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Wednesday, Aug 5, 2020

nanabillan818

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Have there been misc games in the recent tests? I am full-proofing LGs in PTs 1-35 and don't want to spoil the more recent tests for myself but would like to know if I should be dedicating equal time on the misc games as much as the rest?

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Hi guys!! I'm having some trouble with Logical Reasoning, specfically with SA/NA/PSA. I have gone through the CC, read powerscore/loophole/trainer, and i just cannot figure them out!

I'm taking the exam in August and was hoping to create some problem sets with these questions and go through them. I'm looking for someone to do this with me/listen to how I go through it and aid me ?! Thank you so much!!

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I finished reviewing my latest PT and landed a 162 on PT 46 (granted the LG section was easier than usual but wins are wins man). I am now going into my last 2 months of studying for the October exam date. If anyone has any suggestions/tips on how to keep the momentum going that would be greatly appreciated!

As of right now, I work full time and reserve about 20-25 hrs/week to study (literally all the free time I have). I drill PT sections throughout the week, do full PTs every other week, and am halfway through reading Loophole by Ellen Cassidy (should finish in the next couple weeks).

I'm trying to hit at least the 90th percentile (around 165) but I'm BRing in the high 160s/170s so I feel like with the proper tools and study habits I have a shot at scoring above 90th which would be a DREAM. What other studying habits/practices have helped you? Should I try to take a full PT every week instead of every other week? Thank you all in advance!!

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Hi all. I've finally finished my LSAT studying journey, so first of all: THANK YOU 7sage, and THANK YOU Mike Kim!! I'm very grateful to those two systems, which allowed me to reach my goals after around 10 months.

Something that I referred to constantly throughout my studying was this post from a few years ago, which lists the hardest LSAT sections, according to 7sage's ratings system: https://www.reddit.com/r/LSAT/comments/71zteo/hardest_most_difficult_lsat_sections_ever_listed/.

Basically, I've decided to make an updated version of the post. I'll also post this on Reddit, as the original poster did. The only thing I've changed is that I've tried to include all available tests, rather than leaving early ones out. All I did was enter blank versions of the tests into the analytics system, and note which were 4 or 5-star sections. Many sections' 7sage ratings seem to have shifted in the years since that first post; this is something I noticed as I was studying, and one of the reasons why I wanted to do this updated one! I've tried to put weird tests (A, B, C, C2, F97, and J07) where they actually occurred, chronologically.

So, here are the LSAT sections that 7sage's analytics rates at 4 or 5 stars, as of August 2020:

LOGIC GAMES:

5-star: 27, B, C, 34, 88

4-star: 5, 18, A, 30, 31, 35, 62

LOGICAL REASONING:

5-star: 5-S1, 7-S4,17-S2, 17-S3, F97-S1, 23-S3, 28-S1

4-star: 1-S3, 3-S4, 4-S1, 5-S3, 8-S1, 8-S4, 9-S2, 10-S4, 11-S4, 12-S4, 14-S2, 14-S4, 18-S2, 21-S3, F97-S3, 22-S4, 24-S2, 26-S2, 27-S1, 28-S3, 33-S1, 39-S2, 45-S1, 62-S2, 69-S4, 70-S4, 71-S3, 72-S2, 76-S2, 78-S1, 81-S2, 84-S3

READING COMPREHENSION:

5-star: 30, 65, 74, C2, 79, 84

4-star: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 13, 15, 18, 19, 21, F97, 26, 27, 28, 31, 32, 33, 35, 38, 43, 45, 47, 48, 50, 51, 53, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 73, 75, 76, 78, 81, 82, 83, 85, 86, 87, 89

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I opted out of the August exam, but my LSAC account still says that I am registered for it. I have a message on my account confirming that I opted out for August and that I am awaiting a coupon to use for a future exam. The message says that I should get an email within a couple of days, but it has been weeks and I haven't received anything. I wanted to check here first before I call/email LSAC.

For anyone who's in the same boat, did you get your coupon already? Does your LSAC account still says that you're registered for August?

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I earned a 172 on the July exam, which was my peak (not average) for my PTs so I was shocked and excited to get this score. My ultimate goal is to get a 173+ because I'd love to get accepted to HYS. I definitely think there's a possibility of me getting in since I also have a 4.0, but I'd feel a lot better if I had a higher LSAT. Worst case scenario, if I earned lower than a 172 on the August LSAT would that hurt my application, or have no effect & is it worth it?

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Hey everyone, I will be taking the flex test this August and will be focusing on doing practice tests the rest of the month. I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for which practice tests they have found particularly useful to work through. Any and all advice is welcomed. Thank you in advance! (:

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hi guys. for those of you who have taken an LSAT Flex already I was wondering how the proctoru registration works. I am registered for the August flex; am I supposed to register for an account myself or will LSAC email us directions about it? If so, do you know when they typically send out this email?

Thank you! :)

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I've just taken my third practice test, and not once have I finished a single section on time. Sometimes I have as many as ten questions left on a given section. I am able to do fairly well on my BR (168 on my second test), so I think that comprehension is not the main problem. I am just not able to get through the questions quickly enough. I would appreciate if you guys could share with me what methods you used to become faster at taking the test.

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Hi guys I really need some advice on when to take the LSAT. I was planning on taking the October 3, 2020 exam and then the November 14th, 2020 to have law school applications done in December early January but I do not know what to do. I have been using khan academy for the past 2 months and keep getting mid-to highs 140s. I just signed up for 7sage and I NEED a 160. What should I do about the exams? should I postpone one and take it in January and delay applications? What are you guys' experience with 7 sage in terms of how many points did you increase in 2 months? HELP!!

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Can it be harmful to take the LSAT twice? I took the flex in July and received a score I am content with. However, I know I can score up to 5-6 points higher but, sometimes I score lower than what i got on my PT as well. My question is if I scored say 3 points lower could this sabotage the score I have already have and do most schools evaluate both scores. I come here because I have seen mixed answers elsewhere.

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Of course, you can't talk to yourself during an in-person exam with others in the room. But I am wondering if the flex rules might be more lenient with this, since there won't be anyone to disturb. Anyone have insight as to whether talking during the flex is prohibited?

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Hi everyone, so it is taking a great deal of courage to post about this publicly, and I hope I will not be judged. I have been using 7Sage since December (doing it alongside normal college coursework) and took the July Flex exam. Right up to the exam, I was scoring anywhere from 159-163 on PTs. I got a 152 on the July exam and I am crushed, discouraged, and feeling hopeless. Was this just test anxiety? Is there any general advice that anyone can give me? Thank you, feeling down.

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I’m incredibly grateful to the 7Sage community for helping me get to his point—I’m absolutely thrilled to be attending my dream school. This is a truly wonderful community dedicated to helping each other master what is an intimidating, but surmountable, obstacle. Thank you JY and everyone else for creating such an amazing resource.

I had a lot of trouble with the LSAT. In 2015, I took the test once, cancelled after a bubbling error, and got a 166 on my second attempt. With that score, I got into a number of mid-range T14s, but could never have gotten into a HYS (my uGPA was a 3.91, so I was a splitter). I really wanted to go to HYS so I could have an easier door to legal academia, and I decided to go to graduate school instead for a doctorate (still not finished) with the intention of re-applying to law school eventually.

I half-assed my way through two more takes in the early days of grad school without really studying for the exam: I figured it would just “click” eventually. I got mid-160s both times, and I thought I had doomed myself out of a place like Yale with that number of takes.

In 2019, I finally dedicated myself to making my way through the entire Ultimate+ curriculum and the results showed: I went from the low 160s (my diagnostic after so long away from the test) to a 175 on the July 2019 LSAT. I studied every day for about three and a half months using 7Sage, and drilling everything I would get wrong. I felt incredibly comfortable on test day, because 7Sage had taught me everything I could possibly see on the test. There are only so many forms of questions they can ask, and if you practice all of them enough you will have the time needed to get through the 2-3 curveballs they will throw at you.

There are a lot of big-picture lessons that I took away from my journey to a higher LSAT. JY has already said them numerous times, but it always helps to enumerate them again:

  • Every question has one CLEARLY correct answer and four ABSOLUTELY WRONG answers. I know we all want to be lawyers, and arguing different positions is a default for many of us. But that’s not what the LSAT is testing. Instead, it’s looking to see if you can identify factual patterns in questions. Once I came to accept this lesson, eliminating marginally-wrong answers became much easier for me.

  • Skipping questions is the best thing you can do on the test. The LSAT is all about time. I know that skipping questions is always emphasized as a strategy, but mentally I just couldn’t do it. For me, skipping a question represented a failure and a lost point. But of course, that point is worth a lot less than the five points I risked by not finishing the final page in time. I had to start forcing myself to start skipping questions. I set out by saying that I would skip at least five questions per LR section. The amount of time I had in the sections skyrocketed when I did this. It gave me confidence to start routinely skipping questions, and on the actual test day I finished all the sections with time to spare. That had never happened to me before.

  • Foolproof the low-hanging fruit. My biggest weaknesses ended up being my strengths: logic games, and must be true/SA/NA questions. I drilled NA/SA questions every day, until I could run through them in about a third of the time I had before. I also just kept running through the logic games of the first 16 tests, until I could do each one within a few minutes. It helped my LG section a ton—I would usually finish with about 5-10 minutes of extra time, which was a) a comforting buffer in case something went horrendously wrong, and b) it gave me time to meditate and breathe. Get comfortable with the low-hanging fruit and you will have more time for the other questions.

  • Gaining basic knowledge of subjects is helpful. I really struggled with the science RC sections. There were words in there that just looked like gobbledygook. I started reading as many ScienceNews.org articles as I could, and I got more comfortable. I can’t recommend ScienceNews enough for LSAT prep. The articles are almost always the exact length of a section, they almost always bring in an outside source to comment on the piece, and they are just complicated enough to serve as a good proxy for the exam. In fact, I wouldn’t be shocked if LSAC took passages from ScienceNews. Get comfortable with reading subjects you don’t entirely understand. Unrelatedly, I also found that understanding statistics, and in particular having a strong background in causal inference, was incredibly helpful for moving through the flaw questions in LR. If you are struggling there, I highly recommend taking a day to watch some videos on causation.

  • Mistakes are your ticket to a 180. I can’t stress this enough: mistakes on tests are the most valuable things you can look for. You need to document when you’ve missed a question, and you need to be using the “flag” option on 7Sage to mark when you struggled with a question (in case you get it right and forget it was difficult). I used to get mad at myself whenever I missed a question, and rather than focus on correcting the situation, I would chastise myself for being “an idiot.” Mistakes tell you where you need to focus, and where you can improve your score. Take lots of tests, get a statistically relevant sample size, and refocus your studies on those areas. I found it to be difficult to do this, because I inherently hated studying the questions I struggled to understand, but it’s what got me to a high score.


    • I know that these points might seem obvious, but I can’t emphasize their importance enough. I really struggled to grasp them, but doing so served me well.

    The LSAT is hard. Actually, it's really hard. But there is a light at the tunnel, and I hope anyone who is struggling with the test can take some solace in that it eventually does work out. I had one cancelled test and three mid-level scores for a top 3 school before I finally hit that 175. My path wasn’t ideal (don’t take the LSAT 5 times—I think I got lucky here), but it does show that you should keep trying if you are confident you can do better. I knew I could, even when the results strongly suggested otherwise, and I am glad I kept at it until it eventually clicked. Yes, I’m going to law school five years after I planned it, but I would have made this trade when I graduated college, and I am glad it has worked out fairly well in the end. Good luck, and please message me if I can be of help.

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    Hi, any advice on how to best prepare for a retake at the end of August? I think I can do better than my July Flex score which was sub-165. I have done LSAT trainer, skimmed Loophole, and did most of the CC over the last 3 months. I also took PTs 73-89, C2, 61, and 50 (20 PTs) as part of my July prep. My 20 PT avg was 170. My most recent 10 PT avg was 172. Most recent 5 was 174. I diagnosed my July results as caused by a combo of 1) semi-external-being-at-home-factors which I plan to mitigate next time plus 2) nerves plus 3) a tough games section (cabinets...) which sort of mentally rocked me ( I may have gotten more than 5 wrong in LG) having gotten used to the -0/-1 LG feeling plus 4) just not my day.

    I plan to drill a hard game problem sets daily (3 star plus games) and drill LR & RC sections. Any other "canonical" advice for re-take refinements for test takers who are pretty close to their ceiling but failed to execute on try 1?

    Any advice on which remaining PTs to use as full PTs? I was probably going to only do 71 and 72 (whose games I have unfortunately already seen) in the last ten days or so.

    Also, this is just me looking for encouragement/needing gas-up but my PTs do indicate I can do better on this thing, right? sigh... Good luck to everyone prepping for this thing. The highs and lows! Onwards!

    Thank you!

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