I am taking the august test and I finished the CC a while ago but I’m scoring 155 and with 50% time. I also am rarely able to sit through an exam for one go.

Please let me know if you know any good tutors or if you are one.

Also if you have any tips please feel free to drop them, I’m starting to freak out so it would be very appreciated

Hi guys,

I wanted to share my experience with finally scoring in the 170s. I have been studying for this exam for almost two years. I started in the 150s and was stuck in the low 160s for awhile. Like many, I thought that represented my average ability and while I was enthusiastic about re-taking the LSAT, I didn't have any crazy expectations for my score to go up. However, within the past month, I began scoring in the 170s. While it's primarily exposure to the exam that has improved my score, here are a few little tips that have helped me out! Hope they're of some benefit to you :)

Create a master list for logic games symbols. We have all encountered logic games rules that have swiftly reduced our confidence to zero. When you review the game with J.Y, TAKE DOWN the way he writes the rule. I cannot tell you how helpful his symbols for tricky rules have been. For example, writing a "cross" to indicate that items cannot repeat in the same column or row was life saving. Besides the primary symbols for logic games, there are many lesser known ones. Make a list of them and subsequently be prepared for almost anything.

Put your head down and learn the valid argument forms. Oh ma god guys. When I started these lessons, my brain kept short circuiting. Anyone else? Well, they will take your LR score to the next level. When I got to parallel reasoning/flaw/SA questions, I'd just skip because I was like lol that's going to take some time. But after learning the valid argument forms, you breeze through those questions because you'll not only know what's valid, you'll know what's invalid and therefore be able to filter out all the useless-junk sentences that wordy SA questions throw at you. I used to get soo bogged down in the 5-7 sentences included in a SA prompt. But so many times 2/5 sentences don't even matter but how will you realize this without learning the valid argument forms?!

Don't go paragraph by paragraph with RC to form the reasoning structure. Guys, this may not work for everybody, but I used to slap "CONTEXT" or "BACKGROUND" or "SUPPORT" onto every paragraph after I finished reading it. I did this because I was so anxious about keeping track of what I was reading in my mind and I was jumping to formulate the reasoning structure as soon as possible. This kickstarts your good reading habits. But ultimately, I think the passages make a lot more sense when you start to put the pieces together as you read. Instead of stopping after each paragraph and going, "Shit, shit what is this in relation to the whole?" Ask yourself, "What is the author doing right now?" Are they explaining the origins of something? Are they going into greater depth about the situation? Are they discounting one theory for another? Are they summarizing what you just read? This approach made reading more fluid and forming the reasoning structure more natural.

Cherry pick essential words form the LR stimulus. We all know how wordy the stimulus can get. The kicker is that a lot of those words don't even matter. Once you identify the conclusion and the support, you got to filter the junk out. There are a lot of adjectives and phrases that have no bearing on the argument. Here is the process in action. I have bolded the essential words.

My friends say I will one day have an accident

because I drive **my sports car **recklessly. But I

have done some research, and apparently

minivans and larger sedans have very low

accident rates compared to sports cars. So trading

my sports car in for a minivan would lower my

risk of having an accident.

Lmao, I'm not sure if this passage demonstrates this tactic super well, but you guys get the gist. Just try it and you'll begin to pick up on what's important and what's not. Well, I'm at work right now and my supervisor just came out of her office so I'll have to cut it there for now. But I hope to get some more tips out soon. Stay strong everyone! YOU GOT THIS.

Hi so I took the LSAT for the first time and got to preview and then cancel my score. Is there any way to view my score for that cancelled LSAT? I can't remember what I got the first time and want to know for future study plans Help!

Hey everyone!

I had some thoughts tonight on the exam, and I thought it might be useful to put them out there into the LSAT community at large. Hopefully there's someone who finds this helpful :)

So, something that's been stewing in the back of my mind for the past week or so, is this idea of the bell curve. How can we use that to our advantage when we approach the test? Obviously, we all know that there are easier questions and harder questions... and we all reach a point where we feel like we should be getting the easy questions correct, after all, they're the easiest questions we see, and we want to have some idea that our studying is paying off, right? But, up until recently I had a mental block with these questions. So concerned I was about my pride (haha), not wanting to miss an "easy" question, that I was sinking way too much time into them, trying to make sure I got them right.

But, here's what I realized: The writers want to maintain their curve, and we all know this... but for me personally, I wasn't putting enough time into thinking about what this really meant. The LSAT is so good at manipulating us into choosing the wrong answer, we forget that on certain questions, they're manipulating us into choosing the right answer. At times, the LSAT seems like this force of nature... it's a test with amazing psychometrics. It knows us better than we know ourselves. But, instead of always seeing it as a bad thing, we can reframe it in a positive way, and it could help us to move faster during the questions that we know we probably got right but... we just wanted to "be extra sure" about. I think there are two major (and probably obvious reasons) for adopting this mentality.

First, it saves time. If we can get these questions lightning fast, it will save us so much precious time that we need for the 8 or so really, really tough questions. This is also a really important fail-safe on this test. Something that I have come to realize, (because I've had some very wise people tell me) is that mistakes will be made... I will misread, it's just going to happen. The more time you have to play with, the better chance you have of correcting these errors. Second, it saves brain power... so much brain power for when you're exhausted and you're worried about time and everything else that comes with this exam.

So, let the LSAT steer you where it wants you to go, that way you'll be ready to take over the reigns when it's time to shine!

p.s., check out the LSAT Lab video where they talk about moving through the first 10 questions on instinct. I think it definitely shaped helped my view on this.

I wouldn't say I am hitting a wall with studying, but I've definitely hit a fence.

I am forcing myself to maintain my study schedule, which I am proud of. Still, I can't stay focused while trying to retain information. I constantly feel like everything is just dragging on.

I've implemented some measures to stay engaged (basically, printing out everything everything possible to be able to take more specific notes) but I cannot seem to shift my mentality.

If you have had to overcome this kind of issue, I'd love to hear how. I know this type of thinking will not do me any good.

I scored a 161 on October 2020 flex and a 163 June 2021. Don't get me wrong, I'll take any improvement I can get but only seeing a 2 point increase was disheartening after those months of intense studying. I have always been an overachiever and part of me wants to push for round 3 in October, but the other part of me wants to take my score and run. I graduated in may with a 3.87. I currently work full time as a legal assistant and have barely anytime to study anyways. I have been considering part time law school and looking into t35 schools. I am just not sure what my next move should be.

Hi everyone,

Hope everyone is doing well! I'm in need of some serious advice. I took the LSAT for the first time last month (June 2021) and I didn't get the score I had hoped for. I plan to retake the exam in October 2021 or November LATEST, for admission in Fall 2022. I need some advice on how to get back in the groove of studying after taking a month break. I need to stay consistent and figure out a way to study effectively in order to raise my score. Full disclosure, I got a 146 on the exam and I need a 160 so I can get into my target school. Any advice helps. Thanks in advance.

Hello! Ive been studying for only 2-3 weeks now, and I am curious to know how long it took y'all to see at least a 10 point improvement.

My original diagnostic when I first started 7sage was a 149, but I'm trying to make at least a 165. I haven't seen any improvement yet, and its kind of making me worry.

Thank y'all!

Hi, everyone! I guess I'm just looking for some solidarity with this post. I graduated from undergrad in May 2020 and planned in March of this year to take the LSAT in August or October to apply for the Fall 2022 cycle. I know I can take it later and still apply, but with rolling admissions I'd rather get my application done by the start of the new year.

Well.. as I started studying, life got hectic - I moved, got a new full-time job, and my social life began to spring up again as COVID cases have decreased. I'm very aware that I'm running out of study time and studying for a few hours a week just won't cut it. My diagnostic score was decent, but not nearly close enough to the score I want.

I feel guilty for the time that I'm not studying which makes me want to hold off, but I also feel guilty wanting to postpone applying for a year. I think I'm coming to the decision to push it off a year, focus on settling down, and giving myself more time to soak in the material and really prepare for 2022 LSAT exams to apply for the Fall 2023 cycle.

Is my thinking flawed? Or does this seem like a reasonable decision? Can anyone else relate / has anyone else been successful after deciding to postpone applying?

Hi all,

I was reading over my June 2021 writing sample today and noticed I have 4 typos. I definitely ran out of time near the end to do a proper review. For context, my sample is 7 paragraphs (including intro and conclusion) and is almost 2 pages in length (1.5 spaced, size 12 font). I think I presented a strong and well written argument overall. I genuinely like the argument I made for the prompt and would like to keep it as is. However, I respect and understand that the sample is also meant to test our grammar, spelling, and time management, so I don't mind re-doing it during my October administration.

Does anyone know whether multiple typos really are make it or break it? Also, I'm not 100% sure I'll be taking the LSAT again, so I'm not even sure I'll be able to re-do it. If this is the case, am I screwed?

These are the 4 typos I made:

I've read mixed things about whether it should be re-done or not/ how big of a deal this is. Any insight would be great :) Thank you!

"You can't invent Google, Facebook or the iPod unless you've mastered the basics, are willing to put in long hours and can pick yourself up from the floor when life knocks you down the first 10 times." -Amy Chua, YLS professor

Invent Google, Facebook, Ipod -> Master the basics and Willing to put in long hours and Can pick yourself up from the floor

Is this an appropriate Lawgic to draw? Also, is she using logics because she studied for the LSAT, went to HLS, and is a professor at YLS?

Whew. Does this mean anything since it's such an old test?

So I requested 50% extra time and got that but I was wondering if anyone with Adhd has requested 100% extra time and whether or not it was approved. Thank u

Is there a great disadvantage to taking the November test? Probably the soonest I could be ready. Obviously not early.

Not through cc yet.

Goal score 160

Diagnostic 150

Cannot do October.

Strong GPA

I am a non traditional, (very much older student), applying only to 2 hybrid programs.

Both have said this date is OK, but I'd like to hear from this community.

Many thanks.

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We had another discussion post in which 7Sagers said that we are not supposed to do all problem sets within a section in order but rather jump back and forth as we progress through the CC. I am confused because JY did not create an instruction on how to go through the CC. What I have been doing was just go through the CC in order, and I am almost done with the LR part and am about to move on to the LG part. My original plan was to do the entire CC in order and then do the PTs. I was advised to take the timed test, blind review, watch explanation videos, write up wrong question notes, and drill. I was also told to listen to the podcasts. Can anyone tell me if this plan is incorrect? What should I do?

PS: I read older posts about this question, and people are giving different answers. People replied in the older posts to do them in order, or "sequentially."

I’ve seen many forum posts now about the admissions webinars done through Clubhouse. I didn’t catch the webinars live, but have they all been made available in podcast format?

On the 7Sage podcast page on Apple, I only see one Clubhouse episode (#50). When will the rest be posted? Is there somewhere else I’ll be able to find them?

@"Juliet - 7Sage" @"Tajira McCoy" – maybe you'd be able to help?

Thank you!

Hi! I really need help improving on LR, I cannot get below -8, which I get consistently. My test is in August. Please message me!

My golf coach always advised me not to see the game of golf as a war but rather a game. However, that is golf. Is it appropriate to conceive this LSAT journey as an act of going on an all-out war against the LSAT? How do you see yourself against this test, whether we want to call it a behemoth, beast, monster, etc. I am sure this test isn't just a piece of cake despite the fact that it is still just a bunch of papers stapled together.

To start, I have been studying approximately 4 months. I started with a 154 diagnostic last August but only studied the month of December 2020 and since the end of May 2021. So, relatively a short period of time.

I hit a 167 for the first time back in early June. Since, I have managed to hit 167 in 3/4 past PTs. I have typically been taking PTs once every weekend. My best section scores (from taking individual sections & PTs) are RC (-2), LG (-0), and LR (-1).

Now that stats are out of the way, I have no clue how to get out of the high 160s! I still have a lot of variance in particular sections simply depending on their difficulty but I imagine that, ideally, you would want to minimize this variation regardless of section difficulty. My approach to studying is typically to review incorrect answer choices immediately following completing questions without looking at the answers -- as opposed to going over every question. I feel that going over every question may waste too much precious time given that I will be taking the August administration. Also, I review any questions where I went significantly over the target time.

Has anyone that has been in a similar position found a way to address this issue of being stuck for more than a month in the same range?

Hi, does anyone know the rules on using scratch paper for the LSAT? Is there a limit? Can we only use it for some sections and not others? Thanks.

Its saying I cannot extend it what do I do?

Hi

I am still on LR on the CC, but I am having a difficult time with four-star and five-star questions on the problem sets on the CC. I usually get three to four questions wrong per the four-star and five-star difficulty level problem set. I was just wondering how many of these four-star and five-star questions are on the actual LR section of the PT. Also, is it normal to get three to four questions of four-star and five-star questions wrong on the problem set during the LR section of the CC?

I am taking the August LSAT and I have been studying since December of last year. I have been grinding, last weekend taking two PT's and I planned to do that all the way until the week before the test but for the love of god I do not want to take a PT today. Am I terrible for skipping this one and just taking one full PT tomorrow?

I'm talking about physical copies