Sometime recently there was an option to sign up for discounted versions of the legal topics courses. The first one was called Real Property or something. Are there any upcoming opportunities to subscribe? If so, what is the cost?

I couldn't find a posting on this, so out of curiosity,

I have a bunch of Kaplan PTs downloaded from the internet. Are they different from the official published LSAT PTs?

How many official ones are there? Where can you find all of the official ones? And are there other organizations that publish more/other/different PTs?

Cheers!

Hi! I’m almost done with the LR & LG curriculum. I have one lesson to go and then I’ll be at the RC part of the CC. I’m wondering if anyone has guidance on what to do next: should I spend the next ten days just working on drilling RC, or should I just start taking full timed PTs now and review/study RC as I go? I’m taking the test in October so I was planning on spending 2 months taking PTs and reviewing my weaknesses.

First, I just want to apologize for any grammar, spelling errors in advance. Just typing this post before I continue working on my thesis.

The purpose of this is to help students who have full-proofed LG and are continuously swinging between 0-2 in LG sections to finally get to the -0 level continously. Personally, I full-proofed 30-50 series. As I started moving between PT 50-62, my first try on each new logic game section was not -0. It took me a long time to reflect on this and I noted a few things that I wanted to share with the community. Hope this helps!

Obviously the pros of full-proofing is that it makes your knowledge of each game type sound and gives you the experience of dealing with a variety of games. However, the cons is that it leads you to this level of comfortability that can be problematic because sometimes being comfortable means that you are not being critical or conscious of your approach. To break out of this, I tried to be more critical in my BR by following these four criteria.

i. Rules: Did I represent the rule as visually as possible? If not, why? What language in my rules can trigger me to make me represent my rule more visually?

ii. Connecting Rules: Did I connect all my rules together? If so, why not? How are you going to avoid this mistake in a real time? Develop a system for this and put it into practice.

iii. Inferences: Did you make as many inferences upfront as possible? What inferences did I not make? How did the game rules/board hide them? What sort of inference was it - sequencing, not both rule, etc..

iiii. Try to do above three steps by yourself. Your last resort is JYs explanation.

Hold yourself to this! If your scoring between -0 to -2, then guess what: your LG knowledge is solid. You just got to push and trust yourself more. Eventually this will payoff in your first LG section takes in the future.

Substitution Rule: It is Not as Bad it Seems

Yup - its really not that bad. Something I try to do is that in a game in which sub question is mentioned, ask yourself how many different ways could you re-word any of the rules in that game. Then, try to re-word them and see if they still hold the game together. This is a grueling process, but after 3 games or so, I think this question type is something you can have down in your pocket.

Killer Abstract Games: Using the Pivot

The gruesome 4/5 star games that have only two rules (or a max of 3) which are so abstract. Now, many of these games have a pivot. For example, PT 38 game 3 or PT 60 game 3. The pivot is that a game element will be locked in one spot. Guess what, that's your leading rule. Let this rule dictate each question approach.

4) The Gazillion Rule Game (Really any game with 5+ rules): Connecting the Rules is the Key

Any time you get a game and you see that there are 5+ rules, it should always trigger to you that things are going to connect up nicely. However, the difficult part is to connect them up and when you do that the difficulty of the game is defeated. Notice, many a times these games have two broader game elements - for example, sequencing game with a grouping game, or an in/out sequencing game. Don't approach the questions until you really really really push hard to connect the rules in order to make all the inferences. Two prime examples of this are game 2 & 3 in PT 62, or I believe the in/out dinosaur game from the late 50s.

5) The MBT Question Inference - which one of the following MBT? .... How to use this?

I think of this question as if its a rule to the game that was unstated. For example, you are working on a sequencing game and the second question of the game is which one of the following MBT? Now, you try to answer this by trying to go through the inferences and game rules that you have but of no luck. Then you brute force yourself through the ACs and you find the right answer. Guess what - the right AC should be immediately either visually adopted to the game boards or written down beside the game rules. This question is like a small cookie crumb that the LSAT writers leave for us. After you complete a game like such, ask yourself how come I did not make this inference upfront. Figure out why and this to your repertoire.

Hope this advice helps.

Remember - the LSAT is marathon and not a race. Be happy when you get questions wrong and conscious of the factors of why you made those mistakes or were overconfidence in your process. Memorizing the habits and thoughts that lead you to your mistakes will eventually make you catching them in a live session, which will eventually get you to -0.

Hope this helps and DM if you have any questions.

Cheers!

I am 40% complete with the common core and have been laboring over LR for a while now. I jumped into the Logic Games to change things up.

How did you all proceed through the common core and how long did it take for you to finish the curriculum?

I'm at a cross-roads deciding whether I should sing up for the August flex (deadline is today).

Reason being, it's 3 sections, so it's going to be shorter, and it will be at the convenience of my home. There is also score preview.

The drawback is I only have 45 days to study - my work contract just ended so I can spend all day every day.

On the flipside, there is more time to study for the October exam. It may also be FLEX depending on how COVID progresses. Does the score-preview apply for all exams from now on?

What do you guys think? Anyone having similar thoughts?

If I took and canceled the July 2020 LSAT do I count as a first time test taker and qualify for score preview for August?

Have you found that 7Sage's 12 hour length for each practice test is accurate or do they just give a time on the higher end so as not to mislead. I have only done core curriculum lessons so far so I have not given a practice test/blind review a go yet. Bonus question: would anyone recommend interspersing some of the earlier practice tests with the core curriculum, or is it highly recommended to complete CC before taking on all of the tests after June 2007?

Hi,

So I'm new here and I can't seem to navigate the site.

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I'm sorry but this is a bit frustrating. The video I watched did not do much. Is there a way I can take individual sections without starting from the first section in an order. For example, I want to take the LR sections in PT 57 which are the 3rd and 4th. I am unable to do that because it automatically wants me to start with the first section. Please help.

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I hope some of you will find laughter from this plus it's a PSA haha. I took the flex yesterday and LMAOOO just wanted to share with y'all that I didn't know/forgot we could only use number 2 pencils. So when my proctor was like "uhhhhh my guy are those MECHANICAL pencils? sorry they can't be mechanical...do you have any number 2 pencils?" I started to panic and rummaged through my entire house until I found 2 dull ass number 2 pencils. But wait, no sharpener. Only had a knife. It was the first time I ever sharpened a pencil with a knife in my life LOLOL we really hate to see it. The exam wasn't that bad. I usually PT from 167 - 172 (RC is my kryptonite rip) but I was so frazzled so I feel like LR/RC could have been better if my mind was in the right place. Ended up rereading stimuluses and parts of passages just because my angst got the best of me. But during the exam it was one of those moments where I knew if I was in the right headspace I would have complete control of the exam. You feel me? Nothing crazy out of the ordinary. Made some educated guesses on more questions than I would have liked and if the stars align we chillin, if not then rip. It sucks that I paid 200 for what is now essentially a practice exam but hey great learning experience and now I have HELLLAAAAA number 2 pencils and a sharpener for next time. Don't forget your number 2 pencils!!! Who's on this August train with yo'boy??

Like others, I don't know if I performed to expectation on July. I'm pretty sure I killed LG, did okay on LR, but may have bombed RC (that tribes passage...)

My last few PTs before the test were 171, 170, and 175. I'd be happy at this point if I managed to get a mid-high 160 but my brain is giving me a huge possible range of scores from below my diagnostic to possibly around where I was scoring by the end.

I'm really happy with my LG performance since I spent most time working on it throughout my prep (thank you 7sage, Foolproofing Method, & Pacifico's Attack Method). I'm fairly confident I went -0 or -1 unless I missed something important, but I had time to check everything over. But I can't stop thinking about RC since it's always been my most consistent section but for this test I only had a few minutes left at the end of it, and I didn't feel confident about most of my answers from a couple of the passages.

While I'm loathe to give LSAC any more money then it's already taken from me, I'm going to need a fairly high LSAT since I'm a splitter with a horrible GPA (though at least I'd be a mature candidate, so I have that going for me).

What do you guys think? What have you guys done? I've been feeling a little nauseous ever since I finished the July Flex and I can't stop thinking about it.

Hello 7Sagers,

I've been very proactive in my studying and spending 4 hours a day studying every week for the past 6 weeks, but I've been facing a lot of mental challenges. I constantly feel fatigued and tired, but when I see how hard everyone on this forum works; it motivates me to work even harder. Yet, there are days where I can't mentally function and my brain feels so tired, and I feel extremely guilty, if i'm not being productive or doing some type of work. It's getting to a point where I am almost burning out every other week and it has started to take a toll on my social relationships as well. I want to do really well on this test, but at the same time I know the rate I'm going at is extremely unhealthy. I really could use some advice, if anyone could offer me any.

Has anyone doing the course out of order? Like starting with RC instead of LR. If so, what have your results been like?

Hey,

Is there an easy way to add questions to Problem Sets from the Prep Test performance screen after taking a Practice test?

Thanks!

I initially took the 7sage course back in 2019 and scored a 153 and then a 151 in Feb of this year. Would it be worth it to go through the course again in hopes of a 160+? I feel like the last time I ran through most of the material.

Hi everyone,

I am pretty sure this question has been asked on this for in the past so apologies in advance.

I'm taking the flex exam on the 17th. I read somewhere that I just have to submit the writing sample before scores are released for the July exam. Can anyone please confirm if this is true? I couldn't find where on LSAC's webpage this "due date" was mentioned. :(

HELP!

I took the June 2020 Flex and received a 165. My PT averages were around 161 so I was pretty happy with that. However, I had to guess on the last LG due to time, so it makes me wonder if I can do even better than a 165. Should I retake? What are the downsides of retaking?

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if any one could please clarify this phrase on the LSAT Flex FAQ page. It says:

Q: What electronic devices are prohibited?

A: "One cell phone is allowed for use as a mirror during check-in as instructed by your proctor, but it must be turned off and put away as instructed by the proctor before the test begins. Additional cell phones are prohibited."

https://www.lsac.org/update-coronavirus-and-lsat/lsat-flex

I was wondering what exactly "use as a mirror during check-in" mean? Does this mean that it's mandatory for me to bring my cell phone to my desk? (I was planning to turn it off & put it away long before the test starts for peace of mind, but now I'm not sure whether I need to have it with me and also have it turned on at the beginning of the test? Seems rather odd.)

Also, what is a "check-in"???

I'd be much grateful if anyone could please provide any clarification on this. Thank you in advance!

I just took the writing portion and as I started to take notes on the scenario given to me, I realized there was NO prompt to show the camera my scratch paper. I had already written a few words on on the paper but I stopped and I said to the camera something like “I think I was supposed to show you the paper. There was no prompt to do so but here it is even tho I just wrote on it.” And I showed it both sides and what I had written at that point. I probably lost about 30 seconds due to this and the panic that I felt.

One side of the paper was shown when I did my room/desk scan. But not the other side till after I took some notes.

Ugh. Did anyone else have this experience? Do you think they will disqualify me? This is a time sensitive issue and I’m not sure if it’s better to call them or just hope for the best and not make a big deal out of it.

Hi guys!!

Q: Is there anyway to recreate Flex tests on 7sage? If not, can we pretty please have Flex tests or the option to somehow create our own tests using 3 problem sets that are then put through the converter (if this is already poss LMK!)

Q2: Is this something that is being done anywhere besides the PowerScore analytics package/ if not, would you recommend using the new PowerScore package?

#help

Hi all,

After initially planning to take the August 29, 2020 exam, I've decided it would be beneficial to delay my exam to the October 3, 2020 test date in hopes of improving my timing and score. Does anyone know if the October LSAT is most likely going to be a LSAT Flex?

Thanks!

Hello,

I'm currently working on my application for disability accommodations and had a questions for those of you who went through the process. I was wondering if the documentation from the qualified professionals needs to be submitted by me or by them individually? Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Hey guys! For letters of recommendation, I know we need at least 2 to apply but will it be alright to get one from an employer and one from a professor? Or will it look better on my application to get 2 from my professors? I have a bachelors but unfortunately, I never spoke to my professors that often so I'm in a dilemma right now.

Hello friends!

I recently shared my story of my 7Sage experience going from a cold diagnostic of 142 to getting a 169 on the LSAT. Many people asked for my study method and I kind of gave a quick run down of how I approached each section. I forgot to add a mildly important caveat.

My studying method has always lead me to rote memorization. I memorize things pretty easily making the generic test a breeze, which is why the LSAT was such a curve ball. There was nothing I could memorize!

After going through the core curriculum, I was overwhelmed by the amount of information to take in and was a bit shook. I decided to go through it again and select some vital data to jot down on some flash cards. I wanted to play to my strengths and use memorization as an approach to the LSAT. I found that memorizing these flash cards made my response times to particular questions quicker, especially with argument flaw questions. Being familiar with the verbiage made it easier to see through the weeds of fabricated confusion that the LSAT writers love so much.

@kkole444 asked me to recreate the cards on Quizlet so they could be shared. So, for everyone who also likes to memorize things as a study method, please feel free to use these!

https://quizlet.com/_8iw236?x=1qqt&i=c0dx3

Happy to answer any questions anyone may have :) Best of luck to all!

-Josh

Note: if creating these/posting these is in any form a copyright infringement of 7Sage, please let me know and I'll take it down immediately.