im starting to understand why we're learning this. It helps us take out the fluff from all the language on an lsat question so we can focus on the information we actually need to focus on.
Kind of a silly request, but it would be great to have a short quiz with these type of lessons (skippable to to those who don't need it) just to solidify what we've learned. I haven't been in school in over 10 years and it would be helpful just to lock it all back into place in my brain.
@AribaHassan It is good to know when doing certain questions. I have noticed grammar indicators in NA and flaw questions the most. The Adverb can make a big difference in choosing the correct flaw to the conclusion.
@hd9764 Ehhh, I don't think that's the takeaway. I think the point is that the modifiers further limits the purpose/scope of a sentence. We should be paying attention to the exact terms in a sentence. The sentence "Cats sing" means something different than "Fat orange cats sing".
Worried about having time to focus on cutting out fluff like this during the lsat. I wish there was a pen and paper version of the exam so I could do all this by hand. Circle, highlight, cross things out, write info in the margins. I'm starting to feel like I maybe shot myself in the foot always doing things with pen and paper throughout college.
@Dom80 I use that method too, I feel like it helps my speed when reading the over complicated sentences on the LSAT. But then you get those questions and answers that hinge on one word like "most" or "always" and I feel like that is where I really need to focus on the grammar
@Ares it doesn't entirely matter, BUT the belle epoque, which is also known as the beautiful era, was a period in french history which saw a rise in artistic & scientific movements. this was between the franco-prussian war and WWI. in this time period is when the eiffel tower was built!
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where were you when I was in 3rd grade
For reals lol could've sworn my teacher did a week lesson on this and I still didn't get it until right now lol
I am French, and I approve fat cats singing French lullabies from the Belle Époque. Meow Meow.
Basically, the goal is to elucidate the "kernel" of complex sentences; thus, it's paramount to strip away modifiers from the stimulus.
im starting to understand why we're learning this. It helps us take out the fluff from all the language on an lsat question so we can focus on the information we actually need to focus on.
Kind of a silly request, but it would be great to have a short quiz with these type of lessons (skippable to to those who don't need it) just to solidify what we've learned. I haven't been in school in over 10 years and it would be helpful just to lock it all back into place in my brain.
@EJay start looking at any posters or writing in your vicinity and break down the sentences. kind of lame but different way to put practice into play~
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the cats singing lullabies example just makes me think of the tiktok sound of the cat meowing "what was i made for" by billie eilish
meow meow meow meow, meow meow meow meow, meoww
help we're applying to law school and now bonding over a sound on an app that is constantly under the threat of being banned
@ruth.olvera1027 Lol
these are some pretty fancy cats
#helpful. This is very helpful in RC so you just don't highlight everything and limit distration.
question- what's the difference between context and a modifier? would it technically be the same concept?
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@lsatstudent wow! that's really good work!
Modifiers in the subject: adjective
Modifiers in the predicate: adverbs
Modifiers that can be in both: prepositional phrases
Check me:
students love coffee
added modifiers:
College students in the communication department love dark roast coffee from Mexico.
How important is it to discern these specific grammar rules in the actual LSAT? Is this just a good thing to know?
@AribaHassan It is good to know when doing certain questions. I have noticed grammar indicators in NA and flaw questions the most. The Adverb can make a big difference in choosing the correct flaw to the conclusion.
@Juhleeyuh25 thanks!
Seems like modifiers are just any adverbs and adjectives?
So essentially, we just want to isolate the subject and predicate and pay less attention to the 7 parts of speech aka the modifiers?
@hd9764 Ehhh, I don't think that's the takeaway. I think the point is that the modifiers further limits the purpose/scope of a sentence. We should be paying attention to the exact terms in a sentence. The sentence "Cats sing" means something different than "Fat orange cats sing".
Worried about having time to focus on cutting out fluff like this during the lsat. I wish there was a pen and paper version of the exam so I could do all this by hand. Circle, highlight, cross things out, write info in the margins. I'm starting to feel like I maybe shot myself in the foot always doing things with pen and paper throughout college.
For me, I kind of think of the modifiers as adjectives
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@BreanaNunez Pretty much
As a former French teacher, I appreciate the example :-)
“Fat cats trained by parisian divas begrudgingly sing french lullabies from the belle epoque”
Subsets for the subject: fat and trained bt parisian divas
Subsets of the predicate: begrudgingly, french, from the belle epoque
everyone still on board ?
@Lia24788 yes and no. I just equate modifiers to 'white noise' in a sentence. That's the best I can muster.
@Dom80 I use that method too, I feel like it helps my speed when reading the over complicated sentences on the LSAT. But then you get those questions and answers that hinge on one word like "most" or "always" and I feel like that is where I really need to focus on the grammar
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Tough men gladly fight criminals.
Tough = adjective (modifying the subject) --> Men
Gladly = Adverb (modifying the verb) --> Fight
Criminals = Object. The Object (Criminals) is being acted on by the verb (fight). Fight --> Criminals.
Whats the belle epoque?
@Ares it doesn't entirely matter, BUT the belle epoque, which is also known as the beautiful era, was a period in french history which saw a rise in artistic & scientific movements. this was between the franco-prussian war and WWI. in this time period is when the eiffel tower was built!
Example:
Dogs lay eggs
Goofy dogs lay eggs
Goofy dogs trained by Norwegian acrobats lay eggs
Goofy hairy dogs trained by Norwegian acrobats belligerently lay speckled eggs in Estonia.