Is access to the harder problem sets necessary to break into the 160s? Strongest section right now is LR (averaging -5). Thank you!

Hi, I have been here since 2015, but I am now pleasantly able to say that I do not need to extend my 7Sage account any more because I got in Canadian law schools.

I was admitted to the University of Ottawa's law school and the University of Windsor's law school. I have selected Ottawa Law over Windsor Law, and I have recently garnered a deferral of my entry into Ottawa Law by one year to finish my graduate degree in April 2020.

I will never forget JY and 7Sage community as they have always inspired me to focus on my dream and academic goals. I really appreciate it.

Thanks so much, JY and 7Sagers.

Take care and all the best!

Hi everyone,

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Hey friends, I'm going to be practice testing soon and I'm wondering how best to select which PTs to use. Obviously, it's not possible to complete every prep test from 36 onwards (unless you have a ton of free time and endless supplies of motivation) so it's necessary to select a few of them to practice with. Some people have recommended using the most recent 30 prep tests, others have said to choose 20-30 PTs from 36 onwards... what do you guys think? Does it really matter which ones I choose?

Also, how many PTs are we recommended to complete before formally taking the test?

What did the test look like? Is it displayed like the one on LSAC (somewhat similar to “fixed” rather than “fluid” on the 7 Sage beta), or something different?

Was hoping to test it today, but I got the paper-and-pencil format.

My experience with the digital format in PT is that it saves tons of time transferring and correcting answer choices, and thus, alleviating lots of stress.

Hi all,

I'm debating whether or not I should sign up for the September test. I took June (161), and I just took July. My target schools are UNC or UGA, so I believe this is close to the median lsats for either (according to LSN). I'm not sure how I did on July. I had the digital, and I feel like I didn't do too well on RC, but I also felt the same after June. I had pt scores of 163, so I know I can get a few more points, but I wanted to apply right as applications open.

I also don't know if I should sign up for September in case I did poorly on July, and if I don't need to take it again, I can just withdraw (and basically lose $200) or suck it up and take it again, delaying my applications.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Hi guys, I took July 2019 yesterday and didn't feel as though it went too well. I think ill be writing October and I wanted to get advice on whether I should restudy certain topics, try to relearn everything but more concretely then drill and do PTs, or just do PrepTests and review them thoroughly. I have approx. 3 months. Let me know your thoughts or feel free to pm me with any experiences similar to mine.

Thank you guys!!!

Hi I'm registering for the LSAT right now on LSAC and I was wondering how important it was to purchase those 'packages' they offer. Like this one: "Six-report package — includes one LSAT, one LSAT Writing, CAS, and six Law School Reports remove

Please note that purchasing this package does not automatically register you for the LSAT.

You will still need to register for the LSAT separately after submitting your payment."

It's a bit pricy and want to waste money as it is literally 650 dollars for the six package report.

I tell all of my students to do exactly what I did after each time I took the LSAT.

I wrote down my takeaways about the whole experience – the things that went well, the things that I didn’t anticipate and wanted to prepare for next time, and anything else I want to be aware of and improve upon.

As much as you can simulate your PTS to be like the real thing, there’s just something about going to an official exam. Whether it’s dealing with proctors, the air in the room, nerves getting to you, or, of course, the substance of the test questions.

I took the LSAT three times. Each time I wrote down my takeaways in a place where I could access them regularly. For me it was my iPhone in the notes section, for you maybe it’s someplace else. But use that information to prepare for your next take. I used the time before my next exam to replicate the things that went well and problem solve the things that needed to be improved.

Ideally, this will be your last take, but in the chance that it’s not, this information is invaluable.

One last thing – do this ASAP. Whether it’s when you leave the test center or if you need a break, sometime tonight. But make sure you do it while this information is fresh in your mind.

Hi,

I just recently started 7Sage with Ultimate+ and I’m loving it so far. I set my Study Schedule for the next 8-10 months because I’m working full time and am in school. My diagnostic was a 144 and I’m aiming for a 170+.

I’m set to complete the CC by October with 20 hours per week and then I will do one or two PTs with intensive BRing per week. I will continue to PT and BR weekly until I’m comfortable with my score and hope to sit for the real exam by around March/April so that I have June and July as backups because I intend to apply in September 2021.

Is this a good idea? I ask because I’ve noticed that most people study for this exam for three or four months.

Also, does anyone have any advice or tips for studying long term?

I already occasionally read the New York Times opinion articles for fun, but I’m willing to do more of it and pick up The Economist science section to increase my speed and interest levels in the science passages in RC. My school offers both for free to me and I enjoy it, so it’s no hassle at all to me.

Thank you!

So I just got done sitting for the July 2019 lsat. I feel like this is my worst performance ever because some guy in front of me kept bouncing his leg and I could not for the life of me channel it out. I guess that’s my bad for not practicing in conditions where there might be distractions, but I feel as though it severely hindered my performance. This was my third time taking it...if I cancel my score and retake for free like we are given the opportunity to, does it look bad to admissions officers if I have three

Lsat scores in addition to one cancel ?? :(

Does anyone know which 7Sage program I need to purchase for LR and RC video explanations? I need every PT from 1-81 if that’s an option

Hey y'all... I just took the July exam (got a paper version of the test) and realized... I have no idea what's going on with the writing sample. Previously most of the advice given was not to worry about the writing sample. Now that we are taking it on our own time, separately from the test, will the writing portion be given more weight?

Thanks!

So I was writing today in Calgary AB, and U of C. The fire alarm went off twice when we were only halfway through the first section. The proctors ultimately cancelled the test and told us to contact LSAC for further difficulties. I don't want to vent to ruin anybody's vibe but this really sucks. I was so prepared and acing the first section of the test when this happened. And I also had to spend a lot of money just to travel (6 hours by car) just to write which was the closest centre.

I guess if anyone has had previous experience with something like this what is the best way to go about it? Also is there a possibility I can receive any reimbursement from LSAC for wasted travel expenses?

Was worried that the hotel would give me extra noise. Beautiful set up room. Competent 3rd Party testing company that administered it. I didn’t think that anything could out do Spring Hill’s Center, I stand corrected!

I’m sure many of you will be hearing in the next few hours that LSAC decided to cancel the Florida Southern exam due to technical difficulties. I have been studying for the last 4 months and now have to continue studying until September to take the exam which dramatically will effect the next couple months of mine and I’d assume many other peoples lives in the upcoming months.

Probably not the smartest idea to put 85 year old proctors in charge of the tablets the first time they’re ever distributed.

Anyways, has anyone heard of this happening before? Any idea what LSAC will do? Their phones are off the hook right now so I’m unable to get in contact with them. Everyone in the testing center was absolutely furious.

Hi all!

Having taken the LSAT at both Drexel (July 2019) and Temple (2015 December and 2017 February) I thought I would pass along a review for those who are interested. Bottom line: Temple is great, Drexel is terrible.

Temple:

Students are about 15-20 to a room and each has their own table with a chair. You have lots of room for spreading your materials out and the lighting in the room is nice. The chairs are comfortable and there is plenty of leg room. The proctors know what they are doing and it's easy to get in/out, there is a water fountain, and the temperature is appropriate. The parking wasn't an issue either time I went, but those were weekend tests so I would recommend a parking garage for any weekday testing in the future.

Drexel:

One huge auditorium for everyone (60 people?). The auditorium has rows of chairs arranged in three columns (something like 5-10-5 on chair distribution). The geniuses in charge decided to put all of us in the middle column, so that there were four in a row. There is no space to walk out of the middle of the row of chairs without forcing people to fold down their little tables, stand up, and let the person pass. This means that if someone in a middle row needs to use the bathroom during the test, the people on the end will have to put their test away and stand up twice to let them through. When they handed out the test, they made everyone fold down their tables so the person could squeeze through each row of chairs. They then realized they forgot to collect admissions tickets, so they had to do it all over again. Repeat for pre-break and post-break. All in all, it was pretty annoying to have to put your stuff away constantly, especially when they could have put half the test takers on the side columns and thereby created free rows to walk through as proctors. Additionally, the rows are so closely packed together that anyone over 6 feet tall will have serious difficulty being comfortable during the test. I am 5'11" and my back hurt by the end of the test from being in such cramped conditions.

The tables that fold out from your chair are too small for the paper version of the test. The paper extended significantly over the edge, and I broke a pencil tip by accidentally writing off the table. It also necessitated an annoying back-and-forth motion between the answer sheets and the test booklet. I can't even imagine how the tablets are going to fit on these tables with the scratch paper. I think it will prove to be a serious challenge to anyone taking the test there in the future.

The water fountain was also broken at the test center, so there was nothing for people to drink who either didn't bring water or who brought something else (I brought some iced coffee but then had to live with dry mouth for the rest of the exam).

The proctors stamped around as they watched you take the test, and stood VERY close to you when they stopped (I had one basically brushing legs with me at one point).

The room was also insanely cold. I had jeans and a jacket on, and don't get cold easily, and thought it was on the frigid side. I saw one student who only had a t-shirt hugging herself for warmth during the break.

There were also a few semi-inflated helium balloons floating at the ceiling, which could potentially fall on a test taker during the exam. That's not a big deal but it also shows a lack of attention to detail by the test center.

All in all, I would NOT recommend Drexel as a test taking site.

I scored 141 and my BR was 156. My target is 160-163.

My scores were the following:

LR: - 12

LG: -18 😒

LR: -15

RC: -13

After BR

LR: -9

lG: -10

LR: -12

RC: -7

I’m taking the September test. Do I even have a shot? It was the first time i ever did LSAT on a tablet and i was very nervous dor some reason.....

For full disclosure, i was in and still am in the process of FPing games and it’s been a while since I reviewed LR and basically only did RC for a week. Can i get to my target score in 2 months? And if can you guys give me some advice.

The only silver lining that I see here is my BR score is close to my target score.

Help me folks😎

Hi guys!

I am in need of some Hail Mary encouragement but also want to be realistic... I'm taking tomorrow's test haha

I am a full time working professional and have 2 kids. Since sitting the Nov 2018 test as a "base line" (161), I THOUGHT I was seeing drastic improvement in my scores... I sat the March 2019 test and scored 161 again, but our testing center had some unusual circumstances that were distracting (our proctor informed LSAC of the anomalies but we weren't given much choice other than cancel + free test or see your score and no free test... I chose to see my score just in case).

Since March 2019, I've been fairly consistent in my studies and had been doing 1 PT per week... from May to June I was consistently scoring 166-170 and I was using mostly PT Vol 5 and 6 (used other older tests for drills and digital practice).

Well, I purchased PT 87 and bombed it at 159...!! I had never received that score before. Some things I noticed... whereas when I was scoring in the high 160s, I was averaging -4 on each RC and LR sections, the recent PTs are about -10 for RC and -8 for just one of the LR. WHAT GIVES?!

I did notice that these newer tests "feel different"... am I just crazy and stressing out too much or are the differences between Vol 6 and recent PTs (82+) substantial enough to impact test day performance?

Hi All,

Quick Blind Review question: I'm shooting for the September LSAT and the way I've set up my schedule right now is practice exam, followed by 3 BR days, followed by a day off, followed by exam, etc. It's my first week following this schedule and I'm noticing that 3 days (~3/4 hours per day) is actually not enough of BR for me. I take a really long time to write out explanations for all the questions I've flagged, and then I watch J.Y.'s video explanations on questions I'm not too sure of. I'm trying to be as meticulous as possible and to really document every part of my thought process in order to better identify traps and other details. My question is: is it worth taking that fourth day (that's supposed to be a no-LSAT day) to BR instead? So the new schedule would be, exam, 4 BR days, exam, 4 BR days, etc etc. I don't want to feel rushed during BR but I also don't want to risk burning out in the long-run if I get rid of my no-LSAT days.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Thanks

So, My request is that someone should do a new tutorial on how to approach the RC in digital form. Looking at Khan academy exams and 7sage beta, we know that we are using highlighting. But how do we utilize the memory method onto digital exams as we can't write little notes anymore. From Last yr or so, I am practicing for paper exam and suddenly there is digital form which completely throws me off when it came to RC. I hope there is a new tutorial on RC on how to best highlight the reading material.

I've noticed that it seems most students start a PT better and then finish worse. This is big reason why there is a such an emphasis on building up your endurance while taking practice tests.

I however have the opposite problem. The first and second sections are almost always worse (and more mentally taxing) than the later sections. I attribute this to my brain just not being fully awake and I've realized that I need a considerable warm-up in order to preform well.

Anyone else have this problem?

Diag'd a 169 on the Sept. 2006 PT, stuck at a high of 171, plan is to take 2-3 PTs a week leading to the September LSAT. I'm worried about the PT --> actual score drop-off. Anyone else taking September LSAT?

Hello Everyone!

Yesterday I received my score for the June 2019 Asia LSAT and I received my goal score - 173. I am just writing to say thank you to this awesome community. I wasn't particularly active on the forums during my time here, but the few questions I posted were met with some amazing advice that really helped me. Law school applications are insanely competitive, and it's pretty special to see such a large group of students collectively root for each other. It gave me tremendous hope and motivation throughout my LSAT journey.

Also, having used a large variety of study materials (Blueprint in-person course, LSAT Trainer, Powerscore Bibles, Cassidy LR Loophole), I want to take this opportunity to endorse the 7Sage curriculum, especially for what was my weakest section - RC. Many people told me that RC was something too difficult to improve; I went from a -11/-12 average at the start of my study to -2/-3 now, just by practicing the memory method untimed (and then timed of course).

But most of all, I really want to convey this: I am NOT a "natural" at the LSAT. I found this test so unbelievably difficult, and it had me in tears several times. So to everyone who is afraid or hurting because you just can't face another circular game, or another passage about medieval art, or another brutal necessary assumption question -- you don't have to give up. And you certainly don't have to let some subjective, preconceived, bullshit idea about your own intelligence dictate how well you can do on this test.

Anyways, I really hope this doesn't come off as bragging, I sincerely don't mean it that way. I just a lot of respect and gratitude for 7Sage and all of you sagers, and if it's wanted, I would be happy to give some (hopefully) useful advice back to the community.

Hey all,

I know 1L prep is generally not advised. However I was considering "Start Law School Right" by the Law School Toolbox. Can anyone provide feedback? I've looked for reviews but found none. Not sure if this is a new program or not.