I understand the explanation entirely, but i just want to poke some holes and ask for some clarity lol. The definition of an object is "the thing that the verb acts upon". With this in mind, why is archeologists the object and not be the noun?
Oh no, my writer brain is always stuck on active voice, aka passive sentences are bad. Here, I assumed archaeologists were the subject since they are the ones doing a thing, aka discovering. “Developments” cannot “do” a thing (“helped” in this case), so I missed all of this.
Question about the modifiers with the Cat sentence. Why is lullabies not a modifier to sing? doesn't it specify sing down more from just singing anything? Why is it in a "higher" categories with the subject (cats) and the predicate (sing)? Couldn't just sing aloen be the object?
#feedback I had some difficulty with this lesson, gelling all the lessons together. I feel as if a skill builder like "identifying the kernel of a sentence" would be helpful to students so they feel more confident moving forward to the next lesson. Maybe a skill builder where you identify subject, object, predicate, noun, verb, etc. in complex sentences.
This section is underrated! (I know it's not rated at all lol but if it were, I can see beginners trying to skip over this vital lesson) especially for those who struggle with the RC sections. This is vital to helping us find main points too. Which we learn sets the tone for the remaining questions on a passage.
I BUILT THIS SENTENCE, ME, BRICK BY BRICK, AND ILL BE DAMNED IF I LET YOU MODIFY IT JUST CAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY ANOTHER PREDICATE LEAVES INFORMATION TO BE DESIRED
How come "discover tombs of pharaohs once thought to be mythical" is a modifier of help and not archeologists? I would think the modifier attaches to archeologists because it's closer to it.
OMG you tricked me good... My heart sunk when I saw that first line under the black haha I'm like "it's hopeless" -- phew!! I'm not a lost cause like I thought
Had me there for a second when I revealed the text & it said archaeologists -- got me over here thinking damn I REALLY need to brush up on my grammar when I was right all along :')
As you see J.Y. do in real time. One of the best things you can do when breaking down complex sentence is ask yourself questions as you read the sentence.
Take the following sentence: The National Basketball Players Association (NBPA) (What the heck is this?) representatives (Okay, I see, the main subject is "representatives" but are we talking about all representatives? No. The subject-noun "The National Basketball Players Associations indicate that we are talking about a sub-set of representatives, the ones from the NBPA)(Okay, sounds good. Are we talking about all the representatives of the NBPA? Let's see.) that negotiated (Subject-verb) relentlessly and sought (Subject-verb) legal representation (I see. We are talking about a further subset of representatives, the ones that were relentless in their negotiations and the ones that sought legal representation. Mind you, this could be all of them, but it doesn't have to be.) agreed (Predicate verb)to a appropriate collective bargaining agreement (Predicate noun! Wait, was this agreement good or bad? Well, the word "appropriate" modifies the predicate noun and tells us that it was a good agreement)(is there further information I need to take away from this predicate phrase?) in a record setting time that ultimately led to unprecedent salaries (Yes there is! It set a record and was unprecedent!).
Strip everything away: Representatives agreed to a collective bargaining agreement.
Here is all the modifiers:
Representatives from the NBPA
Also, reps that negotiated and sought legal help.
Agreed to an appropriate agreement.
That was record setting and never done before!
Look all of the work we just did to break down one sentence. This is why practice is so important! Just like we make conditional logic intuitive, let's make grammar intuitive!
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So....I got this soooo wrong. My God. I thought archeologist was the subject. Developments was not intuitive.
Cooked
twin we gotta lock in
I understand the explanation entirely, but i just want to poke some holes and ask for some clarity lol. The definition of an object is "the thing that the verb acts upon". With this in mind, why is archeologists the object and not be the noun?
Oh no, my writer brain is always stuck on active voice, aka passive sentences are bad. Here, I assumed archaeologists were the subject since they are the ones doing a thing, aka discovering. “Developments” cannot “do” a thing (“helped” in this case), so I missed all of this.
i enjoyed this one alot
Why is discover not the main verb? How do you determine that it's helped?
Modifiers create complexity. Complexity leads to confusion. Strip away all the modifiers to see the kernel of a sentence.
1. First ask what is the subject? What is the sentence about?
2. Then ask about the predicate: Where is the verb? What is the subject doing?
#feedback the subtitles are slightly off time about halfway through the video lesson.
Why isn't it: hardware discover tombs?
OOh, this was a good one. Im starting to understand
Question about the modifiers with the Cat sentence. Why is lullabies not a modifier to sing? doesn't it specify sing down more from just singing anything? Why is it in a "higher" categories with the subject (cats) and the predicate (sing)? Couldn't just sing aloen be the object?
#feedback I had some difficulty with this lesson, gelling all the lessons together. I feel as if a skill builder like "identifying the kernel of a sentence" would be helpful to students so they feel more confident moving forward to the next lesson. Maybe a skill builder where you identify subject, object, predicate, noun, verb, etc. in complex sentences.
This section is underrated! (I know it's not rated at all lol but if it were, I can see beginners trying to skip over this vital lesson) especially for those who struggle with the RC sections. This is vital to helping us find main points too. Which we learn sets the tone for the remaining questions on a passage.
im cooked
Why wouldn't tombs be the object?
Sentences on the LSAT are like Ogres, which are like onions. Get it?
I BUILT THIS SENTENCE, ME, BRICK BY BRICK, AND ILL BE DAMNED IF I LET YOU MODIFY IT JUST CAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY ANOTHER PREDICATE LEAVES INFORMATION TO BE DESIRED
How come "discover tombs of pharaohs once thought to be mythical" is a modifier of help and not archeologists? I would think the modifier attaches to archeologists because it's closer to it.
BRICK BY BRICK
How can we avoid from thinking that “discover” is a main verb instead of helped?
Isn't the verb in the archaeologists sentence "helped discover" as helped is a catenative verb (linking verb) ?
OMG you tricked me good... My heart sunk when I saw that first line under the black haha I'm like "it's hopeless" -- phew!! I'm not a lost cause like I thought
Had me there for a second when I revealed the text & it said archaeologists -- got me over here thinking damn I REALLY need to brush up on my grammar when I was right all along :')
As you see J.Y. do in real time. One of the best things you can do when breaking down complex sentence is ask yourself questions as you read the sentence.
Take the following sentence: The National Basketball Players Association (NBPA) (What the heck is this?) representatives (Okay, I see, the main subject is "representatives" but are we talking about all representatives? No. The subject-noun "The National Basketball Players Associations indicate that we are talking about a sub-set of representatives, the ones from the NBPA) (Okay, sounds good. Are we talking about all the representatives of the NBPA? Let's see.) that negotiated (Subject-verb) relentlessly and sought (Subject-verb) legal representation (I see. We are talking about a further subset of representatives, the ones that were relentless in their negotiations and the ones that sought legal representation. Mind you, this could be all of them, but it doesn't have to be.) agreed (Predicate verb)to a appropriate collective bargaining agreement (Predicate noun! Wait, was this agreement good or bad? Well, the word "appropriate" modifies the predicate noun and tells us that it was a good agreement) (is there further information I need to take away from this predicate phrase?) in a record setting time that ultimately led to unprecedent salaries (Yes there is! It set a record and was unprecedent!).
Strip everything away: Representatives agreed to a collective bargaining agreement.
Here is all the modifiers:
Representatives from the NBPA
Also, reps that negotiated and sought legal help.
Agreed to an appropriate agreement.
That was record setting and never done before!
Look all of the work we just did to break down one sentence. This is why practice is so important! Just like we make conditional logic intuitive, let's make grammar intuitive!