I am a first gen student, was never good at school and recently found what I was meant to be in life after a long time evaluating myself. I always had a love for law, but never thought I could actually do it. This first question I got right! We can do this!!!
I just noticed this question was posted at the very beginning of the curriculum, and I felt compelled to write this message.
This is my second (or third) time going through the entire curriculum, so I understand that some (or many) of you might feel overwhelmed when facing this question for the first time. You might even feel tempted to leave a comment expressing your frustration. Trust me, I have been there. But let me reassure you: I wholeheartedly agree with J.Y. on this one—I wish every LSAT question were like this.
If this is your first time encountering this question and you chose the wrong answer, I want you to know that it is completely fine. You have only just started your LSAT preparation! As you work through the curriculum and learn the foundational concepts, you will come to see why this question is purely mechanical and not as complicated as it seems (once you know the tricks you will learn here).
Stay motivated. Easier said than done, right? There will be happy moments during your LSAT studies, but also moments when you will feel stuck, or even like quitting. While that would mean less competition for me (a little sarcasm never hurts), please do not give up! By sticking with the curriculum, you will experience plenty of “ah-ha!” moments where concepts finally click. Listen carefully to J.Y.’s explanations—even when they feel long—because his in-depth analysis and extra exercises are invaluable. Trust his method; it works (and no, 7Sage does not pay me to say that).
When I started, my diagnostic score was 150—not terrible, but not great. With 7Sage's help, I scored 160 (75th percentile) on my first LSAT, and 166 (90th percentile) on my second. English is not my first language, so if I could achieve this, I know you can too. I am preparing to take the LSAT for a third time to aim even higher, and I owe my progress to this curriculum and consistent practice.
My advice? Truly understand the curriculum—do not just skim it. Take Practice Tests, do the Blind Review (you will learn about this soon), and embrace every mistake as a learning opportunity. Practice is the real secret to mastering the LSAT.
To all my comrades, even though you are technically my competition, I sincerely wish you the best in your LSAT journey. Do not get discouraged, do not convince yourself you are “bad” at this, and most importantly, do not quit. Nearly everyone faces moments of doubt. Push through them, learn from every challenge, and keep practicing. If you can read this right now, it means you are already on your way to master this LSAT.
Good luck to all of you, and I hope to see you on the benches of one of the best law schools soon.
This is my third time going through the curriculum.
The first time, I gave up on Logic Games.
The second time, I gave up on Must Be True questions (ironically, my third attempt with v2 started with MBT, and I thought something was going wrong).
Benjamin is absolutely right: I’m trying to go back to each question as many times as necessary until I completely understand it. You need to be very patient when studying for the LSAT. Once you grasp the logic behind the questions, it will ultimately help you speed up during the actual exam. I’m really taking my time to review the materials I didn’t understand until I fully comprehend them.
I hope this encourages first-timers and gives them a bit of hope. I’m still trying, and I love the feeling of achievement when I finally understand certain parts and conquer each section, step by step!
I've come to realize that the classic LSAT trap really is dressing up simple, everyday logic in dense conditional statements, but answer can so often very well be the simplest one.
The argument I think relies on a "chain reaction" of events:
Bean prices go up: The shop must raise prices to account.
Prices go up: Either sales drop OR they have to start selling non-coffee products.
Sales drop: Profitability falls.
Selling non-coffee products: Profitability also falls.
Because both paths (that is, dropping sales or switching to non-coffee product) lead to less profit, the end result is inevitable. If bean prices continue to increase, profitability will always decrease
maybe im just tired but saying that coffee shops will have to begin selling noncoffe products OR the coffee sales will decrease, to then say that selling those noncoffee products will decrease the shoppes overall profitability is contradicting and messed me up when trying to think about this "logically".
This helped me realize that I have been having with confusing sufficient condition and necessary conditions. Explaining that you can't go "backwards" against an arrow now makes sense why I selected the incorrect answer and further why C is the correct answer.
my biggest issue here is time, I've been getting better at at figuring out the logic, but not quick enough. does anyone have any tips on getting quicker?
In my module, I completed the grammar section before, but when referring to these questions now, it's hard to break it up with all this new info. Any suggestions? Kinda feels like I just forgot all the grammar when I literally just studied it :/
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what the actual hell was this?
@TeklaCo real talk.
I am a first gen student, was never good at school and recently found what I was meant to be in life after a long time evaluating myself. I always had a love for law, but never thought I could actually do it. This first question I got right! We can do this!!!
Bro fck your coffee and your beans lmao
what the helly
this f'd me up
Hello to all my 7Sage comrades,
I just noticed this question was posted at the very beginning of the curriculum, and I felt compelled to write this message.
This is my second (or third) time going through the entire curriculum, so I understand that some (or many) of you might feel overwhelmed when facing this question for the first time. You might even feel tempted to leave a comment expressing your frustration. Trust me, I have been there. But let me reassure you: I wholeheartedly agree with J.Y. on this one—I wish every LSAT question were like this.
If this is your first time encountering this question and you chose the wrong answer, I want you to know that it is completely fine. You have only just started your LSAT preparation! As you work through the curriculum and learn the foundational concepts, you will come to see why this question is purely mechanical and not as complicated as it seems (once you know the tricks you will learn here).
Stay motivated. Easier said than done, right? There will be happy moments during your LSAT studies, but also moments when you will feel stuck, or even like quitting. While that would mean less competition for me (a little sarcasm never hurts), please do not give up! By sticking with the curriculum, you will experience plenty of “ah-ha!” moments where concepts finally click. Listen carefully to J.Y.’s explanations—even when they feel long—because his in-depth analysis and extra exercises are invaluable. Trust his method; it works (and no, 7Sage does not pay me to say that).
When I started, my diagnostic score was 150—not terrible, but not great. With 7Sage's help, I scored 160 (75th percentile) on my first LSAT, and 166 (90th percentile) on my second. English is not my first language, so if I could achieve this, I know you can too. I am preparing to take the LSAT for a third time to aim even higher, and I owe my progress to this curriculum and consistent practice.
My advice? Truly understand the curriculum—do not just skim it. Take Practice Tests, do the Blind Review (you will learn about this soon), and embrace every mistake as a learning opportunity. Practice is the real secret to mastering the LSAT.
To all my comrades, even though you are technically my competition, I sincerely wish you the best in your LSAT journey. Do not get discouraged, do not convince yourself you are “bad” at this, and most importantly, do not quit. Nearly everyone faces moments of doubt. Push through them, learn from every challenge, and keep practicing. If you can read this right now, it means you are already on your way to master this LSAT.
Good luck to all of you, and I hope to see you on the benches of one of the best law schools soon.
Best,
Benjamin
This is my third time going through the curriculum.
The first time, I gave up on Logic Games.
The second time, I gave up on Must Be True questions (ironically, my third attempt with v2 started with MBT, and I thought something was going wrong).
Benjamin is absolutely right: I’m trying to go back to each question as many times as necessary until I completely understand it. You need to be very patient when studying for the LSAT. Once you grasp the logic behind the questions, it will ultimately help you speed up during the actual exam. I’m really taking my time to review the materials I didn’t understand until I fully comprehend them.
I hope this encourages first-timers and gives them a bit of hope. I’m still trying, and I love the feeling of achievement when I finally understand certain parts and conquer each section, step by step!
the grammar is cooking me gotta be better
I HATE YOU LSAT
@SwagOD 😭
I got B I didn't consider the fact that it doesn't go both ways
@kaleighh.04 me too ughhhh
this is horrid
I've come to realize that the classic LSAT trap really is dressing up simple, everyday logic in dense conditional statements, but answer can so often very well be the simplest one.
The argument I think relies on a "chain reaction" of events:
Bean prices go up: The shop must raise prices to account.
Prices go up: Either sales drop OR they have to start selling non-coffee products.
Sales drop: Profitability falls.
Selling non-coffee products: Profitability also falls.
Because both paths (that is, dropping sales or switching to non-coffee product) lead to less profit, the end result is inevitable. If bean prices continue to increase, profitability will always decrease
I actually loved this explanation
maybe im just tired but saying that coffee shops will have to begin selling noncoffe products OR the coffee sales will decrease, to then say that selling those noncoffee products will decrease the shoppes overall profitability is contradicting and messed me up when trying to think about this "logically".
This helped me realize that I have been having with confusing sufficient condition and necessary conditions. Explaining that you can't go "backwards" against an arrow now makes sense why I selected the incorrect answer and further why C is the correct answer.
i remember encountering this while drilling... now after going through the lesson plan, i FINALLY understand it
my biggest issue here is time, I've been getting better at at figuring out the logic, but not quick enough. does anyone have any tips on getting quicker?
@museum same here :(
@museum more practice
you start to figure out the pattern in the answer choices
This took me like 30 mins to get it wrong
I'm not taking LSAT anymore
@JJsatonanL Hahaha i laughed
so i got it right... it just took me 10 extra minutes lol
I got it right the first time in 1:47!!!! I tried not to over think it and that strategy helped the most!
@And.m3d sameeeee!
@And.m3d omg exact same time to the second to get it right!
grateful for my math degree rn lol
the right answer makes sense after I get the question wrong...oof
22 minutes to get it right... i'm still sweating.
In my module, I completed the grammar section before, but when referring to these questions now, it's hard to break it up with all this new info. Any suggestions? Kinda feels like I just forgot all the grammar when I literally just studied it :/
@isabellagirjikian Same... have you figured out a helpful method yet?
@VerdaSlay I haven't unfortunately yet
This question was hard but surprisingly I GOT IT RIGHT!