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Hey guys! After scoring consistently in the mid 170s for about 10 practice tests leading up to the exam, I kind of choked and wound up with a score much lower than any test I've ever taken, far lower than even my diagnostic. When I sat down to actually take the test for the first time, all my habits went out the window. I couldn't focus, I got worried, got distracted by the proctor, hell I even had a song stuck in my head. Am I the only one in this boat? Any advice? Its frustrating because I know what I'm capable of and a decrease of this many points is just completely unrepresentative of my abilities. Thanks all.

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Hi! Im PTing ranging from 165-170, but on the August exam I scored a 164. I feel like there's something im missing to push me from the mid 160s to low 170s. I would really like some advice and tips. I don't know what else to try or do anymore. Im taking it again in October and that will be my last chance before I want to apply.

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Disappointed with score from Aug test, scored 10 points lower than PT average and depleted all recent PTs from 60-89. Just for some context: my cumulation upga is 3.7 (poli sci & econ double majors) from a liberal arts school and am currently getting a master's in ed policy from a top school and have 4 years of professional experience in international development, law, research work. I am trying to apply to t-14 schools. Would you recommend cancelling this score through the score preview option for first time test takers? Also went through a lot of life-altering events in the past couples of months - death and divorce in the family and minimal support system+ mental health issues so I am happy to be able to take the test for the first time amidst all that. Not complaining about getting a 162, I started with a 142 and English is my third language, so I made progress. Just trying to figure out what next possible steps should be if I am trying to apply to t-14 schools. I want to do international human rights law so schools with international recognition and good human rights law clinics are important for me. I am lost, also sad, so any recommendations from the amazing community here is appreciated.

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Last comment saturday, sep 11 2021

Cancel Score?

Hey Ya'll,

I just got my August LSAT score back, and because I am a first time test taker, I have the preview/cancel option. Objectively, I don't have a bad score (low 160's), but have been consistently PT'ing 3-5 points higher. I'm already registered to retake November, and know I will do better (the score I received on test day is the lowest score I've received in months of PTing). I'm hoping to apply as soon as my November LSAT comes out.

Does anyone have any wisdom as to whether or not I should cancel my score?

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Hi everyone! I’m offering free tutoring for those scoring below 155. I am taking the October test and would love to hone my understanding of a few concepts and think the best way to do that would be through tutoring.

I’ve tutored other subjects but never LSAT material so I'll be very upfront if I cannot help. I'm ok with LR but really thrive with LG and RC. I managed to raise my RC score substantially with a unique technique so if you're interested in learning that please reach out.

Send me a DM if you're interested- thank you!

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Last comment friday, sep 10 2021

Thank you 7Sage!

I just got my August score back and it's a 164 which is one point above my goal score of 163. I truly could not have achieved this without using 7sage for the past ~8 months~ since the test did not come naturally (at all) to me. I particularly struggled with Logic Games, and I was never able to get my timing down enough to complete all 4 games despite months and months of practice, but thanks to 7Sage I was able to vastly improve from my starting point of taking 30 mins+ per game and perform well enough on the other sections to take pressure away from LG and still accurately complete 3/4 games. Good luck to everyone else gearing up for October and congrats to those who are ready to apply for this cycle :)

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I just wanted to say thank you JY, and also the 7sage community at large. Everyone is always so eager to answer questions and advice posts with the most thoughtful responses. After getting a score that I am happy with, I am so relieved that I am finally done with this test!

Nothing I did to study was any different from the advice that is dished out through out the forum (fundamentals, drilling, PTs, BR and review) BUT one sorta different thing was that I didn’t study THAT much per day: unless it was a PT day, I would usually max out at 2 hours; (I started studying in January)I read fiction in my free time, not the Economist; I also took a break from studying after the June Test until mid July and studied sporadically until August rolled around. I know everyone has different schedules, but I would always feel like I wasn’t studying enough, and then this leads to imposter syndrome when you’re trying to take the exam and so forth… So, if you find yourself doubting your abilities, that you’re not studying “enough”, just know that you don’t have to study 6+ hours a day to still walk away with a decent score (and yes a 169/170 are decent scores contrary to what Reddit will have you believe) Anyways, I hope this may be affirming for anyone who finds themselves doubting their study habits and routine. At the end of the day, it’s a standardized test and you don’t have to get everything right, just enough right.

Good luck October+ test takers and peace out 7sage, it’s been a not-so-fun, fun 8 months 😆

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Last comment friday, sep 10 2021

Thank you 7Sage!

I took the LSAT for the first time in April and received a 166. Although I was proud of my score, I believed that I was capable of getting a 170+. So I continued to prep using 7Sage as my only LSAT resource. Today, I am thrilled to report that I made 174 on the August LSAT!!! Now I've got to get started on my applications for Fall 2022. Keep grinding everyone!

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There seems to be a massive uproar on Reddit about this. I'm sure it happens every test but this one just feels odd to me.

I did much, much worse than my last LSAT and am completely devastated. Months of hard work and money have gone into this exam with nothing to show for it other than a worse official score.

I just hate how much of this exam makes a difference for law school admissions. After today, I feel like it's time to give up on those law school dreams.

Am I the only one who feels like this?

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Finally, I think I'm done with the test. It took almost 2 years of preparation working a full time engineering job.

First take was in Oct 2020, which ended up with a dismal 156. That was mostly self studying with 7sage.

Second take scores, just out... 173.

I went though 4 different tutors to get the right tutor who fit with my time, style and budget. Surprisingly he was only $50 an hour. I did sessions with him for 2 hours / week , Feb - Aug 2021. He used 7sage and lsatlab to monitor progress.

I guess that effort payed off. 173 is more that what I typically PT. I'm happy with the score. Thanks 7sage.

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I took the August LSAT at scored a 165. My average PT was around a 167/168, so I feel a little let down because I know that I can do better. After august, I have continued to study and have been doing even better, with most of my PT scores being 170+. If I take the test in October and somehow to worse than I did in the August, how does that work? Will schools still look at my highest score? Or will they just see that my score went down and hold that against me?

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Hi all,

I scored a 166 on the June 2021 LSAT Flex, which was my PT average heading into the test (I scored into the 170s a couple of times). I am generally aware of my two weaknesses, which I've outlined below, but would love some feedback on how helpful a tutor would be.

  • Logic Games—I am able to generally finish with -0/-2 on most sections, but will freeze up (which has nothing to do with not understanding the games) in others, missing -5/-6, which I think is what happened on this June 2021 test.
  • Reading Comprehension—I am able to go around -2/-3 consistently when I go back over the paragraphs as I read and an additional time before hitting questions (usually takes me about 3:30 to do all of this), but I get anxious and don't practice good habits in certain PTs.
  • Any thoughts on if a tutor could be helpful at this point? Would they be able to reveal anything else about my performance? Or should I just trudge through and work on these two weak areas?

    Thanks!

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    After studying for approximately 3 months, I scored a 163 in June. At the time I was PT’ing at about 164. In August, I scored a 163 after PT’ing at about 169. My PT high was a 170. Last weekend I scored a PT high of 173. I feel as though I was significantly better at the test in August and there were no extraordinary circumstances — albeit two difficult RCs.

    I plan on taking the October LSAT. My contention is that it would be difficult for me to afford a pricy tutor. I have an LSAC fee waiver, so if there are any tutors who offer discounted services, I would be very interested in working with them.

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    Dear friends,

    I want to provide hope to others starting with scores in the 140s. This has been said often, and I want to repeat it here because it is true:

    You. Can. Beat. This. Test.

    I won't go into my full journey, but a bit about me:

  • I'm a woman from a very poor rural background and am first gen.
  • I graduated from university about 4-7 years ago and have done full-time white collar work since.
  • I studied for this exam sporadically and collectively for more than a year, largely in the mornings before work.
  • I took the LSAT multiple times.
  • Potentially helpful thoughts and advice:

  • If you're struggling to decide whether you should keep studying, ask yourself this: Is there something CONCRETE that I know I can improve upon? If so, keep going and drilling if you have the resources to do so (As a side note, I have areas I know I could improve upon still to get an even better score. On the most recent test day, I fell into an old bad habit that I thought I eliminated with practice. If I weren't so exhausted from studying and working... I might even try a fourth time to get into the 175+ range).
  • Logic Games: Do all of the sections available to you over and over again until you perfect them under 35-minute timed conditions. Watch the 7Sage videos. Figure out what ends up being a time suck for you and nix it. But keep doing them until you can do them all without missing a single question.
  • Logical Reasoning: Truly understand the connection between a premise and a conclusion. Watch videos on logic. No need to read anything in-depth about formal logic, as the basic ideas are relatively simple.
  • Reading Comprehension 1: Briefly summarize each paragraph in your head as you read, then re-summarize the whole passage in your head before moving onto questions. This solidifies the content and arguments and helps you quickly answer questions.
  • Reading Comprehension 2: You must be able to read difficult material, and I might even argue... enjoy reading difficult material. Both of these habits can be built, but it takes time. Start somewhere. Start with the New York Times arts section or maybe an opinion section from a respected, world-renowned media outlet (think: Economist, NYT, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, Atlantic, New Yorker, etc). Anything you could see yourself potentially enjoying. I took my first LSAT right after graduating college, and though I've always enjoyed reading since I was young (largely YA fiction and the like in middle and high school), since college I have slowly developed a deep enjoyment for the classics, philosophy, and modern literature. I also spend a ridiculous amount of time reading the news in the mornings, largely NYT and the Economist. I think my RC gains came from drastically improved reading skills in recent years.
  • Your average practice test score is almost certainly going to be the score you get on test day. Some get lucky and get an easy test that plays to their strengths, some get unlucky the other way. But the test is relatively consistent. Don't take the test unless you're at your target score.
  • 7Sage's content, methods, and discussion forum are blessings.
  • Good luck to all!

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    Last comment friday, sep 10 2021

    Re-take with tutor?

    I scored 160 on both the April and August tests. I'm wondering if it's worth it to retake in November with the help of a tutor. Anyone have experience in the same situation?

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    Last comment thursday, sep 09 2021

    LSAT scoring

    So I have a question concerning the LSAT scoring vs. LSAT flex scoring. I took the June LSAT, so I was studying with the flex, now I'm studying with the full four section test since I'm retaking in October, which is not the flex. The scoring is kind of confusing to me. These past few tests I have taken I've scored 157, 158, missing around 28 questions (across all four sections). On my previous tests, that were flex, when I missed that many, my score was much worse. I know the year of the test can kind of fluctuate scoring as well, but I was comparing tests from the same year (2010, still in the last decadeish), that were only a few months apart. Am I spending too much time looking at the number of questions missed, and should I just focus on the score I got? Is it because for these tests it's -28 over 4 sections whereas with the flex it would be -28 over 3, therefore resulting in a worse score? I don't want to get too into my head about this because I do feel like I am improving, but I wanted to make sure!

    Now that I'm thinking about this a bit more; is it because only 3 sections are factored into your score, but 7sage shows how many were incorrect over all 4 sections? I feel like this is a very confusing question, but I hope someone can try and clarify it for me!

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    hi there! I just took PT 76 (shoutout to @lsat_sus btw, ill be joining your call with @canihazJD tomorrow!) and I scored a 157 (flex version). My LG was a -1, but my LR was a -10. Does anyone have any recommendations on how I should do deep analysis of the LR questions I got wrong in order to improve for next time? I feel like I do not have a good break-down process and I really want to breakthrough into the 160s.

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    Hello everyone!

    I am a prospective applicant and plan on taking the LSAT next year. My goal is to score in the high 160s, low 170s as of now. If you worked and studied full time, I'd appreciate it if you would be willing to share how you stayed diligent with studying and working full time and achieving your score goals (especially if there are busier months in your field of work than others and how you managed working around that).

    Thanks!

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    Hello 7Sage friends,

    While I am critical of some of Powerscore's methodologies, I think their free Crystal Balls are worth a listen. You can still sign up for the one they're hosting on 9/12/21 for the October LSAT on their website.

    If you can just derive a peace-of-mind from having attended the event, rather than considering yourself as having obtained some woo-woo powers because you listened to it, I'd recommend to check it out.

    Cheers and happy studying.

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    Can someone please explain to me, when it comes to General Theory, Specific Theory, Guided Application and Problem sets. Where can I go on the CC to learned these fundamentals. Thank You!

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    Intro - What's up my putitassss - it's your slaveboi lsat_sus back at it with "anotha one."

    Hook - "the LSAT is the Great Equalizer" (to an extent). This is the best quote of all time. I personally couldn't/still can't find a damn "normal" job with my jankyass resume, but law schools might at least take a look at me if I ace this shit. Perhaps some of y'alls can relate to this hopeful idea.

    Body - This is the second of hopefully many many free tutoring vids I'm tryna do by next cycle. It's gonna have errors but I got a -2 timed/BR on this section for the PT so I think I got these Q's in the bag.

    The structure will be similar to the first, but this session will be more open to questions. I'll be explaining the Q from top to bottom, and opening the floor up for questions on that particular question. I can't really guarantee answers but it'll be a good exercise between us nonetheless.

    Conclusion - Mind you, this meeting will be "rEcOrdEd for quality and training purposes." Both yours and my little box on Zoom will be included in the video if you ask a question. So please be mindful of that if it matters to you.

    Hope to see some of y'alls in a bit!

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    Last comment wednesday, sep 08 2021

    LSAT Flex and Study Process

    Two questions here:

    I can see that 7Sage has an option for testing that allows for simulating the LSAT Flex with only three sections. Considering the test is back to having an experimental section, should I be prep testing the LSAT Flex three sections or continuing doing the regular four sections? Only issue I can see is that yes, I'd be getting the same stamina on four sections with normal prep test, but it would always be an extra LR section. Thoughts?

    Secondly, does moving to three equal sections on the LSAT Flex (no extra LR) change my study habits? I do decent at LR for the score I am shooting for, but do significantly worse on RC and LG. Should I jump around in core curriculum to meet my needs?

    Background for second question: For the first three months of studying I had been using another text besides 7Sage, but just became frustrated toward the end of the book because I did not have any guidance when I got stuck on concepts. All this to say, I know I am too late to get the entire core curriculum and appropriate number of prep tests before my October test.

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