I wish I was just naturally gifted at the LSAT. Instead, I'm hunched over these questions like Coraline's dad trying to score a 30-point increase. Maybe RC will be my saving grace cries
after 4 attempts finally got 5/5 but this is on medium I will be done with the curriculum ina week or so so I will have an additional 7 weeks to get better at drilling and understanding questions I will get a 180
#feedback is there a way to make it so that the questions in these end-of-section drills are not repeats of questions that were already used in lessons or "you try" questions throughout the section? This has been a recurring issue for me throughout the core curriculum
Here are the ones that I gathered through the lessons. I could be missing a few...
- Part to whole flaw
- Circular Reasoning
- Sufficiency/Necessary Confusion
- Straw Manning
- Steel/Stone Manning
- Sample bias
- Causal Logic
- Source Attack
- Change in meaning of words
I don't remember how it was classified, but another is the distinction between attacking somebody's argument and proving that their conclusion is true or false.
I managed to get 5/5 on the hardest difficulty, but I still need more practice. The most helpful resource for identifying different flaws was 'The Loophole' by Ellen Cassidy.
For reference, here's a link to the 16 Classic Flaws flashcards I found online:
Hi! I bought this book but can't decide whether to start from the beginning or just use it as needed. I'm not sure I have enough time to devote to the book to complete every page, in your experience are sections in isolation still useful or do you recommend reading the entire book through? Thanks in advance!
I got 2/5 on the first try because I wanted to try answering the question based on intuition (just as an experiment).
Then, I tried again and got 5/5 because I analyzed the right and the wrong answers. I spent the necessary time to arrive at the right question as well.
Lesson (at least for me): Do not rely on intuition to answer the question because it won't get me anywhere. Instead, understand the question and answers regardless of how much time you spend on it. I will get better with a lot of practice!
Well, after constantly getting lvl 4 & 5 questions right during the curriculum, I somehow scored a 1/5 and 3/5 on BR. Can't even feel a pang of sadness anymore, just numb to it all
5/5! I can't stress how important it is to build the habit of explaining why every wrong AC is wrong like J.Y. does. It's completely changed my ability to see through the forest to the correct answer.
@ImanMozaffarian do you have any other tips for looking through the answer choices, I feel like I can read the stimulus and understand it but once I start reading answer choices my brain blocks
@LayalBazzi4 There's a lot of great strategies and each has it's time and place (flaw prephrasing, refusing to choose wrong answers, negation tests, abstracting, etc), but if you don't have the stamina to take in hundreds of arguments and thoroughly comprehend them, then there's no use beating yourself for not using strategies well enough.
Building up your stamina and valuing good studying over mindless word slop is invaluable. Simple habits like reading dense academic journals and pausing every 5 minutes to summarize what I just read have helped me have increased clarity in reading comprehension and argument analysis. Feel free to DM me if you want to chat about studying! I'd love to hear about your journey.
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This is why I should just never feel confident lol.
I was undefeated through the lessons...felt good about the drill...then go 1/5.
Though only having difficult questions felt mean and disrespectful lol
I wish I was just naturally gifted at the LSAT. Instead, I'm hunched over these questions like Coraline's dad trying to score a 30-point increase. Maybe RC will be my saving grace cries
@Jacq Coraline's dad I'm crying
after 4 attempts finally got 5/5 but this is on medium I will be done with the curriculum ina week or so so I will have an additional 7 weeks to get better at drilling and understanding questions I will get a 180
yes, you will!!
2/5. sigh,
#feedback is there a way to make it so that the questions in these end-of-section drills are not repeats of questions that were already used in lessons or "you try" questions throughout the section? This has been a recurring issue for me throughout the core curriculum
Is there a list of all the types of argument flaws that were covered in this section? #feedback #help
agreed!
Check out this article: https://7sage.com/19-common-lsat-argument-flaws-that-students-overlook/
#feedback This would be so helpful
Here are the ones that I gathered through the lessons. I could be missing a few...
- Part to whole flaw
- Circular Reasoning
- Sufficiency/Necessary Confusion
- Straw Manning
- Steel/Stone Manning
- Sample bias
- Causal Logic
- Source Attack
- Change in meaning of words
I don't remember how it was classified, but another is the distinction between attacking somebody's argument and proving that their conclusion is true or false.
I just found this video that outlines common flaws really well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK6rurhc_5M
It is called Famous Flaws | LSAT Logical Reasoning on the LSAT Lab channel
@siannais that means you're doing well i'm pretty sure!! like they give you harder ones depending on your skill level, so good job!
@SusanLeifker Well I only got 2/5 right so I can't be doing that well 😭
@siannais 😂😂 oh ... well at least you know the flaw questions only get easier than those!!
i got 5/5 and have nothing to attribute that to other than the lord and savior jesus christ himself having my back
@plsendhelp love this
@plsendhelp Amen. God is good.
I managed to get 5/5 on the hardest difficulty, but I still need more practice. The most helpful resource for identifying different flaws was 'The Loophole' by Ellen Cassidy.
For reference, here's a link to the 16 Classic Flaws flashcards I found online:
https://quizlet.com/527617801/lsatloophole-16-classic-flaws-flash-cards/
Hi! I bought this book but can't decide whether to start from the beginning or just use it as needed. I'm not sure I have enough time to devote to the book to complete every page, in your experience are sections in isolation still useful or do you recommend reading the entire book through? Thanks in advance!
I got 2/5 on the first try because I wanted to try answering the question based on intuition (just as an experiment).
Then, I tried again and got 5/5 because I analyzed the right and the wrong answers. I spent the necessary time to arrive at the right question as well.
Lesson (at least for me): Do not rely on intuition to answer the question because it won't get me anywhere. Instead, understand the question and answers regardless of how much time you spend on it. I will get better with a lot of practice!
Take it or leave it!
5/5 FIRST TRY AYYYYYEEEEEEE :D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just setting me up bro💔
1/5 and I only got the easiest question correct - we got some work to do
I got like most of the exercises correct but only 2/5 of the drill correct ugh
Well, after constantly getting lvl 4 & 5 questions right during the curriculum, I somehow scored a 1/5 and 3/5 on BR. Can't even feel a pang of sadness anymore, just numb to it all
Ending the study session with a 5/5 BLESS
wow my first 5/5 :)
5/5!!!! this is my favorite section of LR
I got humbled here. But that's ok. That's how we get better.
AT: 3/5, BR: 5/5...I'll take what I can get lol
MY FIRST 5/5 ON THE FIRST TRY LETS GO
5/5 and I am overly proud of myself.
My first 5/5 so excited! 😆
@dede_g_10 ME TOO!
@AhmadAwan yayyy!
5/5! I can't stress how important it is to build the habit of explaining why every wrong AC is wrong like J.Y. does. It's completely changed my ability to see through the forest to the correct answer.
@ImanMozaffarian do you have any other tips for looking through the answer choices, I feel like I can read the stimulus and understand it but once I start reading answer choices my brain blocks
@LayalBazzi4 There's a lot of great strategies and each has it's time and place (flaw prephrasing, refusing to choose wrong answers, negation tests, abstracting, etc), but if you don't have the stamina to take in hundreds of arguments and thoroughly comprehend them, then there's no use beating yourself for not using strategies well enough.
Building up your stamina and valuing good studying over mindless word slop is invaluable. Simple habits like reading dense academic journals and pausing every 5 minutes to summarize what I just read have helped me have increased clarity in reading comprehension and argument analysis. Feel free to DM me if you want to chat about studying! I'd love to hear about your journey.
@ImanMozaffarian TRUE TRUE TRUE.
actual 4/5 no blind review