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Good luck!
I'm trying to get a diagnostic score with the first PreTest, but I'm not able to print it out. Will this affect my ability to do blind review? Is there a way to flag questions I don't feel 100% about on the test?
Recently, I have realized I am pretty slow reader. When doing practice LSAT questions/exams, I have issues either reading too slow, or if I read too fast, missing key details or simply not understanding the stem.
Any advice on how I can improve my reading skills or practice it? I would prefer not to use LSAT questions not in the core curriculum, as I do not want to read ones I potentially may come across in future LSAT practice exams.
Thanks!
I am curious to know what the formulaic way of calculating the total number of worlds for any given game. Obviously, I will not use this during the test, this is based off pure curiosity to do on my free time! For example, for PT 30, S1, G4, I worked out 18 possible worlds that are definitive. Given the conditional nature of rules in a game, I think it would be fun to be able to go Good Will Hunting mode and see if I could plug in some numbers to a formula of some sort to see if I get the same output as 18. I was doing some online research and there is something called the combination formula!
Hi guys,
I have been struggling recently with test anxiety. There was a wonderful few weeks where I actually really looked forward to every test and saw them as a really enjoyable part of my day, but now they just fill me with dread. On the days I take PTs I feel sick and anxious all day because I feel like if I do badly then the entire week of studying will have been a waste. This stress often leads me to feel panicked during PTs which really affects my timing and focus. The anxiety has been exacerbated by a recent score regression. It feels like a vicious cycle. I took a few days off from everything LSAT to reboot and even pushed my test date back to ward of that "impending doom" feeling, but I am still so stressed about PTs and even drills. Has this happened to anyone else and what helped you get through it?
Thanks in advance!
You've spent months foolproofing games, sharpening your conditional logic and reading endless passages about aboriginal handcrafts in preparation for the LSAT. You are ready to sit the exam when you get the email from LSAC saying, "You must complete the LSAT Writing section before receiving your score."
Don't stress, we here at 7Sage have you covered! We offer a 100% free guide to the LSAT Writing section that explains what it is, how you can prepare for it and whether it matters at all!
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My year long LSAT journey came to a very happy end yesterday, getting a 178 on the June 2022 test. I'm incredibly fortunate to be able to say that I scored higher on the real thing than any PT ever!!! I can honestly say this would not have happened without our friends here at 7Sage and especially my tutor @"Chris Nguyen".
As a slower reading STEM major, I struggled quite a bit initially with LR and RC. After the August test last year I was ready to give up, and took a few months off. I started up studying again in January this year with some new found motivation, but I was still struggling, stuck in the high 160s and occasional low 170.
I had gone to a few tutors before, but none worked for me. 7Sage's content had been great for LG, so I decided to give their tutors a shot. That's when I met Chris. We immediately got to work on RC. After only one session I was answering questions more confidently, and was no longer getting any main point questions wrong (a big weakness of mine). With Chris's strategies I was able to go from around -8 on RC down to -3 or 4.
Chris also worked with me on LR timing, and gave me specific strategies for every question type that I struggled with. He spent the time to understand how I approached questions, and how I thought about the test, and then tailored strategies that would work for me. I've seen others say the same thing, but I wish I had met Chris sooner! I saw consistent improvement from every single strategy we implemented. Chris was reassuring through rough patches, and insistent during the good times. I went from being overjoyed with a -4 on LR, to expecting -0.
Maybe it was lucky to score above my PTs on the real test, but the protocols Chris and I implemented together put me in that position. He kept saying, that if I do everything we've discussed, there is nothing holding me back from mid to high 170s. He was right about all of it!
Thank you so much Chris. If anyone's looking for a tutor, Chris is the best there is. Cannot recommend him enough!
Is the recording going to be posted?
Is there a way to add extra time on PTs for people with accommodations? If not, I think that would be a good improvement to help people prepare most realistically for the actual test day
Hey! I’m approaching my test date quick and I am still on the long logical reasoning section of the core curriculum. Can I jump around to logic games and RC to get a little of everything before the test date or should I follow through with the order of the curriculum. Please lmk what your guys experiences are and advice on jumping around or not. Thanks!
Went from a low 140 diagnostic last year to a 174 for the June 2022 administration. 7Sage was 90% of my prep and I couldn't imagine using anything else. This platform worked wonders for me, and for that I am truly grateful. Seems like I will be closing one chapter, but moving onto the next - applications! It's been a wild ride, definitely won't miss it, but I won't forget it either. Cheers to all that just started or are in the middle of preparing for the LSAT. Starting is half the battle. Keep your head high, you got this!
When taking PTs/the real test, do you hide your timer? Or do you keep it visible in the top-right corner? I'm not sure what the best practice is or if there is one. I've always hidden my timer while drilling but I'm curious to hear others' opinions.
Hey everyone, I am scoring in the high 170's and am willing to tutor for free. I can guide in terms of the study material, send explanations for specific doubts, explain concepts or anything you'd like. I am working currently so regular video calls might not be possible. Regular mails, texts and sharing notes would be more feasible. If this interests anyone please feel free to hit me up!
Edit: Sent a DM to everyone who commented. Won't be able to accommodate any more people now. Will put another post if any room clears!
Key takeaways:
Nothing profound; just my humble .02.
-If your goal score is far from your diagnostic (15/20+ points), give yourself at least a year to study.
-get a 7Sage subscription ASAP if you haven’t already.
-Do lots of reading outside the LSAT. The economist, foreign affairs, NY review of books are all great. I honestly believe this was responsible for most of my progress in RC.
-Be a stoic. You’re going to see significant fluctuations in PT scores. Your response to those fluctuations is key. I was ecstatic when I broke into the high 160’s, and devastated when my PT scores subsequently dropped to the low 160’s. By being conservative in your response to fluctuations, it makes it easier to avoid disappointment and psyching yourself out.
-The loophole is a great LR resource.
Good luck.
Is there any way to see and navigate through the full course concept tree that JY uses in the videos? I think it would help me connect the dots a little bit as to how some concepts relate to each other and help me figure out what to study again.
After studying using 7sage, using the logical reasoning loophole, LSAT Bible, all that I could afford to study for this god awful test I only increased my score by 3 points from my November 2020 Test. I have spent so long studying and feel like it is all for nothing.
I was scoring on practice test on here near 165-167, I was so confident on my test. Unlike the US, Canadian schools have a harder entry standard. They won't even accept or look at a candidate under 165. I really have lost all hope and think this is enough trying and enough paying. I really thought this time around with 7sage and over a year of studying would be different. I did everything I was suppose to but still not good enough.
Trying my very best not to let this get to me, but its so hard to think that you can use all these resources and still not get there. I feel exhausted. Congrats to those that did well,. Maybe on day law school will look at only GPA and then I could have a shot.
Non native speaker, international student. Did all RC and LG questions from PT 1-91 (many multiple times), about 80% of the LR questions too. Took 22 timed tests, put in about 500 hours while working full time at a stressful job in a law firm
Thank you 7sage, you’re truly a blessing.
To all those struggling, keep pushing and then push some more, you will get through! You’re stronger than the test.
I have always wanted to go to law school, but it mainly lived in the back of my mind as a dream and not a real concept. As a junior in college majoring in Marketing, I realized I wasn't anywhere near as interested in sales or marketing as I once was. I decided after months of consideration to start studying for the June 2022 test in January 2022. I went through the entire 7sage course and finished it in early April, then took a few practice tests over the following six weeks. I took the test in June and just found out that I got a 157! I am retaking it in the fall because my GPA is a low 3.3 so I don't think that will help me at all, but I just wanted to come on here and share a few things I experienced that is not typically publicized. This may not work for you but it has worked for me very well and I feel like I should let everyone know that there are many different ways to find success! I'm by no means an expert, just someone wanting to share their story :)
I took many study breaks during the time I was preparing. I started in January, and I am a Division 1 swimmer for my college team so I didn't have all the time in the world. I am up at 5 am five times a week, and I practice over 20 hours a week. I took a two week break for swim conference and the week after, one week for spring break, one week for final exam studying and a week for the actual exams, and many weekend breaks for formals, traveling plans, holidays, etc. I studied a lot don't get me wrong, but I made sure to have fun and relax when I needed to. I also really enjoyed studying so when I did I got a lot done at a time.
I scored 152-55 on my practice tests and got a 157 on the real one. Uncommon, right? Don't go in thinking you will score lower on the real one. I have always been told that, but personally I could never get myself to truly focus enough on the prep tests compared to the real one. I feel like others may be able to relate to that; common ADHD side effect. So don't worry if your prep tests are not where you want to be: there is a chance you will score higher on the real one. Personally I find it hard to focus entirely on something unless it is as serious as the real test was so I am not shocked this was the case for me.
I studied alone, and only used 7 sage. I looked over the book for a little bit but found it hard to stay focused. I did everything on my own terms on my own time and it worked out in my favor in the end. Again, may not be common but may work for some of you.
I threw so many things out the window when it came to logical reasoning. I forgot half of the A --> B methods by the time the test came around; for some reason it just did not stick with me. Maybe that wasn't a good thing but I felt it saved me time in the long run. I just went with my gut and my instincts.
Lastly, I practiced skills way more than I did tests. This may be obvious, but I literally only took three prep tests and one I decided to do last minute in my bed at 10 pm because I was bored. I find it way more helpful to do smaller 6-10 question sets and review those because it shows me more of a pattern of my mistakes.
ALSO: Something that is not advertised enough: Law schools are lowering their standards every year due to lower interest in law school. I have read dozens of articles about how some schools are now accepting students with an LST lower than 140, which before may have seemed unrealistic. Even if you do not meet your personal standards, there is a high chance there is still a school out there for you. Work on getting rec letters and having a stellar personal statement, and if your GPA or LSAT are low, take the time to explain why. This will stand out to admissions!
Again, this may not work for you and it may seem stupid but I didn't think there was any way I would be above a 153 on my first test, much less above a 155 and here we are with a 157. I will be sure to update after my September test, but I felt this was a good enough starting out story to share :)
Hey guys :) I am posting this because I have seen some conflicting information and it was stressing me out, so I wanted to share in case it helps anyone else.
This is directly from LSAC: "The shipment of testing materials will include a paper-based version of the LSAT, as well as a paper-based answer sheet which you will use to record your responses. You will not enter your answers on the computer, although the computer is used to set up the live remote-proctoring for the scheduled test session with ProctorU. You will be allowed to write/highlight/underline directly in the test booklet. You will receive instructions with your package regarding returning testing materials."
***Also, make sure the address on your LSAC account matches to where you are going to be taking the exam. I originally had it as my permanent address at home, but I am in college so I had to change it so that the materials were sent to the correct address. (I'm guessing most people were smarter than me and put the correct address, but figured if it helps one person its worth it to remind.
I was PT-ing around a 171-172 but I scored a 169 on the June LSAT. I know crossing the 170 threshold makes a big difference but I'm torn. Please help..
Just got my third score back and it was lower than the first two. I give up. I'm done with the LSAT and done with my law school dreams.
Before the January LSAT, I was PT-ing around 168-172, but I only got a 157 in the January LSAT. I thought of the possible reasons like being nervous, screwing up two games, not simulating the test environment, etc. etc. Before the June test, I addressed all these things except for the being nervous part. I was pretty confident before the test cuz I PT-ed 175+ (if I didn't screw up the tough game that may or may not come up). In the June test I felt I screwed up the last circular game, but I expected it not to be that bad cuz it costed only 3 points max. Nevertheless, I only got a 160 this time... only 5 points above my first diagonisis test...
I feel so demoralized and confused now... I don't know what to do...Since I'm an international student, October would be my last shot... I think feeling nervous was a big part in the test cuz I felt my pace of taking the real test was a lot different from that of taking practice tests. I don't know how to deal with it, or is there anything else I ignored that contributed to such a huge difference?
Hi everyone! I took the June LSAT and did not sign up for score review, because I was confident that I was going to score well. My PTs had all been in the high 150s going into the test so I was not too worried. Sadly, I got my score back today and I scored a 148. Since I did not cancel this score will this hurt me when it's time to submit applications?
Hi everyone!
I took the June test and it was exactly my average from PTs (166)
My goal score is a 170
I am registered for the Aug. test but don't know how to move forward with studying from now until then and am also running low on materials.
Any advice would be much appreciated!
Thank you!
Sharing my story as encouragement, as many others encouraged me when I read their words. I'm happy to share my news with this wonderful community.
I got rejected to the Dallas law school I hoped to attend this fall. I was disappointed, but for many reasons I applied very late (extra late - don't be me) in the cycle and received my rejection a few weeks ago. I was sad to be rejected in Dallas, but not too bothered. I planned to take the test again this summer, and apply next cycle. Or the next.
I'm a nontraditional student. I'm a former DC federal legislation and regulations lobbyist, 44 years old, and married with a very little girl. My husband is being transferred to another city, so we are moving in a few weeks.
There is a law school in the new city. LAST WEEK I responded to a generic email I got from that law school. I told them a little about me, said I was moving to the city, and asked for more information. I shared my 158 LSAT score, and that I plan to retake the test.
In fact, that 158 was such a disappointment to me! I genuinely enjoy the LSAT. I've had so much fun practicing for it, learning it, getting better at it. But during real time on test day, between my ADHD, high anxiety and weird hour long proctor problems, I scored 5 points lower than my practice tests! I did not think I'd be able to get in to a school with this score.
And yet...FIVE minutes after I hit send on that email to that law school, the assistant dean of admissions called me. She encouraged me to apply, even as I asked some very skeptical questions. It turns out that my 158 was competitive there, especially with my background. So, with her encouragement, I took a chance and submitted my application. This was LAST WEDNESDAY. She called me back before noon the next day. She informed me that the school received my application overnight, as it happened, in time for the admissions board meeting which was being held that very morning. They threw my application in with the rest, and the admissions board approved me! I was admitted to law school less than 12 hours after submitting a resume, as late as late can possibly be in the cycle. I will be sitting in a law school class starting August 22.
I've never heard of an admissions story like this before. As a person of faith, I believe this has happened for a reason. My prayers are prayers of gratitude. I also know that it would not have happened at all, if it had not been for committing myself to improvement on this exam, and seeking out the resources, support, and amazing community of 7Sage. Very unexpectedly, I'll now be a 1L in a class in Tulsa by August. Thanks to JY, my 7Sage study buddies, and the nonstop encouragement of our broader community here. Thanks to you all, and to everyone else - Keep at it! We will all absolutely get there.
Elizabeth, Taking on the Beast