answer choice and figuring out why exactly it's wrong, but it feels like the most important step in the process.
Answer as intuitively and efficiently as I can
BR for my explanations and catch any mistakes
Watch video sped up
Drop in comments. Helping others understand helps me understand even better.
That's the process I'm falling into but it's taking a lot of time per day...
Is it taking others way over the time limit to answer these questions?
@EthanSegerman yeah I always get at least a minute or more over
I'm worried about my timing! Even on easy questions, I often go over the recommended timing. I hope they give timing tips and practice later in the study plan?
@TheodoraMace I have the same concern. If I try to beat the time, I'm more likely to get the answers wrong. Doing drills has helped a little though.
@TheodoraMace Same. Drilling is the way to go.
@TheodoraMace You have to trust that with practice, you'll start to pick up on patterns and answering the questions will become easier and quicker.
Maybe try to take some time to watch outside videos (Kevin Li's are great) that will explain how to spot patterns in right and wrong choices.
Finally, even though this was a 2/5 difficulty, I thank the Lord Jesus Christ for ONE DUB AFTER A WHOLE consecutive LOSS THIS WHOLE SECTION BRUH.
@Arthurxx I am in the exact same boat! I feel like I was doing well until this point... but in this section I'm falling for the trap answers.
for me the key is really to analyze the argument structure. It's something I probably should've been doing more consciously for other problems, and the NA questions really expose that weakness for me
lol, this is the first NA question i got right so far 🤡
Got it and saw it was a level 2 difficulty...
@siglallie334 Same, lol
got it in 53s but it was on weenie hut jr mode :/ so i feel it doesn't count
Got it right in 2 minutes flat but the target is like half of that 😩
Doing the contrapositive on each answer and seeing if it destroys the argument is what helped me with this one. For (E) if people could easily change their mind then that would destroy the entire argument.
I got this right, but it took me 5 minutes. UGHHH
im realizing these questions are easier if I just listen to my head.
As soon as I read this I thought "well some people might change their minds anyways"
So this became the assumption I was looking to nip in the bud.
took too long cause I was second guessing myself ughhhh
i am forcing myself to 1) identify the argument structure + type of argument 2) summarize the argument in one sentence 3) find the gap 4) Answer -> i am getting caught up in the details and when i go to answer the question i am just lost and cant identify the gap.
Not all necessary assumption questions will have a gap (in fact many will not)! I think the previous lesson that showed the range of support was quite useful in this respect. Necessary assumption answers do not complete arguments, but rather save them from failing.
The correct answer choice is necessary for the conclusion to occur, but the vast majority of the time it will not cause the conclusion to occur. So there doesn't have to be a gap to fill!
2/5 "easier question" but I NEEDED THIS WIN
what kind of reasoning is this?
Causal I believe
Literally almost got this wrong because I thought the correct answer was too obvious. This section has me questioning everything even when I am confident
same! I thought the answer was too "in your face"
Spent an extra few minutes gaslighting myself into thinking E was not right because it was 'too good'.
:|
FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY AFTER 1 AND A HALF LESSON COURSES I GOT ONE RIGHT.
I AM SO COOKED.
I love when they teach me different definitions for words I thought I knew
Got it right, thought it was decently challenging... see its a two star. I feel like an C class hero.
I think at this point, most of us feel that way :/
The easiest way for me personally to not get tripped up on these NA questions is to refuse to even look at any of the ACs until I've identified an assumption to hunt for. It's probably not the best for timing but it's helping me learn to get accurate.
Good tip. Thanks
Hilarious how i get the 4 stars and 5 stars right in this section but get the 2-star and 3-stars wrong
Got so humbled after seeing this question is a 2-star
Tbh when I read it I did not understand the missing area until I read E and went ohh okay...