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Hey, curious as to what will be going on with 7sage with these changes... @"Dillon A. Wright" @"J.Y. Ping"
http://lsatblog.blogspot.ca/2015/03/lsac-bans-lsat-preptest-pdf-sales.html
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Hey, curious as to what will be going on with 7sage with these changes... @"Dillon A. Wright" @"J.Y. Ping"
http://lsatblog.blogspot.ca/2015/03/lsac-bans-lsat-preptest-pdf-sales.html
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Sorry, all gone!
Kudos to all the administrators and staff for their gracious (and generous) handling of these changes. @alan-91620 @7sagestudentservices @jy-ping
PDFs are no longer available for download. I hope you got everything you needed!
I already have the course but wanted to buy the Premium packet and was wondering if I do buy the Premium packet ( like right now) would I gain access to the PDF on that packet or are they gone.
@7491 We can't send them, sorry. Try again here:
http://classic.7sage.com/download-pdfs/
If you're still having issues, follow these steps:
http://classic.7sage.com/clear-cache
@7491 Which browser are you using? You could try the free Chrome extension "Download Master" which allows you to download multiple links on a page. This worked for me and others (Mac and PC).
I tried to download them but had some technical difficulties, is there anyway you can email them to me please?? Or where else can I get them??
Hey everyone, the PDFs are officially off the site now. We're sorry for the inconvenience. I hope you all got the PDFs you needed!
If you already have a course, you can continue to download them until 11:59PM EST (about 19 hours from the time of this post). Downloads were supposed to stop a few hours ago - this extra availability is a grace period to help account for time zones, confusion, etc.
looks like i only have 40 mins left =/
Nope, I was wrong. They're off.
Hey guys/gals, does this mean that up to 11:59pm today (4-20-2015) all downloading ceases -or are we good tomorrow too and are we talking EST?
@j1sultan706 we can download through the 21st, not the 23rd.
@sharlenej92978 they stay !
so the video explanations of the PTs stay?
@j1sultan706 through the 21st**
To be crystal clear, we can download through the 23rd without issue, correct? As a thought, it might be nice to send an email out to all the users who have been MIA for a while, like myself, so they don't miss this news. 7 Sage is great and I'm sure we will all get though this. Thanks for all you do J.Y. and Alan!
Whoops, I wasn't clear at all - sorry! I edited my comment so it should make more sense now. The discount goes from now until the 21st!
@alan-91620 THIS IS WHY YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST!!!!
Y'all amaze me.
@alan-91620 WOO HOO!!!!
Of course, make sure to download the PDF immediately.
Okay this is totally awesome, and I'm so happy I was patient to wait for it (still spending money on applying to back-up law schools if June doesn't work out). Anyway, so it's ON the 21st? Since I know that's cutting it close, is there a specific time? I live in FL, so should I stay up till midnight? Or is it midnight "21st" from the Pacific time zone? I don't want to miss this :(!
:)<3 I knew holding out was the right move :P Thanks ton guys
Psst... Only until April 21st, PrepTests with full explanations are temporarily discounted here: https://classic.7sage.com/addons/
Of course, make sure to download the PDF immediately because the PDFs will be taken down on April 21st (very soon!).
[edited for clarity]
I sincerely thank all of you for your support. The uncertainty with LSAC has been really stressful for Alan and me because what you see here on 7Sage is basically our lives for the past few years. Your support means so much to us.
To clarify LSAC's position, they're not banning PDFs per se. They're placing encumbrances on the delivery of PDFs so severe that they amount to a ban. Indeed, some of these encumbrances are technically impossible to enact. I can talk more about the technical details (or really Alan can) but the upshot is that as users, neither of us would want to install the DRM software LSAC suggested because (1) they are intrusive, (2) buggy, and (3) they do not actually enact all the restrictions that LSAC has laid out.
Here's just one ridiculous scenario that would occur if we implemented the DRM for PDFs. LSAC require that we limit printing to one copy. Okay, sounds fine. Until you look closely at what that would entail. Let's assume that the DRM functions 100% all the time. Okay, but what happens when say you print a PT and get a paper jam, or run out of paper, or your toner was low so everything came out light grey or streaky, or you hit print but the printer wasn't plugged into your computer so you need to send the print job again, or what if you just want to print more than one copy? These are all things that in fact happen all the time. But if we implemented the DRM, you'd just be out of luck. How's that fair or even realistic? Like if I actually wanted to troll you and was thinking up ideas of how I'd do it, that would be a top contender.
On balance, we decided that you guys are tech savvy and it's trivially easy to get PTs elsewhere. And as for the future, so many of you have pointed out already that the PDFs, while a convenience, do not represent the value you get with 7Sage. That's true. The PDFs of the PTs are largely a commodity. Like any other commodity, they're the same no matter where you get them. (I do want to say that we did put a lot of effort in making our PTs cleaner than any other you could find and we even laid out the LG sections from all the older PTs to conform to the new two page spread but oh well.) The point is that the value of 7Sage lies in our Core Curriculum, our Fool Proof / Memory Method / Blind Review methodologies, our video explanations for thousands of LSAT questions, our robust Analytics, and most importantly, you, 7Sagers, our community. You guys created something really Good with this discussion forum and comments beneath each lesson. These are our core values that 7Sage offers and these are here to stay.
So, please don't worry. This PDF ban, while a pain in the butt, is not going to change much.
@jeffersonjustina496.on.me that's a great question. LSAC has only changed their policies related to PDF's—and they still would allow PDF's with certain security enhancements. Since it's the licensing of LSAC content that makes up much of the cost of videos/explanations for individual PT's (the ability to show/cover real LSAT questions word for word), I would anticipate that 7sage will continue to provide these products/services for future PT's and at similar (if not identical) cost. Just my 2¢ based on understanding of licensing changes generally.