I attended an honors liberal arts college where we didn't have a traditional grading system. Instead we had a pass/fail style program. This means that I don't have any kind of GPA. The LSAC guidelines say that my narrative evaluations will not be converted into a GPA and says "Credits for the work in these courses are totaled and reported separately as unconverted credits.".

Given that I am not sure how to evaluate my chances of getting into schools/receiving scholarships since every estimator asks me for a GPA. Anyone have any insight into this? Is there a placeholder GPA I can use? Does it hurt? Help?

My LSAT is 172. I'm would go to NYU if I could get a good scholarship, but I'm looking to do exclusively Public Interest so I don't really need to go to a T-14.

Hello everyone,

I was burnt out and fluctuating before the July exam, averaging around 160. I've never scored higher than165. June was my first time taking the test and I scored 159.

But then I jumped 8 points on the July exam - scoring a 167. I can't tell you exactly what happened, but I got LG first (my favorite section), had better pacing on LR, stopped cramming a few days before, and felt no pressure (because I planned on retaking again in September).

My goal was to eventually reach 170. I was not dead set on this number but I felt like I was capable. My strongest section is LG, RC is a wash, and LR is my worst. Since the July exam, I've been drilling LR question types, trying out new approaches to LR, doing an RC passage a day, and warming up my studying time with old games. I also haven't taken any timed PTs, but after seeing my score yesterday, I decided to...and I got a 169 (I know this is only one data point but before I topped out at 164 so it means something to me).

With a 3.76 GPA and 167 LSAT score, I have more options than I thought. I'd like to apply to schools ranked between 14-30. I also don't want to pay full price, so a decent scholarship would nice. I'm aware of the medians at these schools and LST stats. When I was dreaming of that 170, I looked into UCLA, UT and Vanderbilt. There's still a lot more research to be done though.

I'm leaning towards studying for the September test (I already paid) and seeing if I can continue to score above a 167 on PTs. I'm someone who doesn't stop putting in effort until the task is really "done." Like I said, I really want scholarship $. But I'm also worried about any drop in my official scores. Yes, I know admissions only look at the highest, but I want to prove that this 167 wasn't complete luck. There's also that "what if" factor on test day of things you can't control.

Based on this novel...would you apply early decision with a 3.76 and 176 or keep studying, prove consistent 167+ PT score, and take a risk on September 21st?

Please help! I'm sorry this is long...but I really appreciate any honest answers. Thank you in advance

So I think I have a different goal than a lot of people that I've seen on here. My goal is to to get through law school debt free. Obviously, nobody knows for sure but maybe yall might have some insight or even thoughts. Do you think having a LSAT score that is a couple points over the 75% of the the school and a median GPA is enough to get a full tuition scholarship?

Does anyone know how to pay by installments for the Unlimited Editing package? Thanks in advance.

Hey all. I'm currently applying to law schools and purchased CAS on LSAC. I received an academic summary report with a degree GPA and cumulative GPA. Which one do law schools look at and my main question is: which one do I include on my resume? They are drastically different so I don't really know what to do.

Thank you!

Hi guys!

So.. I have a slight conundrum. Applications are open now for one of my target schools, but doesn't open until September for the other school I want to apply at.

Should I apply now to the one that is open and then apply to the other later, OR should I just wait two weeks and apply to both at the same time?

My concern is that I want to possibly use the second to get the first to bump up if they don't offer a full ride. But I will be waiting on the second school for a while to do this. I do have a primary preference, but both schools are awesome.

I have a 3.7 at my local state university and a 161 on the LSAT. I have decent softs, and I am a member of the LGBTQ community. What are my odds of getting into schools ranked in the low-20's/high-teens (GW, USC, Notre Dame, Minnesota, Vanderbilt, and Boston U)? I

Hi all,

I understand that some international undergrad transcripts appear as "0" despite having a GPA numeric, and will not count into GPA medians for law schools.

I am wondering if anybody knows how a foreign undergrad institution's grades, specifically Canada, factor into our US law school applications. Do law schools include Canadian GPA's in their rankings for GPA medians? Will law schools weigh the Canadian GPA just as heavily as a US undergrad GPA?

Is there something special on our Academic Summary that would indicate such a thing?

Thanks all

What do yall think is the latest LSAT date in order to give enough time to hand in applications as early as possible (September)? This is assuming that you havent done anything other than the LSAT for applications, such as essays and whatnot.

Hi all,

I'm looking to quit to study the lsat full time. However, if I quit, I will probably leave the state that I am currently in. I have been living and working in my current state for over 2 years and would like to get in-state tuition for a school here that is my top choice. If I leave the state just before my application is submitted, will I lose the chance to get in-state tuition?

When/how do schools typically prove your residency?

Thanks!

Hi everyone, does anyone mind proof reading my PS and giving me some feedback on how to condense it and how to make it better?

If anyone can, please let me know!

It seems like the (informal) default recommendation is ~1 page double-spaced. Is it OK to be closer to 1.5 or 1.75 pages?

Hello!

For schools that do not specify that they would like 1.0 margins all around, and just specify a font size and page limit for the PS and résumé, are .8 or .9 margins generally ok?

Thanks!

Hi! I have a "general" PS that I'm using for most schools/modifying based on word count restrictions, but I'm wondering if schools want every PS to mention why I want to attend their school? that is to say, should each PS still be modified to explain why I want to go to X school, even those that don't explicitly mention it or those that also have a supplementary essay about Why X? Any input much appreciated!

Hey guys, TIA for the responses.

Obviously the LSP should be used just as a guideline, and not as a definitive "you're in/not in." But as far as reach/target/safety school lists go, what are some good ranges to use?

For example, should it be something like this:

Reach: 30-50%

Target: 50-70%

Safety: 70%+

And what's a good cut off for "don't even consider it?" Say I'm reasonable interested in School A, and LSP predicts I have a 30% chance of getting in. Is it worth applying?

Hi all,

After high school, I spent two years at one college before transferring to a different institution, where I started more or less started over as a freshman (I was able to transfer credits from one course). My GPA before the transfer was pretty abysmal (2.7). I graduated with a 3.5 and went on to get a grad degree from an Ivy, finishing that with a 3.6. This was almost 10 years ago.

My question is, should I even list the first school on my application? The downside risk to sharing is that the low GPA will spook admissions, but there could be some upside in the narrative of personal and academic growth. However, I imagine there is also the risk of outright rejection for withholding that information.

Has anyone faced a similar situation, or have any advice? Thank you in advance!

I am getting my bachelors degree from a fully accredited online school (Excelsior college)

How much (if at all) will this hurt my application?

Sorry if this has been discussed before - I tried searching 7Sage and Reddit to no avail.

All else equal, do AdComs favor applicants who are undergrad alumni of the university to which they are applying? For example if someone went to Northwestern for undergrad and is right in the 50% for LSAT and GPA at Pritzker (or slightly lower), are their chances better than an applicant with equal marks who did not attend Northwestern for undergrad?

My supervisor at work has offered to write me a letter of recommendation. It was a temporary internship, so I no longer work there. I have a few questions regarding a reference for law school. First off, would a letter of recommendation from my boss even be appropriate? I know its almost always better from a professor, but this job was prestigious- worked as an intern at the U.S. State Department Humanitarian Unit in East Africa. My work did not involve lawyers, but a lot of it was legal related. Second, I won't even be attending law school until fall of 2021, so would the admissions look down on this recommendation at all if it was written a year and a half before applying? I'm just worried that if I ask my boss later, she will be less inclined to write an outstanding letter since it was so long since we had worked together. And finally, my boss said to tell her what I want from the letter of recommendation, so what are the vital elements of a good recommendation letter for law school?

Hello,

Just looking for a little guidance from my fellow 7sagers! I was wait listed at my dream school and then denied. I have decided to not matriculate an institution this fall due to many other factors, and am determined to use the time I have waiting for the next cycle to polish my application. I am very certain where I was eventually denied is where I want to pursue my higher education and am wondering if it is an appropriate action to reach out to the admissions office there? Of course all in a professional manner- I just wanted to express my interest and in some way ask for advice as to what would make me a more attractive candidate- I do plan on taking the LSAT again, rewriting my personal statement and getting a new LOR. Thanks in advance for any advice!

I bought mine last year October 2018 and didn't end up applying -- can I still use it this year, or do I need to pay another $195? Please advise!

THANK YOU!

Hi All,

After researching and looking through previous discussions, I still have a question about requesting that a transcript be sent to LSAC. My undergrad institution uses National Student Clearinghouse. I selected LSAC as the recipient with electronic delivery. The next page asks for the recipient delivery information, specifically an email address. I've looked all over the LSAC website and cannot find anything about providing an email address for National Student Clearinghouse. Any insight?? Thanks!

I took a semester abroad in undergrad. The classes were pass/no pass for credit, but grades were given (C- or better was pass) My transcript marks the p/np but does not have the letters. For my application to law school, should I get a transcript from the program itself to get those letters or is my undergrad sufficient?

I'm not sure how exhaustive my resume should be. There's a six month gap in my work history in 2015 because I left my job in June for a position where I was terminated in August. I was hired by my current employer that following December. What should I do here?

Additionally, I left school and work in 2012 due to illness. I returned to work in 2014 and finally returned to school in 2016 where I eventually finished my undergrad in 2018. Again I'm not sure if this is something I should explain.