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Friday, Mar 13, 2020

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Upgrading

Hey everyone, this question has probably been answered but will I still be able to upgrade my current ultimate course to the ultimate plus course after the 29th of March? Or does that option no longer become available after the 29th? Thanks!

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Hi there,

I spent end of 2018 + most of 2019 going through Powerscore, Manhattan, and other LSAT books. I got into 7Sage toward the end of 2019 with the Ultimate subscription, and I recently finished the core curriculum with all of the practice sets. Previous to 7Sage, I probably took about 10 PTs untimed and timed.

A while back, I remember taking a diagnostic, which was around 158 timed (170 BR). My target score for the LSAT is 170 - 175. I just took the June 2007 LSAT to see how much I improved from my previous score, prior to 7Sage core-curriculum. Mainly just seeing if the BR score jumps up.

But I am pretty worried about my progression... I have been watching webinars and listening to 7Sage podcasts to hear that, many of the sages took 30 - 40 timed PTs prior to maxing out their scores.

If I use that as a benchmark, with 1 PT per week, I won't get there until September - November of 2020. That puts me around the October 2020 LSAT to aim for. But is that too late?

Right now, it looks like I spend about 20 - 25 hours per week, with timed PT on Saturday and Monday - Thursday dedicated for BR, MM, and FP. Friday is dedicated to look at archived problems that I had trouble with. I know it may be silly to focus on the total number of timed PTs, but should I change my current approach somehow to fit in more than 1 PT per week?

Thank you!

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Hey everyone,

I was just curious if there was a way to download the explanations/ videos so that I can use/watch them while out of internet range. I will be heading to Baffin island for work and will not have any access to anything remotely close to the online-digital-sphere!!

Any advice?

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Hello everyone!

I am nearing the end of my prep, I will be taking the LSAT for the first time in April. In order to both help fine-tune some of my own test-taking strategies as well as to give back to the 7sage community that has done so much for me, I would like to offer free tutoring to a few students. It will be first-come first-served and I won't be able to take too many individuals at this point due to my schedule. However, if you are interested, please send me a DM with information regarding what times work best for you and any particular issues you are having that you would like to address.

I have been working with @Sami for awhile now and she has been tremendously helpful for my prep. I started out studying for this test a little over 2 years ago with a 147 diagnostic. I tried the powerscore bibles and got nowhere with them. After coming to 7sage and going through the CC with a fine-tooth comb, I began to average in the mid/upper 160s. However, at this point I hit a wall. I spent months taking PTs and dutifully blind reviewing them but getting nowhere. It was at that point that I started working with Sami consistently on timing and she straightened me out. It took months of working on timing strategies, but I finally began to break 170 consistently.

At this point, I'm averaging scores in the lower 170s with a typical break down of -5/6 between the two LR sections, -3 in RC, and -0/-1 in LG. I am trying to really get my timing even better and begin to more comfortably average in the mid-upper 170s. In general, I am looking for students who are scoring in the mid/upper 160s and are trying to work on their timing strategies in order to break the dreaded 170 barrier. Im happy to help with work on any section. I look forward to working with you!

Regards,

James

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I recently bought an iPad to practice logic games on. However, when I download the PDF and try to start drawing on it on my iPad, a message pops up saying:

“Without the owner password, you do not have permission to save this document. Enter the owner password to unlock saving.”

Has anyone run into this problem? Does anyone know the password? (It’s not the password used to view the pdf on the 7sage site)

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Hi all,

Wanted to say a quick hello again from 1L at Northwestern. For those of you going through the admit/decision process right now (which is already a stressful time), I know that the covid19 situation isn't helping anything. I've seen that several ASWs have been canceled. I don't have any official word on NU's yet, but I would not be surprised if ours is too.

That said, for anyone who is considering NU but unable to make the trip for any reason, I want to try to be a resource. You are welcome to PM me and I promise to be as candid as possible about my impressions of the school and answer any questions that I can. If ASW is canceled, I would guess that Admissions will also do what they can to help students make an informed decision, but throwing my hat in the ring as a resource.

This semester is a little bonkers (as is all of law school lol), so I may not get back right away but I will do my best to help! I know how stressful this decision was for me, and can only imagine how much harder it may be without being able to visit.

Good luck to you all, whether you're in the midst of LSAT studying or making a school decision!

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A summary of the email we received from LSAC:

*March LSAT administrations canceled in: South Korea, Thailand, Japan, Hong Kong, and China

*March North America administrations proceeding as usual, but might cancel if situation deteriorates.

*Any test taker currently registered for the March 2020 LSAT may switch to the April 2020, June 2020, or July 2020 test by 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time, on Friday, March 20, at no additional charge.

*March test takers will be allowed to wear nose and mouth masks and to bring hand sanitizer.

Full text of email:

All of us at LSAC are saddened by the Coronavirus outbreaks affecting numerous countries around the world and numerous areas of the United States. We are working with global, national, and local officials to comply with local health directives and guidance, while striving to address the needs of test takers and schools.

We recognize that candidates may have questions about how the Coronavirus outbreak will affect upcoming LSAT administrations. We have created a Coronavirus resource page on our LSAC.org website to provide the latest information and answers to frequently asked questions. We will be updating this page whenever new information is available, and we hope that it is a helpful resource for you as you advise your students. We would welcome any feedback and any additional questions you or your students have.

The March 30 LSAT in the United States and Canada is currently scheduled to proceed as planned, although the situation could change depending on updates and guidance from local or national health authorities. Similarly, the international LSAT administrations in late March are scheduled to proceed as planned, except for South Korea, Thailand, Japan, Hong Kong, and China, where we had to cancel due to the Coronavirus situation. Should it become necessary to close or move any additional test centers, we will communicate directly with affected candidates and work to reschedule them to another date.

Given the uncertainties around the Coronavirus outbreak, we are extending the date change deadline and waiving date change fees for the March LSAT. Any test taker currently registered for the March 2020 LSAT may switch to the April 2020, June 2020, or July 2020 test by 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time, on Friday, March 20, at no additional charge. We are communicating this new date-change policy directly to all March registrants and encourage you to share it with your students you advise as well.

We also have revised our test day rules in response to the Coronavirus situation, to allow test takers to wear nose and mouth masks and to bring hand sanitizer, if they wish.

For more information about these policy changes, or any other Coronavirus issues, please refer to our Coronavirus resource page.

We will continue to monitor the Coronavirus situation closely and take appropriate actions in accordance with the guidance of public health authorities to ensure the health and well-being of test takers and to provide every opportunity for students to complete their law school admission journeys. Please let us know if you have any questions, and thank you for the invaluable support you provide to students and candidates during such a challenging time.

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sorry for the crazy title, really need help

So I came into studying about 6 months ago with a goal of 167+

Ive been hitting that goal score now under timed conditions doing 2 sections a day for some tests and full tests for others

Scores have been (in order)

75 - 167

58 - 168

42 - 167

43 - 168

44 - 160 (gave up cause frustrated at a game)

45 - 170

46 - 166

47 - 168

48 - 168

49 - 167

50 - 168

51 - 169

77 - 170

As far as how many PTS left, i have all except one of the 80s. And from 54-80 I have all of the evens.

im doing some retakes here and there some days just to keep my mind fresh, and ingrain the logic while learning some new things because I dont remember all the questions considering Ive done em months ago.

How should I prepare for the march 30th exam? Should I take even more PTS cause I have recent ones? Ive heard that maybe I should do one-two more recent ones and end it on a GOOD note, like a score im happy with so im confident into test day.

i dont want to burn too many tests, yet i also want to make sure im fully prepared. I dont want to burn out, yet i want to make sure im doing everything i can to get a high score

For reference, march 30th will be my first take and im prepared to take it in july and september for next cycle as well. With taht in mind, im not sure how many more tests I should do. I also want to make sure i dont "forget" how to do anything until march 30th, obviously. Sorry for long post, please help!!!

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Hi all! Just took my first PT post-curriculum and feeling down. I got a 163 on my first diagnostic in November (weakest section RC) and a 166 just now (weakest section 1 LR but the other I got 88% on...not sure what happened). I work 30 hrs/wk and am trying to find another job (10 hrs/wk), so it's hard for me to study as much as I want to.

I felt like I'd improved since November, having done the whole curriculum, and here I am. I'm taking the 4/25 test, and my goal is 172+. Is there any way I can make this happen, or should I expect to probably take the test again?

Thank you so much for your advice :)

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Hi guys! This is my first post here and my first LSAT course.

My original diagnostic was a 158. I took the October 2019 LSAT and scored a 164, though my PTs were averaging in the 167s towards the end. I have decided to retake the LSAT in August 2020 in the hopes of breaking into the 170s; due to some family issues I have only now gotten back into studying for the LSAT. Is it a stretch to think I can get into the mid 170s in only 5 months? Right now, I can devote a majority of my days to studying, but I will start working within the next two months. What is a realistic schedule I can set for myself? Obviously I plan on primarily using the 7sage course, but I also bought the LSAT Trainer, Logic Games Bible from Powerscore, and LR/RC from Manhattan Prep. I'm not really sure how to incorporate these into my studying. Any help or advice is appreciated!! Thanks!

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Hi Everyone! Just wanted to get some advice as I am new to 7Sage. As my name implies I definitely want to score in the 99thpercentile. I have already been doing pretty well overall. In LR for example I am able to always narrow it down to two answer choices, but struggle to pick the right one. LG is mostly working out the timing issues, as on blind review I came almost always go minus 0 to minus 1, sometimes minus 2. In addition, I have struggled with timing on every section. As I just finished up the the first lessons before moving into main point question types, I found myself doing the questions without consciously looking for all of the referential phrases, comparative statements, context of the argument etc etc. After realizing I needed to be applying what I am learning to improve, I found once I did this I was obviously very slow. I wanted to gain two to three things from this post. First, what was everyone else's experience, especially those who had taken another prep course, like after they had gone through the initial lessons and then started applying the first basic steps. Did you just start the main point questions and go super slow until all of these skills became second nature? Even though I have gotten all of the questions right, I dont want to not apply what I am learning, because I 'll just be wasting my time if I keep doing what I did in the past. Second, what have you guys done to overcome timing issues? And lastly, after having listened to the 7sage podcast, I noticed a common thread of people was to get heavily involved in teaching and in being involved in the forums. My question is: what is the best way to do that? Is it simply to just go through the different questions posed here and writing explanations? Just curious to see what you guys are finding is working best to help improve your score and your overall mastery of the LSAT. Thank you all so much for you time and input in advance!

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One of the biggest barriers to getting the points on questions associated with curvebreaker stimuli and passages is understanding what the heck is going on in the text. Just like you need to understand how the rules of a game function/interact before going to into the ACs, you also need to understand the argument and concepts discussed in a stimulus or passage; otherwise, it's like shooting in the dark when you move into the ACs. Sometimes, I think we take the importance of up-front comprehension for granted. So, I wanted to broach the question to you all: what concrete strategies and/or tools do you use when you come across a complex, abstract text to understand/comprehend that text?

Here are some examples of the tools that I've found helpful/useful:

-translating the stimulus by condensing the language and making it conversational

-drawing out/visualizing

-thinking of examples and plugging them in to the world of the stimulus/passage

I'd love to hear what strategies and tools others use! Please share below :)

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I have read a lot of forums on the lawstudents.ca site and I can't see too many people in a situation similar to mine. I definitely don't see many people admitted anywhere with a GPA as low as mine, so may be that's my answer.

I'm a mature student, I will have 7 years full time professional work experience in an advancing role by the time of application. I have a BScN Hons degree with 3.0 gpa on a 4.0 scale. I will have 5 years experience with monthly court room appearance representing the interests of a maximum secure forensic hospital. I also have a background as an RN working as a Team Leader on a forensic unit. I will have strong LORs, one from a previous professor who knows me well and I got an 87 in her patho class, one from my current manager and one from a Crown Attorney that I appear in court with on a monthly basis.

I have an official LSAT of 158. I am writing again in April with the hopes of raising that score to at least 160, however that's theoretical at this point. I'm also a realist and I think around 160 is probably the "best" I'll be able to manage in my current circumstance, so ya a 165 or 170 would be great but lets not go there.

Given my current score and other information what do ya'll think my chances are for any Canadian schools? I'm an Ontario resident although I would have no problem relocating since even Ontario school are many hours from my current home.

Thanks all for ready and for offering your realistic views :)

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7Sage Course Changes

Beginning on March 29th, our Starter, Premium, and Ultimate courses will no longer be available for purchase.

Instead, we will offer two subscription Ultimate+ options.

The first option is USD $69/month.

The second option is USD $599 for one year (12 months).

Both options are equivalent to the current Ultimate+ course in terms of content access. That means every single PrepTest, the entire Question Bank and Problem Set generator, all the video explanations, etc. In a word: everything. As new PrepTests get released and explanations made, they will be automatically added to your account.

But...

LSAC Changes

In order to use either option, you must have an active LSAC Prep Plus subscription from LSAC which they launched yesterday and for which they charge $99/year. You might have already heard about this from these two posts on reddit.com/r/lsat.

What wasn't mentioned is the fact that with the launch of LSAC Prep Plus, every student who wants to use a prep course that uses real LSAT questions must have an active LSAC Prep Plus subscription. That includes us, 7Sage, and any other LSAT prep course that uses real LSAT questions.

Again, this means that in order to purchase our course once the change takes effect on March 29th, you must have an active LSAC Prep Plus subscription ($99/year). For example, enrolling in our courses will cost:

Option 1: USD $69/month + $99/year for LSAC Prep Plus

Option 2: USD $599/year + $99/year for LSAC Prep Plus

Note that you only need one LSAC Prep Plus subscription no matter how many prep courses you use. That means that if you use prep courses from multiple companies, you don't need to purchase multiple LSAC Prep Plus accounts. You can use the same one. But, and I'm repeating myself, if you want to use any prep course that uses real LSAT questions, you must sign up for LSAC Prep Plus.

Grandfathered Courses

Students who get or already have a Starter, Premium, Ultimate, Ultimate+ course before March 29th will be grandfathered into the course they currently have. In short, this means that these changes do not affect you as long as your grandfathered course is active. You will still have the option to extend at the current rate.

For example, if your Premium course expires on July 1, then you will continue to have access to your Premium course until it expires on July 1. Or you can extend it. You will not need to purchase an LSAC Prep Plus subscription. Again, in short, you won't be affected by these changes. You can stop reading here.

The longer version is that for some but not all of the grandfathered courses, an LSAC Prep Plus subscription will actually be needed. But, if this applies to you, you won't need to pay the $99 fee. We will cover it for you. Obviously, we don't want to incur this fee, but we also don't want you to incur it either.

Questions

These are big changes and you probably have questions. Please ask. We'll collect your questions and answer with an update in a FAQ in a week.

FAQ Update

Question 1:

For grandfathered accounts, what extension options are available?

Answer 1:

Right now extensions are available for 1 month at a time only for $25/month. Soon, we will make them available for 1, 2, or 3 months at a time at $25/month. There will not be an option for automatic subscription for grandfathered accounts. If you wish to keep your grandfathered account active, you must manually extend before the account expires. Once the account expires, it will be gone and cannot be reactivated.

Question 2:

Can I enroll in the new Ultimate+ course (monthly or 12-months) right now or before March 29?

Answer 2:

Likely yes but our system is not yet ready. The planned transition date is March 29. If we can get it ready before then, we will let you know here.

Question 3:

Say it's May and I have a grandfathered account. I know that means I won't have to pay for LSAT Prep Plus ($99) but you said I "might be required to have one anyway." How will I be contacted if that applies to me and what will I need to do?

Answer 3:

If this applies to you then you will receive an invite email from LSAC saying that you have a subscription already. You just have to login to LSAC to accept it.

Question 4:

Currently, Starter, Premium, and Ultimate courses can upgrade and purchase new PrepTests as addons as they are released. After March 29, will this still be possible?

Answer 4:

Sorry, no. After March 29, there will no longer be any upgrades or purchase additional PrepTests addon options. Grandfathered S/P/U accounts (i.e. S/P/U accounts purchased before March 29) will only have the option to extend their existing account (see Question 1) or the option to enroll in the new Ultimate+ options.

Question 5:

Is it a better deal to purchase Ultimate+ now and get a grandfathered account or wait? It seems like it's a better deal to wait since it will be $50 cheaper ($599 + $99 LSAC Prep Plus) = $698 versus right now it's $749.

Answer 5:

It depends. The content and access time for both are the same. The costs are not.

Ultimate+ now is $749 with $25/month extension option.

Ultimate+ after March 29th is $599 + $99 LSAC PrepPlus for the first 12 month = $698. If you need to go over 12 months, you can extend at $69/month but you also need to repurchase LSAC PrepPlus for $99 again because it's an annual subscription.

So, if you're planning to study for 12 months or less, then probably waiting is the better deal. If you're planning to study for more than 12 months, probably getting a Ultimate+ now is the better deal.

For example, assume study time of 15 months.

Ultimate+ now is $749 + 3x$25 (3 month extension) = $824

Ultimate+ after March 29 = $599 + $99 (LSAC Prep Plus year 1) + 3x$69 (3 month extension) + $99 (LSAC Prep Plus year 2) = $1,004

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I was thinking that having a customizable timer for problem sets would add tremendous value, specifically for doing timed LR sections. As it stands you can't take a 35 minute timed LR section if you build your own problem set (unless there's some way that i'm not privy to), which would be really beneficial. Is this a possibility/consideration for future modifications? @studentservice

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So, I’ve recently discovered that some people score significantly less on the actual test as compared to PTs. There is a general “rule of thumb” that you typically score -3 from what you PT at. So if my target score is a 160, should I be comfortably at 163 before considering the real test?

What’s even more scary is I’ve seen that people drop like -8 or more on the actual test. For someone like me who is aiming for a 160, that much of a drop is absolutely terrifying. If I were to drop that much (assuming I’m actually capable of scoring a 160) then my score wouldn’t be near the median of the schools I’m looking at applying to.

This whole concept of test day drops is literally keeping me up at night, especially since anxiety is something I’ve always struggled with. So, right when I think LSAT prep is already hard enough, there is this possibility that I don’t even score what I’ve worked so hard for:(

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Does anyone have a drilling schedule they used/found helpful? Currently going through the pre-made problem sets that 7Sage offers in their entirety, not sure if there's a better approach. Anything helps. Thanks!

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