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> @jy-ping said:
> I love how this eight year old chat got revived lol
lol "time is flat circle"
I love how this eight year old chat got revived lol
> @ramphalkaren58 said:
> Just a question about the LSATFlex.... I know that the test is composed of 3 scored section but is there also a written unscored section?
Yes. Your score isn't released until you've taken the written section.
Just a question about the LSATFlex.... I know that the test is composed of 3 scored section but is there also a written unscored section?
@gilesppb
What was your approach for RC during BR after taking the PT?
I think the first step is recognizing they happen. "Knowing is half the battle" and all that. After you realize an error has been made, try and figure out why it happened. A lot of people chalk it up to a "stupid mistake" and then just ignore it. But for 95% of errors, there's an underlying reason why you made the mistake, and if you don't realize it and try to correct for it, you'll likely make it again.
The best time to do this kind of analytical work is during the BR, or the post-BR (where you check your answers and see what, if anything, went wrong). The more time you spend thinking about the error in review, the more likely you'll be to recognize the trap you're about to fall into during the test itself.
awesome thanks for the tips Justin and JY!
This might seem too basic for you, but what is your process for minimizing their recurrence? Is this where blind review simply comes into play? I find blind review works better for LG, where it's harder to remember the answers, than LR or RC...
""People" who get 180s are actually robots." Does this only count for the actual test day or did Deckard let my little secret out?
@wu12345991 Even on the few prep-tests I got a 180 on, errors happened. As JY said, realizing when you've made them and minimizing their recurrence is the name of the game.
Dang I just took the June 2012 LSAT and bombed it. I scored 7 points under my average... With the LSAT just a few days away, this is kinda unsettling... On games, I messed up because I read 1 rule wrong, and doing so messed up everything on that game and sucked up a lot of time. on RC, I spent too much time in the passages, and ran out of time before I even hit the last passage! I only missed 2 during the first LR section, but then games messed my mojo up so much on the last LR, that i went -6 :(
Hopefully I can learn from this and get back to my average before June 10th! As for everyone else, now is the time to persevere! I once lost a wrestling match because I eased up in the last period when I had a comfortable 10 point lead, lets not let that happen to us!
@camcintyre459 McIntyre I would reset my analog watch after each section, to 12:00. I would waste time doing math before the next section, if I were to write the start and end time.
Do you suggest re-setting your analog watch after each section so that you can visually see the 35 min countdown, e.g. 12:00 to 12:35? Or just writing start and end time (real time) at the top of each section?
@wu12345991 Um, coffee or cocaine? Sorry, that's a lame joke. Please don't take cocaine unless you're a badass rockstar.
We are error prone. I think Blind Review helps to uncover errors we're prone to and by bringing those errors up to the level of conscious awareness, minimize them. Meditation helps too. But at the end of the day, I think we have to accept that we are going to make errors. I still make errors. "People" who get 180s are actually robots.
@jackmf419475 Yes, please look at Games from the late 50's and 60's. There's no point to emphasize or deemphasize any particular Game. The recent ones are all equally important.
Hey JY, was wondering if you had any thoughts about maximizing focus and clarity of thought during the test. During blind review, I caught 4 mistakes - points I really could have used. Examining answers without the pressure of time increases my clarity of thought, but, obviously, I won't have that luxury during the actual test.
Hi J.Y any particular games that you would recommend we look at before the exam?
That's a fine idea. Do recent ones.
Thanks J.Y.!
The few days leading up to the LSAT, I'm planning on just doing some light studying. Individual sections and some review. I'm not going to take a practice test in the 4 days leading up to the test because I'd rather not burn out... would you recommend doing sections that are recent or are older sections okay (29-38)? In the month leading up to the LSAT, I've been using recent practice tests (57-65).
Everyone should read this: http://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/day-of-test.asp
A quartz, battery powered analog (meaning no digital display) is fine.
Score cancellation policy: http://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/lsat-cancellation.asp
@deannaorders666
It's better if you just get a watch with a bezel http://www.amazon.com/Casio-MRW200H-1BV-Sport-Analog-Watch/dp/B005JVP0LE/ref=sr_1_6?s=watches&ie=UTF8&qid=1369513671&sr=1-6 . Before each section, all you have to do is turn the bezel (the outer ring on the watch with the numbers) and match up the arrow with the long hand. The numbers on the bezel represent minutes.
And from what I know, I don't think they tell you what section is experimental. Like if you get two analytical reasoning sections, you won't know which one is experimental and which one is scored. Don't know if this is true though.
Another question for you guys - the experimental section.... is it much different than what we are used to? I'd like to be prepared if it's REALLY different so I don't freak!
I have some questions about that as well.. I read the guidelines and all it says is 'analog watch' (non-beeping, non-electronic, etc).
I really want to get one of the lsattimers (www.lsattimer.com) because I think I'll be overall less anxious, but I'm a bit hesitant, because it's a timer and not really a watch... they say that it meets all the standards of the LSAT. Does anyone know anything about that?
Thanks!
Another question about test logistics:
Are analog --so one that shows the minute and hour hand-- (vs. digital) and non-beeping the only requirements for the watch we can bring into the test? I'm pretty sure that's all I found on LSAC's "Day of the Test" page...
My watch shows the date, similar to this watch (although this watch is NOT the one I have): http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWPR22C?psc=1
And it is quartz-run, which means it has batteries, I believe... is that okay too?
Haha sorry, I'm just really paranoid about the situation as I rely heavily on my watch.
Hi, this is not really about the test itself, but the info about the test...
1.are we really not allowed to bring bags to the testing site?!
2. What time should I probably go(i know it says be there at latest 12:30 but should I be there earlier?) & what time will we get out (with the proctor reading directions etc..)?
3. If we want to cancel our scores, can we do it after the test (if so, how much time do we have for consideration) or do we have to cancel it at the spot?
Thanks!
@wu12345991 :)
excellent. i like this a lot. I'm getting the sense your answer will be "practice," but do you have any specific suggestions for knowing if splitting will trigger a cascade of inferences?
@wu12345991, yes, save some! Like 3 from the 60's just in case.
@wu12345991 I haven't come up with any, but maybe there are. There are way too many ways to split the master game board up into sub-game boards. Consider an In/Out game with a "not both" rule b/t A and B. You could split into 3 subs, (1) A in, B out; (2) B in, A out; (3) A and B both out. Do you do it? That depends on the other rules. If you can't push more inferences then maybe it doesn't make sense. But if splitting triggers a cascade of inferences, then you definitely split.
That's why it's so important to write out the sub-game boards as much as you can during review.