Hi,

I just signed up. I started my course but all I dose is notes I can’t hear the instructor can anyone shed some light?

For LR, do you read the stimulus first, or the question stem first? Please explain why.

There seems to be disagreement on this topic across reputable LSAT test prep companies.

Thanks for your insights!

Hello! I have been working on the syllabus but have noticed I don't feel as though I am making great leaps and bounds of success on the topic.. in fact I feel as though I am maintaining or slightly decreasing in skill level...should I go back and redo some problems or just keep chugging forward, going back to review the last month or so?

Hello!!

Excited to be at this stage. This is a long one.

21 Point Increase LSAT Journey Overview

After taking my first diagnostic test with Khan Academy and receiving a 148 I knew I had to get serious about studying. The internet seemed to have many positive things to say about 7sage. I was really into the growth mindset that the program advocates and the blind review process just seemed to make so much sense for me as a tool for learning. So happy I was right!!

Overall the study process took me one year - started in February 2019 and received my 169 score on the January 2020 test. That being said I took about 4 months off for travel/work related/life reasons. When I was studying I averaged 10-20 hours a week. Less if I had other things going on (it's okay to have balance and take breaks). I found myself refreshed and never noticed my skills sliding back after a break which was very encouraging - burn out is so real!!

In one of the 7sage podcast episodes JY suggested that once you are scoring where you want to it might be helpful to sign up for 2 LSATs back to back. It takes the pressure off both takes. I knew the January LSAT was the last one accepted for Canadian law schools and had plateaued in the mid-high 160s (did not need to do better than that to get into good schools here) so I signed up for November 2019 and January 2020.

November 2019 164 Experience

These last 2 points you really cannot control and I think that's the benefit of doing 2 takes. I was so much more ready to let go of the things I could not control because I knew I had another shot.

164: I knew I could probably get into most schools I applied to so I was happy to have this score under my belt. Knowing I had a score that could get me in was a huge boost. However I knew I could do better and was very excited to have the opportunity.

164-169 in 6 weeks

LR Took 2 weeks after reading The Loophole and my November take to really do nothing but the exercises advocated in the book. Really went back to the basics and restructured how I thought about LR. I melded the 7sage and Loophole approach in a way that worked for me. My issue was always focus and timing so the basic translation and advanced translation drills did wonders for me. Little things like not reading the question first made me focus more intently on the argument. After doing these painstaking drills for 2 weeks straight I found myself anticipating answers and being much more efficient. I created an LR problem set that was ALL THE LR questions I had ever gotten wrong during a PT and did the advanced translation drill on that too.

LG Honestly just kept on with ol' faithful: foolproof method. I love it.

RC I did not really focus on RC that much during this time (maybe if I did I would have broke 170.. who knows!) apart from PT and BRing as usual. However I think basic translation drills helped with RC as well .. my issues with RC was getting flustered and losing focus.

After my 2 week Loophole intensive (while doing 2 games a day) I started back on my PT/BR cycle with the purpose of focusing on timing strategy and not score. This is when I hit my first 170. It was a happy day.

Then the holidays hit and I 100% took 2.5 weeks off to see friends and family. So glad I did. Did one more PT/BR - really took it easy and just like that it was Jan 2020 take time.

January 2020 169 Experience

169: I am so happy with my score. Do I think I could do better? Absolutely. If 7sage has taught me anything it's that there is alway room for growth. That being said I am so happy to be ending my LSAT journey here and shifting my focus to admissions.

Takeaways

*I truly think doing these 2 things earlier would have helped me do better sooner

Best resources (imho): 7sage and The Loophole

Best mindset throughout the journey: know you are capable, know your score does not define your worth/potential, take breaks, have balance, do not let this test take over your life!! And try to enjoy the process.

Thanks all!!

EDIT: 2 important things I forgot

So I studied on and off for couple of months then decided to stop to focus on my university studies. I will graduate in May so I will start studying then. But I wanna go on a vacation for 3 weeks on the end of June. So i plan to study for 2 months from Maya-June then take a break and come back and study till October and take the test. Should I do this?

It's been a rough couple months, as I've received several rejections from other top schools, but luckily I was just accepted into my top choice. Thank you 7sage for providing such a supportive community. I can't imagine getting through this without you guys!

I took the Jan LSAT and only got a 160 when I was consistently ptesting at 167 range. I'm fool proofed at LG. I am switching up my study methods to read The Loophole. Hopefully that will improve my LR.

I plan my study schedule, once I'm done with The Loophole, to be:

Monday: 2 LR /BR

Tuesday: Review /2 LG

Wednesday: 2 LC /BR

Thursday: Review /2 LG

Friday: Review question type specific

Saturday: Full PT and BR

Sunday: Break

What do you think about my approach? I am still aiming for 170+.

I have a dilemma and am very torn on what I should do. As a background, I graduated with my bachelors in Spring of 2016 and have been working as a territory manager for a large company ever since. I make good money now, but know this is not a job or career I want to continue in. I have taken the LSAT twice now and increased my second score 6 points from the first and still do not feel as though I have plateaued or fully utilized the best methods in my past studies. Working full time makes it difficult to get all I want out of studying and creates a rigorous schedule. I am working full time and trying to get as much studying in as I can, but often feel burnt out.

My current schedule goes something like this:

Mon-Fri Work: 8am-430pm, Workout: 430 - 530pm, Study: 6pm - 9/10pm, Sleep: 10/11pm - 6am.

Sat/Sun Study: 4-5 hours.

I am basically trying to get as much studying in as I can while working full time but this schedule is monotonous and I often feel like a zombie with no free time or recalibration/relaxation time.

I am wondering if I should quit my job and focus on studying full time to get the most out of my potential LSAT score? I think this would be beneficial but am hesitant about leaving my company. With that being said, what is the trade off for a higher LSAT score and me leaving my job? Would admissions committees look down on my quitting my sales job and being unemployed to study full time? Is having a solid career on your resume for law school applications of any benefit? Does working and studying full time come off as more impactful, or a higher LSAT score while being unemployed? These are the reservations and questions that I have been battling, money is not the issue for me, I have a decent savings I could live off until I started law school.

If anyone has had this experience or has any advice at all, please share! I am open to any opinions or feedback at this point. PLEASE HELP!

Hi,

Can someone who took the digital LSAT tell me how long it took for you to be in and out of the testing center?

Thank you!

I'm getting an HTML5 error on every video despite them working earlier today for me. I've tried different browsers, incognito mode etc. Any advice?

I'm Looking for a study buddy to study for the June 2020 LSAT. Ideally, like to meet up one a week or every other week. Anyone interested please message me!

Hi,

With the February exam ahead, I wonder where the dummy section appears. Does it appear in the first three or last two sections? Thanks in advance.

Hi all,

For those of you who video record themselves PT-ing, how do you transfer the videos from your phone to your laptop?? I'm sorry if this has already been answered and maybe it's very simple, but I just can't figure it out. Everything that I tried has failed.

I'd like to transfer the videos (length is PT length - slightly more than 3 hrs), recorded on my iphone, to my mac. Ideally, I'd like to speed it up so that it's double speed. I might start recording the sections separately, so that would decrease the length of each video to 35 minutes.

Any techies out there - helpppp!

Thanks

Hey folks,

I'll be taking the Feb 22nd LSAT which is just in a few days and I've been wondering how i should be preparing for it. I've been doing PT's for the past two months (3 a week) and despite seeing some improvement, there is still room to grow. Obviously, i'm not asking for a 'miracle' study guide. I'm more concerned with whether I should do one more PT before the exam or work on areas that need improvement through drilling.

After doing many PTs, i can tell my biggest obstacle is the RC section. Hands down, if it's possible to get better in the next couple of days through intensive RC drilling, that would boost my score by a couple of points minimum.

My question is: Do you recommend I doing one last PT, or drill questions/sections that need improvement? If you think the latter is the best option, what advice can you give me for getting better at the RC section in particular within a few days?

Thanks in advance!

James

Can someone confirm the correct way to diagram the word "implies". For example, how would we diagram "X" implies "Y" and "Z"?

Is the below correct?:

X --> Y and Z

Thanks all.

Hi everyone, I have exciting news to share.

We're giving you a free peek into a new set of courses that we're developing in collaboration with professors from top law schools to teach you what you may or may not learn in your 1L year.

I say "may or may not" because the way teaching happens in law school is strange.

You'd think that there's this body of law and that the professor would just tell you what the laws are and then you can learn to apply them to different situations. But that's not how it is. Instead, most professors utilize what's called the Socratic method by which they ask questions of you to prod you in the right direction so you can figure out the answers yourself. The claim is that by so doing, they're teaching you to "think like a lawyer." No doubt it's sometimes successful. But often it's not. If I could sum up my 1L experience with the method in one word, it would be this: frustrating.

I would have preferred to simply listen to professors communicate their knowledge of the law. They had the knowledge. I had an empty head.

So, in some ways, what I'm doing here is an attempt to fix something that had bothered me for years. I'm trying to make legal educational content that J.Y.-from-the-past would have wanted. In so doing, I'm hoping that I'm making something that you, current or future law student, want.

We are preparing lessons for courses that most 1Ls have to take. They are Property, Contracts, Torts, Civil Procedure, Criminal Law, and Constitutional Law.

We have only a few lessons ready in the Property and Torts curriculum, but we're eager to share what we have.

If you have any kind of account with us, including a free account, you'll be able to access these lessons. This won't be true forever, but it is for now.

7sage.com/lawschool

It says that Ultimate gives me 9 months of access to the course, however it says in my account settings that my course expires June 1st. which is about 12 months after I purchased. So when will I not be able to access paid materials anymore?

Is it okay to take a break from lsat studying for a month to commit to other things ? Do you guys think I will lose the flow or the logics of everything I’ve learned so far ? Been studying since October 2019

Hi All,

I'm two weeks into the CC 7sage Premium course. Whilst, I am finding it very helpful, I understand that the arduous exercises assumes a level of time not everyone has. I am sitting an LSAT at the end of March and I know I may only get through the CC with a week to spare.

Hence, would it be best for my improvement to just start taking PTs alongside the CC work now?

There is another LSAT at the end of June that I may take, however, the underlying issue here is that I just won't be sure where I'm at bc I am not doing PTs or at least timed sections.

For context, I am currently taking gap year, I finished my Bachelor's last year and did a lot of things out side of study (except for go overseas) so I am hoping to spend at least 3 months overseas this year so I can come back refreshed for Law - which I expect to be difficult.

Cheers,

Conor

So the title's a bit of an exaggeration, but in a funny ironic way learning logic games actually did serve to better my marriage and family life. I'm a non-traditional student with a 1 year old, a pregnant wife with another on the way in May (yay us!) and I'm trying to balance full-time work + 20 hours of studying a week + "us time" + her time + me time + family time. Whew!!! What the heck have I gotten myself into...

My spouse and I are trying to figure out how to fit all these needs into certain time slots and I think wait: we have 5 things we need to fit into 8 hours on Saturday and Sunday? SOUNDS LIKE A GROUPING GAME!!!! She shakes her head and laughs at the nerdiness. But alas!! We write out the 8 hour time slots we have Saturday and Sunday to fit in time for her, time for me, time for us, time for family and time for studying (5 game pieces) into 8 hours over 2 days. She gets 2 hours (block of 2), I get 1 floating hour (floater), and "us time" has to be either Saturday evening or Sunday morning (but not both). Family time is a floating 2 hour block and if I study Saturday, I don't study Sunday (what's the contrapositive? Sunday -> /Sat). And it worked!!!! Tah-dah, we fit everyone's needs into a small time-frame and we can make adjustments easily due to the gameboard we made. Nerdiness for the win.

So this is pretty funny in that I'm applying what I've learned from Logic Games to real life, but I've actually learned a lot from studying for this test. I'm really thankful for what I've learned on this journey and I'm thankful I've gotten to learn from y'all on the forums and in person!!!!!!!

Best of luck to all of us.

Mark

This March 30th will be my third attempt at the LSAT. My previous attempt saw no raise in my previous score. Even though i thought that i studied a fair bit throughout the summer plus throughout the closing months of the year. My main focus over the summer was logic games, but then when the test came around i got 1 logic game section and 3 LR sections. The previous test that i took was the November test and before that the test i took was October almost a year before.

Right now my main focus is everything. There are about 40 Days until the test and im still not confident. In hardly any section. I do the timed sections of LR, ive just adapted the circle method and going through the whole section over again trying to make sure i have every answer right but i seem to be falling for the same traps.

I feel as if once i hit question 14 of every LR section i get 3/4 of the questions wrong from there on out. I am struggling to get 15/25 correct on these LR sections. Even when i double down and think that my answer was the correct answer most of the time im wrong, especially past question 13 or 14. Its really killing my confidence.

I'm genuinely scared of whats to come, i wanted to start Law School this September as i graduated undergrad this past semester.

How long are people studying per day, I have been doing 3-4 hours a day, but the lack of improvement is getting in my head.

Should i just keep brute forcing these LR sections doing the circle method or the blind review method i think he calls it and hopefully get better? How often do you guys take full tests and how many should i be doing.

I just want to get into a groove where i can take a practice test or two a week and be happy with my score.

Hello,

I am behind my schedule due to the difficulty of lsat test and limited time i have every day. I am on the week 5 of 7sage program right now and I would like to get some advice for studying effectively.

I see that 7sage starts practice tests from 1997 (1 test) and further 2001 (1test as well) in the Study Schedule. However, there are so many tests beginning from 1991. When it is the best time to do these tests starting from 1991?

Is it effective to start practice tests alongside with learning basics of each section, or better to do it after learning all the theory?

Thank you

I've been studying for about a year now but joined 7Sage only about 6 months ago, which is also when I really started to take studying more seriously. I work full time so it took me a while to finish CC but I've now moved on to practice tests. Besides my diagnostic, I've only taken 3 PTs scoring an average of 152 timed, and a 162 BR. I'm aiming for a 165 on the April LSAT but starting to question whether that's enough time to improve my score for a 165. I've already pushed the test date twice because I did not feel ready and knew I would just be rushing to finish the CC. In doing this I decided to delay a cycle so I could focus on getting my best score possible (I'd ultimately like to score 170+).

My worst section is definitely LR (Yes, I have been BRing). For LG I sometimes panic under time pressure/scramble and so I don't get to every game but I plan on fool proofing games until I'm blue in the face. I'm wondering if I should just delay again (really giving LSAC all my money doing this) and give myself the time to get to 170+ on the first try, or if I should still aim for 165 on the April test and at least have one under my belt to get a feel for actually test day.

Any advice would be much appreciated!

For those that retake, how should you pick a section to retake? For example, if you wanna do an LR section, which retake should you do? I assume something farther back so you dont necessarily just remember the answer right away?

Maybe some of the harder sections?

Hello everyone, I just wanted some advice on score fluctuations. So I have an average PT score of 162, and I never really go below that. But on some days I'll suddenly spike up to 167/168 seemingly out of nowhere. What's even stranger is on the days where I feel the least confident and feel unfocused during the test are the days I score the highest. Does anyone have any idea why this is or maybe has had experience with this themselves? I would like to consistently score at these high scores instead of just having random bursts.

Thank you for your time.