Hey guys, looking for a study partner for October lsat!

Hi Everyone,

I was wondering if someone knowledgeable on topic could provide their thoughts... how significantly do the preptests in the 60s differ from the most recent preptests (85+)?

I am registered for the August LSAT flex and in the last few weeks, I have gone through preptests 60-66 (timed), consistently scoring at or around my score goal....

Basically, I am wondering if you think the scores I have been getting on the 60s would roughly translate to the newer tests.

Thanks,

P

Hello friends!

I recently shared my story of my 7Sage experience going from a cold diagnostic of 142 to getting a 169 on the LSAT. Many people asked for my study method and I kind of gave a quick run down of how I approached each section. I forgot to add a mildly important caveat.

My studying method has always lead me to rote memorization. I memorize things pretty easily making the generic test a breeze, which is why the LSAT was such a curve ball. There was nothing I could memorize!

After going through the core curriculum, I was overwhelmed by the amount of information to take in and was a bit shook. I decided to go through it again and select some vital data to jot down on some flash cards. I wanted to play to my strengths and use memorization as an approach to the LSAT. I found that memorizing these flash cards made my response times to particular questions quicker, especially with argument flaw questions. Being familiar with the verbiage made it easier to see through the weeds of fabricated confusion that the LSAT writers love so much.

@kkole444 asked me to recreate the cards on Quizlet so they could be shared. So, for everyone who also likes to memorize things as a study method, please feel free to use these!

https://quizlet.com/_8iw236?x=1qqt&i=c0dx3

Happy to answer any questions anyone may have :) Best of luck to all!

-Josh

Note: if creating these/posting these is in any form a copyright infringement of 7Sage, please let me know and I'll take it down immediately.

Hi everyone. I started full-proofing LG in PTS 1-35 and am wondering....

Q1: Is it worth printing out the games I need to continue full-proofing or is it redundant when I can just hop back on laptop, open up my problem sets and re-do games?

Q1a: Is the idea that it is just quicker in general to redo a game and check on my setup/inferences by just flipping over my printed sheet of paper which would have one clean LG and the other side would have the setup?

I dont mind printing, its just taking me a while to print, etc.

Q2: IN ADDITION, how come the games aren't set to print on 1 sheet, each game I print ends up splitting onto 2 pages. Anyone know the remedy for this? #help #admin

Thanks!

Hi everyone. Does anyone have advice on setting up practice tests or making sure that the practice tests are the same format as Flex? Taking it in August and I know that it is now only three sections (LR, LG, RC) and weighted equally. I would love to practice and know my score in this format and I have no idea how to set it up!

Any advice would be appreciated.

Hi all --

I am feeling a little defeated by LR. I've been studying for almost a year and I seriously feel like I haven't improved at all when I see my score. My diagnostic was 153, so there has been SOME improvement. However, I am BRing in the 170s and have gotten 180 before! This gives me SOME hope that I can get there, but what gives? I cannot seem to figure out how to master this section!

For overall PTs, I have scored typically between 160-167 (one 168). I took PT 80 today and got a 161 (-7LR S1, -7 RC, -3 LG, -10 LR S4). The LG score was a bit abnormal for me, it was a reassignment game that threw me off. I am so hoping to get a 168-170 range on my test in July, but I honestly have no clue how to go about improving. I've had a tutor, but that particular person was not helpful for me.

Anyways, I am going to really focus on LR and RC this last month. I wouldn't say I am struggling consistently with one type of question because it truly seems it is all over the place! Maybe principle questions? I struggle with the questions that are level 4/5 in difficulty. I realize a lot of the time I am making careless mistakes either due to misreading or being overly critical of one AC, but not the other. It is very common for me to be stuck on two ACs. Any advice on how to improve AC confidence specifically in the newer tests? I've tried hyper skipping, but still struggle to find extra time at the end to go back or I struggle to refresh my mind and convince myself that I haven't selected the right choice.

For RC, I seem to always struggle with questions that have to do with inferring what the author would be likely to agree with or weaken/strengthen. This section is usually -4 or -7 for me.

What kind of studying should I be doing this last month to close the gap? At this point I am seriously stressing over whether or not it is even POSSIBLE to grab a few more points on the test considering how long it seems I have stayed in the mid-160s..

I would really appreciate any advice!!

Looking for someone to go through prep tests or drill sections with! Anyone interested?

Where on 7sage can you see the difficulty of the full section? The only place I see it is in Analytics after taking a full PT. I want to drill 4-5 star sections of LR, but all I can see when creating a problem set is the difficulty of the individual questions, not the full section.

Hello All!

I am currently studying for the August LSAT date and I am generally scoring in the high 160s with a goal of breaking into the 170s consistently before the exam. Although I am working with a private tutor, I am also looking for someone to BR with, as I have found that having to explain and defend your answer choice to another person on BR is the most valuable form of review. I am looking to BR individual section work (my normal drills are back to back five star RC passages and 15 4-5 star LR question sets) with someone else as well as individual PT's, provided that we are generally taking the same ones (I am currently on test 70, and take two PT's a week). If anyone is interested, just shoot me a PM, and good luck to everyone out there!!!

Hey all, I was thinking about airing a PT as I finish up the LR sections of the course as a kind of benchmark to see how I’ve improved so far. Would that be worthwhile or should I just wait and finish the course?

Did anyone else take PTs during the course? And if so do you think it helped?

Hi everyone, I figured I would ask this here since I am not sure where else to ask!

Does anyone know if we are allowed to use the command F feature on our computers to highlight words within text on the flex LSAT? This would be extremely helpful I think, especially for reading comp. I read someones comment on one of the preptests that LSAC has said they are allowing this, but it seems too good to be true... can anyone confirm (or deny)?

Thanks!

my diagnostic before the course was 136 and i was ashamed so i deleted it and blocked it out my memory and retook it after the course 6 months later (with lots of breaks) and scored a 145. I wasn't ecstatic about it, but there was definitely improvement so i was ok with it. However, i just took my second ever PT a few days ago (been BRing the past few days) and jumped to a 154 :) im not expecting to go to a T14 Law school and have no interest, but this score will most definitely get me into where i want to go with my current gpa, so im very happy to see im even capable of getting this high of a score!!!

(Ps im horrible at standardized test and decided not a worry about the time because that caused me the most stress during it, and my score jumped 9 points from last PT)

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for the spreadsheet that was showcased during the LR skipping strategy webinar held by two former 7sagers (don’t have their usernames) a few months ago. I‘m not having any luck with finding the original thread.

I’m hoping someone was able to copy down the spreadsheet setup they used for tracking LR timing, confidence levels, and I believe the diminishing returns? It was a really cool and different way they used to track their progress besides just recording how much time was spent per question. I ended up not taking notes, expecting the webinar to be recorded and posted on 7sage somewhere so that’s my fault.

Anyway, I appreciate any help! Thanks everyone.

After finishing the LSAT Trainer I hopped on PowerScore LG.

Im finding it excessively wordy and convoluting. Its confusing me more instead of helping.

Anyone else agree with this? Im even thinking of dropping it because it feels like a waste of time

Hey 7sagers,

Just wanted to post in hopes of encouraging people who are in similar situations as I was.

I took my first diagnostic in April and received a disheartening 149. The score only reinforced my existing notion of the LSAT as a terrifying test that I wasn’t sure I would ever do well in. Although I had heard that the LSAT is a skills-based test, I was afraid that I would never be able to do well on it given the immense time pressure. I’m the type of person to work hard but I tend to be a really slow thinker. Reading posts that said people typically never improve more than 12 points only made me more discouraged.

But what can I do! All I knew was that I had set my mind on going to law school and I had to work harder than most people to get the score I wanted. Today marks the 3rd month of serious LSAT studying and I received a 166 on my fourth PT. Although this is by no means as monumental as breaking the 170 threshold, I just wanted to note the progress and encourage anyone who received a poor diagnostic score to just keeping working hard!

I took my first ever diagnostic from Khan Academy about a month ago and scored a 152, and recently took a PT and scored 158. I’m enjoying the CC and it’s definitely helped me approach questions better, but I continue to have significant issues with MBT, parallel method and flaw questions. Any suggestions on how I can improve in these? My approach so far has been to practice the hardest questions from the problem sets. I have plenty of time before giving the actual test, but I’m hoping to see my score hit 165 consistently in the coming months. Hadn’t got time to foolproof logic games till now but will be doing that post improving my LR performance.

Suggestions on how to improve in these areas – especially from those who have recorded drastic improvements – are welcome. Help out a fellow Sager!

Prior to the LSAT I've never really considered why A causes B. I'm very unsure of my definition of a causal relationship and would like to put it out there for everyone to critique.

A causes B if and only if

1. B occurs whenever A occurs (A -> B)

2. B does not occur if A does not occur (B -> A)

3. A occurs temporally before B

For example, say we know that toxin T is strongly correlated with fish dying in large numbers. Say we also know that in the absence of toxin T, fish populations are always high. Lastly, we know that toxin T is always released prior to any die off of fish. Can we conclude toxin T _causes_ the decrease in fish populations?

Hey guys, I wanted to know how you guys take PTs. Do you print them out or do you do them on the website?

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I was excited to get a 170 (-1 LR, -2 LR, -5 LG, -4 RC) on Preptest 79 but got bummed out seeing that with the LSAT Flex converter the score fell to 167-168. I haven't experienced this kind of discrepancy between LSAT and LSAT Flex with any other PTs.

Why is this the case? Can I still "count" the score as a 170 despite the score conversion?

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Hi all,

Am currently studying for the November exam (not my end all, just a first try). I've been going through the CC, specifically the LG curriculum to get myself acquainted but I often feel like I'm not doing enough. At what point did you start doing the fool proofing/taking full length tests? Is it okay to just focus on the CC for now or should I be starting as well?

I am wondering if we need to make a ProctorU account before taking the LSAT-Flex. If so, does anyone know what we're supposed to list as the "Institution??"

Hey guys! I'm prepping for the Oct LSAT and I started PTing a few weeks ago. However I'm stuck at the 160-162 rage with no improvement. I feel I'm not being able to learn much from my mistakes and wasting a real opportunity to improve. Can anyone who was in my place at some point but managed to jump to the 170s recommend their review methods? I want to understand how I should proceed with the questions I got wrong even after blind review and learn from them so I can avoid them down the line.

I found a pattern that I get most Q1 to Q 15 on LR right, but after Q15-16, I start to get more wrong question. Anyone has similar situation like me? Any good suggestions to improve it? Thank you 7sagers!