Hi everyone,

I am new to the 7sage community and I am new to discussion posts. Everyone here sounds really encouraging so I decided to write on this forum and see what happens lol. Anyways have taken a cold diagnostic twice and have scored to my demise 141 both times. So many other forums are saying that it is impossible to raise it to a 170+ and now I feel like I already failed before I even started. Just for context, I am going to attempt to apply early to law schools in fall 2022, therefore I would hope to take the LSAT in about 6 months give or take. I just would like to hear some of you all's success stories and how much you were able to raise your scores to help make me feel motivated and focused again.

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I just got a 159 on the international June test

My diagnostic was 163. I had been PTing around 173. I am careful with checking bubbling and have not misbubbled in the past. I remember making sure the bubbles lined up with question numbers as I took the exam. I walked out of the test feeling reasonably good.

I did test with a 2B pencil, not a normal #2 pencil, because in the country where I took the exam, I couldn't find any normal #2 pencils. I don't know if this might've messed something up? Or something else?

I just don't get it. Even on my worst test days, I never scored in the 50s. Ever.

Should I pay $100 to handscore, even though that $100 will make money quite tight for me (but not as tight as doing the test all over again)? Or should I accept that this happened and move on and take the test next year (can't take it again this year because I can't afford to and I don't have the study time available at this point)?

Hi everyone, I hope your New Year is off to a great start.

I am looking for a study partner for all three sections who is currently trying to break the 166+ range (which is where I scored this past November) and wants to go on to 170+ this year. I want a partner who is interested in dissecting the stimulus and not just looking at the answer choices; I want someone who is willing to talk through everything and will consistently answer their phone and messages and be honest and straightforward about what they want. I am breaking even on all three sections (-5) and am looking for help and to help. Instead of solely doing questions based on PT, I'd like to try to approach things by category (strengthening, weakening, miscellaneous games, etc) but I'm willing to adjust if needed. And if you are interested, please let me know what you scored on your test admin date or what your recent PT's are. My LG is solid and I am happy to try it out live: if you pick out a game, I could probably do it and explain it...but my RC has been stagnant for MONTHS and I'd like to improve on that and help you as well.

I am about 50 hours into the coursework and have only done the diagnostic exam.

With my schedule, I have done this 50 hours over the span of about 6 weeks.

I am really struggling with my current section (end of Valid Arguments) and am wondering if I should go back and hit some old quizzes to make sure the basics are fresh in my mind. Or does it make more sense to continue through the course, and then go back? I don't want to spend too much time going back and reviewing materials and slowing myself down on the rest of the course.

Also, how often are you doing practice exams during the course, if any?

Hi guys, so on PT 80,81,82 and 85, I averaged 165, but I just wrapped up PT86 and dropped to a 161. I'm definitely still happy with that score and totally understand that apparently 86 is a particularly challenging test, but I'm wondering if it's difficult enough to explain a drop in 4 points (5-6 additional questions wrong).

For context, the section that dipped the hardest for me was LR by -4 less than my average, and LG by -2/3. Would love anyone's advice on if I should be panicking or if there's still hope for me still hitting a 165 on test day next week.

Hey, guys!

I have not taken the Lsat yet. I am wondering whether I can use the scratch paper to diagram in the LR section. I have heard from somewhere that some test-takers are not allowed by proctors to use it during the LR section.

Thanks in advance!!!

HELP

So I am stuck between what to choose on the various LSAT sections on the questions I don't get to. For example, Dave Killoran from PowerScore says to choose "D" 1-20 on LR when in doubt, and "E" on the last 5. JY says to choose "B" when in doubt on 1-20 and "E" on the last 5 for LR.

Note, JY uses data from PREPTEST 58 (Sept 2009 ) onwards, while Dave uses data from Nov 1991. Which one is more reliable?

Here are the sources for both opinions:

https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/guessing.cfm

JY: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/comment/190751

Hello,

I take the January 2022 LSAT in less than two weeks. I'm at that stage where I'm growing nervous and really want to make sure I'm studying and practicing materials that will be most similar to my exam. I've been hearing about some kind of Powerscore crystal ball prediction where LSAT statistics are used to predict what will appear on the upcoming exam. If you don't attend live, they make you pay for it.

-Do these predictions tend to be highly accurate?

-By any chance, did someone attend one of these sessions and want to share? Would be highly appreciated.

-Is the general consensus that the most recent practice tests are whats most similar to upcoming tests?

Just wondering if there is a way to see all the questions one gets incorrectly throughout the core curriculum without having to revisit each question set? Would love to redo those questions at a later date, but am unsure of how to access them collectively, or if that can even be done at all.

with the stress of the lsat coming up I wanted to hear some inspiration and potentially remind ourselves why we are taking this crazy test! Would love to hear some of your stories of how old you are, what work experience or school background you have, and what made you make the move to want to go to law school :) I think sometimes we can get so LSAT focused it's easy to forget what we are even taking the test for!!

I attended a webinar tonight on diagnosing issues with the 7Sage analytics tool / score report. In the session's Q&A piece, there was a note made on blind review by a moderator - and specifically, blind reviewing with a timing component (an example was made for when you are blind reviewing RC - not taking as much time as you want reading the passage, looking up words, and so on, as that doesn't help you perform better once you're back into another PT with the clock ticking).

This got me to thinking about how I should be blind reviewing. Should my goal of blind review to not do a complete deep dive into passage/question intricacies, by factoring in some sort of a time component? Should I simply blind review less in order to see more cumulative LSAT material that I otherwise wouldn't?

It may sound excessive (I am not sure if it is), but fully reviewing a PT can take me in excess of 7-9 hours... Wonder if I should be allocating that time to new material instead.

Or, more generally, can anyone point me to some effective blind review habits that I can factor into my studies?

Thanks very much!

I started studying for the LSAT last January 2021. Two days later, my grandmother in Mexico passed away from COVID (the same day my prep books came in the mail) and I was devastated and am still recovering. I lost four family members to COVID last year. I live in Germany so I couldn't travel abroad to support my family.

I'm PTing in the 170s for the last two months and am taking my third and final test in 2 weeks as I'm applying this cycle. Yesterday I found out my dad and some family members back home in the States tested positive for COVID. I feel like it's happening all over again and I'm trapped in Germany unable to travel as it would put my family at more risk. I need to focus on studying but I feel like...what's the point?

I have two full-rides at University of Arizona and Iowa so I should feel calm but I just feel like giving up. I need to focus but am just losing momentum right when I need it the most.

-Aspiring first-gen lawyer

Hey everyone! As the title says, I'm hoping to get some advice on how to chill out or what to do when it seems like everything is going wrong as the January test day approaches. I bombed my most recent PT (166 when I normally get 170+), am currently sick (probably Covid, though I won't be sure until tomorrow when I can finally get tested) with no clue on how long this will last, and I just missed the February LSAT deadline.

It just feels like everything's spiraling out of control. I had been preparing for 8.5 months for the January 2022 LSAT and it was going to be my first time taking the exam, but now that I'm sick, I'm worried I'll have to delay until March, which feels absolutely soul-crushing because I don't know if I can continue studying like I had been for another 2 months.

I'm also worried I won't have enough PTs to last, because I had planned on March being my 2nd take if I didn't do well in January, so I spaced out my PTs to be mostly used up by January, but saving a few, enough to last me from February to March. If I don't end up doing my first-take in January, I'm worried I won't have enough PTs to use for my 2nd take*.

*If anyone's wondering why I'm so insistent on taking the LSAT twice, it's moreso I'm planning a safety measure in case I don't do well the first time. I don't want to use up all my PTs for the first LSAT, only to realize I didn't do well and be left with no practice material for my 2nd try.

TLDR; Bombed most recent PT resulting in confidence drop, sick with (most likely) Covid, and January test day is coming up. How to stop freaking out and make a solid plan for my next steps?

Any help is appreciated, thank you!

Hi Everyone!

The past few weeks, I have gotten into the habit of taking two practice tests a weekend because I work full time, and it's draining to do practice tests after work. I then spend the time in between (weekdays, mostly) completing the BR. This seemed to be working okay until this last weekend where I realized I got way too overconfident on LR and bombed all four sections I took. Do you guys think it's best to take one test and fully complete the BR before taking the next one? Or do you think the way I am doing it now makes sense?

Thanks for your input and for being a great group of supportive people!

Hi, everyone. I love RC, and I would love to help y'all with it. I will be having an RC session on Zoom at 10:30am PST today. Feel free to join me! I will be posting the Zoom links when it gets closer to the time. See you soon!

Edit: Finished

Hi everyone,

I need some advice on the upcoming Jan LSAT. I constantly read stories on here of people scoring 170+ and I feel like such a failure because I am barely scoring within the 160's. I started off with a diagnostic of 145 and have improved a bit since then but my scores fluctuate between a 154-160. (This is very embarrassing to even admit on here). Im only missing 1-2 questions on my logic games, but I am having a hard time with LR and RC. I think the best chance of me getting my score up would probably be to focus on LR because its the most learnable. I dont want to burn myself out by the day I actually take my exam, but does anyone have any tips that I could use to get my LR score up? I don't know if its lawgic I should focus on or what, because I really am just missing a wide range of LR questions. Any advice would be super helpful and much appreciated. (Its probably important to note I struggle a lot with timing. I have bad test anxiety)

-How did you prepare for starting your law studies?

-What do you wish you knew/did before starting law school?

Before I started any courses, I took a diagnostic and got a 154. I got powerscore, studied for two weeks, and got a 166. I was thrilled! If I went up 12 points in two weeks, surely I’d be scoring mid-170s and have my pick of schools - next stop Yale!

Months later reality has set in. I’ve finished powerscore, moved on to 7sage, but keep scoring low to mid 160s on PTs. Has anyone dealt with something like this? And if so, how did you break through to the next level?

Thank you so much.

#help #HALP

Hey guys what is the best way to Blind Review a practice exam. Please be detailed about it. I want to know how long also it take you guys on average to BR a full length practice exam ? Thank you so much in advanced

I have a quick q. does anyone know where we can take a full timed section but not a full Pt online? ive been wanting to take one section a day. but I dont like taking the book copy bc i do worse. Anyone who knows where this is available?

Question to those who are scoring in the mid-170s and up: Are you getting close to a -0 in blind review? Or are there always a small number of questions that evade you--even when you have unlimited opportunity to review questions? Thanks!

Hey y'all, is there any high scorer out there who would be willing to hone their teaching skills by tutoring me? I'm defining 'high' as 170.

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