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Hey guys,

Hope everybody is staying safe and healthy during this time.

I studied a lot of 7sage (finished LR and RC curriculum) over the summer and made great progress on practice sections, then school hit and didn't have time to keep studying during the year. I'm wondering if anybody has gotten utility out of redoing the core curriculum, or if my time would be better served just jumping back into problem sets and practice tests, since I've already completed cc once? It's been about seven months since I completed the core curriculum.

Any advice/feedback is very appreciated!

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I am planning to take the July 2020 test and realized it's undisclosed. This will be my first time sitting for LSAT

Would it be helpful to see the questions I get wrong? I'm thinking about taking the June test instead because of this

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Last comment tuesday, mar 24 2020

Question for the Sages/170+

I am curious to know if your BR process for any of the sections evolved at all once you started scoring in the 170s or once you were consistently hitting your target score. Did you still spend as much time on the "easier" questions during BR?

Thanks!

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Hi everyone! Hope everyone is doing okay during these difficult times and have all they need (or at least the capacity to get what they need). I also hope you are practicng social distancing and takign advantage of all the streaming services available!

I have decided to take a gap year to really work hard to get the score I need and want before I apply to law school. I am planning to, ideally, register for the September and/or October LSAT(s). I'll have at least 6 months to study for this exam if I use April-May to go through the core curriculum again while doing online remote learning (with a potential pass/fail transcript recording) and I will ideally start focusing on timed practice (PTs and sections) starting in June until the end of the summer and/or until I take the exam. I will be able to study full-time during the summer and potentially until I take the exam. I have not done any kind of studying since October of last year and none of the studying I have done in the last 6 months was consistent so it is safe to say I am starting from square 1, with some knwoledge of the lsat and curriculum.

I would like to get some thougths on a few things:

Reviewing core curriculum again--how do I get the most out of it?

Taking a diagnostic that is not June 2007(since I already have) but an exam that is close to the rigor of what I would expect on the more recent exams

I would like to allot at least 25-30 PTs to take under-timed conditions--- any ideas on the best batch?

Foolproofing--when and for how long (this is subjective of course but please share thoughts and experiences). Obviosuly you foolproof games that you do after PTs if you did not go - 0 but outside of that, what is the best and most efficient way to foolproof The Bundle(also subjective but see above;))?

how many PTs per week when I start timed practice?

The best time to start timed practice (regardless of my timeline)?

Who has done a study plan similar to the one I am doing?

How to avoid/deal with burnout?

Anything else I should keep in mind and/or incorporate?

I am a shooting for a 165 or better and have averaged in the high 140s and low 150s in the past (fewer than ten PTs), but that may prove to be irrelevant given my time off. Anything is possible imo so please tell me how you do this--ups and downs and all if you had a similar study plan and were in a similar scoring range.

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Hello Sagers, with the quarantine in full swing I hope you have all been able to find ample time to study and research ways to further advance towards your goals. With that being said I have been doing a lot of refreshing and with the extra time I have found myself with, went back and listened to some of J.Y.'s podcasts with 7sagers who had great success stories, i.e. 140's-150's starting point to 170's+ on test day. Idk about anyone else, but I find these very illuminating and uplifting, especially when you find yourself frustrated or stuck. These gave me insight to people with similar struggles to myself and dove in to how they overcame them. They help you get off the canvas when you've been knocked down so to speak. Anyway they give me confidence and hope that I can push forward with patience and the proper strategy and setting a high score bar for myself is not an impossible task.

SO would it be possible for J.Y. to do more podcasts with other more recent 7sagers who have triumphed?! Anyway I loved them! If you have heard the past ones, I suggest checking them out.

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Hello fellow 7Sagers,

Do any of you recommend writing out notes while watching explanation videos for harder questions such as NA, Parallel Flaw, SA etc.?

Just wondering because I feel it would really make you engage with the question and really analyze why you may have gotten the question wrong or right. And bonus, you can go back to the notes in case you miss the question again when fool proofing.

Thoughts?

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Is it okay to take a break from lsat studying for a month to commit to other things ? Do you guys think I will lose the flow or the logics of everything I’ve learned so far ? Been studying since October 2019

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Since there are only finite LSAT resources, how do you all feel about/go about retaking practice tests?

I understand that retake scores are not reflective of real test scores at all, but is it still helpful to retake? Is there anything that I ought to do differently for retakes for a more accurate score?

I took a pretty long break from LSAT studies during finals week at school, and have been struggling to get back into it. I figured retaking an old PT may be a good jumping off point as I can get the feel for testing again without wasting a fresh test.

Any advice (re: retakes or jumping back in after a break) would be much appreciated!

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How do you guys deal with LR questions that you don't understand during your blind review? I mean the ones that you spent over like 2+ hours (even over a day) and you still did not understand (that is, even after viewing Powerscore forums). Should I leave them aside for a while? (there aren't that many - two to three - on 6 PTs so far) Would love to hear from someone with a 170+. Thanks!

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Last comment friday, mar 20 2020

March LSAT rescheduling

I was scheduled for the March LSAT, and LSAC said they would automatically put March test takers into the April test. However, online it still says I'm registered for the March test. Do I have to fill out a form or something? Is anyone else having the same problem?

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When I took my diagnostic exam I scored a 151. With the following breakdown:

+11 LG

+17 LR

+17 LR

+14 RC

Raw Score: +59

I studied for two months and I recently scored a 154. With the following breakdown:

+15 LG (+19 BR)

+19 RC (+20 BR)

+12 LR (+13 BR) (I usually get 17-20 right when I practice timed LR and 22-23 BR)

+18 LR (+18 BR)

Raw Score +64

My BR Was +70

I'm frustrated because I only improved by 5 points. Am I being unreasonable for expecting a bigger jump? My goal is to be scoring in the 160s by June, thoughts?

I haven't looked closely at the analytics yet because my brain is fried (just finished the exam). The only thing I want to add is that I cannot believe I got +12 on the first LR section. I haven't gotten below 20 in about a month so I'm shocked by this. I'm thinking it was nerves since it was my first section. I'm not sure. I would appreciate thoughts on the +5.

Thanks!

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Hey guys!

So my lsat journey has been crazy a lot of ups and downs. I have been studying for the lsat for about 3 years on and off, I was never consistent. I would study one week for 5 days, then the next week, 3 days then so on. I would take months off because I was discourage, honestly I had a fixed mindset. I spent so much money for lsat preps. I was ripped off from Kaplan, I signed up for test masters twice, and I bought the power score books, I did so much.

I will not blame the lsat courses because it depends on me. Throughout my 3 years, I feel like I know the lsat, the questions, patterns, and the approaches. It’s not like, I didn’t learn anything at all. I actually learned a lot. This is my last shot. I withdrew my apps last year due to my lsat scores. I have everything all ready. It is just the lsat.

So my last two scores were 133-June 2018, 138-June 2019. I signed up for 7 sage in feb. I can honestly say this time is different, I have been consistent for 5 weeks straight, I’m focusing on the fundamentals, doing the blind review, and beasting on the problem sets. 7 sage has far been the best course I took out of all of them.

I don’t know if I’m deceived, but I believe I can increase my score by 20 pts this time, if I keep being consistent and work hard. So I would jump my score from a 138 to a 158. I guess my realistic goal is to get at least a 150 but I don’t want to settle and I don’t know if that score will compensate my gpa. The lsat is imperative for me to get in to law since my gpa in undergrad wasn’t all that.

So guys, with your honest oppinion, do you think it is realistic for me to get at least a 158 on the upcoming June lsat? Or am I just dreaming and having an unrealistic goal? If so, how about a 150? Like I said previously, I truly have been going hard this time and I notice the improvements.

Please respond with advice, study tips and most importantly be honest.

Thanks,

Louie

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Hi everyone! Hope everyone is foing okay during these difficult times and have all they need (or at least teh capacity to get what they need). I also hope you are practicng social distancing and takign advantage of all the streaming services available!

I have decided to take a gap year to really work hard to get the score I need and want before I apply to law school. I am planning to, ideally, register for the September and/or October LSAT(s). I'll have at least 6 months to study for this exam if I use April-May to go through the core curriculum again while doing online remote learning (with a potential pass/fail transcipt recording) and I will ideally start focusing on timed practice (PTs and sections) starting in June until the end of the summer and/or until I take the exam. I will be able to study full-time during the summer and potentially until I take the exam. I have not done any kind of studying since October of last year and none of the studying I have done in the last 6 months was consistent so it is safe to say I am starting from square 1, with some knwoledge of the lsta and curriculum.

I would like to get some thougths on a few things:

  • Reviewing core curriculum again--how do i get the most out of it?
  • Taking a diagnostic that is not June 2007 (since I already have) but an exam that is close to the rigor of what I would expect on the more recent exams
  • I would like to allot at least 25-30 PTs to take under-timed conditions--- any ideas on the best batch?
  • Foolproofing--when and for how long (this is subjective of course but please share thoughts and experiences). Obviosuly you foolproof games that you do after PTs if you did not go - 0 but outside of that, what is the best and most efficient way to foolproof The Bundle(also subjective but see above;))?
  • how many PTs per week when I start timed practice?
  • The best time to start timed practice (regardless of my timeline)?
  • Who has done a study plan similar to the one I am doing?
  • How to avoid/deal with burnout?
  • Anything else I should keep in mind and/or incorporate?
  • I am a shooting for a 165 or better and have averaged in the high 140s and low 150s in the past (fewer than ten PTs), but that may prove to be irrelevant given my time off. Anything is possible imo so please tell me how you do this--ups and downs and all if you had a similar study plan and were in a similar scoring range.
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    Hi everyone, we've just been told by LSAC that the March LSAT is cancelled due to the coronavirus.

    Future LSAT administrations have not been canceled yet.

    If this affects you, please let us know (studentservice at 7sage.com). We will extend your course for +1 month.

    Full text of email:

    All of us at LSAC are saddened by the COVID-19 outbreaks affecting so many countries and communities around the world. Our hearts go out to all of the individuals, families, and communities that have been affected. We are working with global, national, and local officials to comply with local health directives and guidance, while striving to address the needs of test takers and schools.

    Due to the growing COVID-19 emergency, LSAC has made the difficult decision to cancel the March LSAT administration worldwide, consistent with the advice of public health authorities. Candidates will be rescheduled for the next test administration in their area and offered additional scheduling options should public health authorities continue to limit travel and in-person interactions later this spring. LSAC is working closely with its member law schools to help assure a smooth enrollment process for candidates who may still be planning to apply for fall 2020 admission.

    Cancelling the March test is a difficult step, but we believe it is the most responsible course of action to protect test takers, testing personnel, and the broader community in a fair and equitable manner that does not result in disparities in access to testing for vulnerable populations or candidates from different regions. As you know, public health authorities are urging (and increasingly mandating) immediate proactive steps by businesses, organizations, and individuals to limit travel and interactions to slow the spread of the disease and help our health care systems keep pace with demand that could otherwise be overwhelming.

    We are taking swift action to try to ease the impact of this cancellation and to support all law school candidates during this crisis. We know the candidates you advise may have many questions, so I want to let you know what we are doing, including the following steps:

    All March registrants in the U.S., Canada, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands have been automatically registered for the April 25 test in the community where they were registered for the March test. All March registrants in other regions have been automatically registered for the June test in their locations. We know that with widespread university closures, travel restrictions, and other disruptions caused by this crisis that some candidates may wish to change locations. Our staff are available and eager to help; candidates who prefer a different date or location, or any other change, should please contact our Candidate Services team at LSACinfo@LSAC.org or 215.968.1001.

    While none of us can predict how the COVID-19 virus situation will evolve, we are hopeful that the April and June tests will be able to go forward as planned. We will continuously monitor the situation and provide updates as necessary.

    Given the uncertainty of this evolving crisis, we are also aggressively exploring options to administer the LSAT in alternative ways that will best protect the health and well-being of test takers and the broader community. These alternatives could include secure remote-proctored tests, an additional spring/summer administration, and other options that would meet evolving public health guidelines.

    We are working with our member law schools that are still accepting applications for fall 2020 enrollment to help expand flexibility on deadlines for their candidates. We applaud our member schools’ support of candidates and are confident that our admission community will continue to respond to this crisis with compassion and agility. We are also supporting our member schools as they move from in-person to on-line support of admitted candidates as the enrollment cycle for fall 2020 concludes.

    Thank you for your support, and the support you provide to students and candidates. Please don’t hesitate to reach out if you have questions.

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    Hi all,

    As many of you are undoubtedly aware, these are some very difficult times for a myriad of reasons. These are also some very lonely times, and it's looking like isolation/quarantining will be happening for some time until things start to settle down. I wanted to share some quick thoughts on the importance of mentally reframing this period of isolation in the context of studying for the LSAT. As someone who relies on socializing and going out into the world regularly (I spend most of my time away from home because I love being out and about and staying busy all the time) to stimulate me, I've been quite nervous about how to prepare myself for hunkering down at home for the next few months. This is, of course, FAR from the biggest issues many people are currently facing, and I am immensely grateful for the fact that my family is still healthy and that I have a home in the first place. But I know the difficulty of isolation is on a lot of people's minds because we're all social creatures who are used to our freedom to move about whenever and wherever we please.

    For those of us who have been planning to take the LSAT sometime this summer or beyond (or who just generally have more time to study now), it's important, in my opinion, to reframe this time of isolation and try to view it as an opportunity to truly get at the core of our LSAT journey, which is self-discipline and transformation. Isolation is a curse in many ways, but it's also a blessing. In the immediate context of the LSAT, it eliminates virtually all distractions and forces us to sit down and to study. Beyond the immediate context of the LSAT, it pushes us out of our comfort zones, puts us back in touch with ourselves and the things about ourselves that we should work on and improve, and reminds us of what's truly important. This may seem very abstract and irrelevant, but in my view, it's all part of the LSAT's transformative journey. If we're spending months and even years studying for this one exam, then we should absolutely view it as a transformative journey and try to connect it to as many aspects of our non-LSAT lives as possible. Given that the LSAT is definitely a psychological test, it can be tremendously helpful to take this time to work on our mental strength and resilience, all of which will inevitably influence our LSAT work. And as important as confidence is when practicing for and writing the LSAT, humility and selflessness is also just as important - for one, it allows us to understand and accept our weaknesses so that we can work on them and turn them into strengths. So we should also take the time to offer some extra support to our friends and families and do what we can to help out the more vulnerable members of our society during these trying times.

    Stay safe everyone, and happy no-distractions LSAT studying!

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    Last comment wednesday, mar 18 2020

    Editing BR Scores

    I converted a PT to the paper format so it would be easier to complete a broken test and submit my answers afterward.

    Where can I input my BR answer choices? Without BR answers, my analytics could be a bit askew.

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    Last comment tuesday, mar 17 2020

    What's your BR method?

    I've watched a few webinars on how BR should be done and read a lot of post on what some people do. I'm just curious which kind of BR seems to be more helpful/liked among the community! I'll give a brief description of each option below;

    Option #1: You create a new copy of your PT and retake all the questions untimed. This way you don't see your previous AC you selected.

    Option #2: You use the same copy PT and review the questions you circled. Comparing the AC you circled to the other AC.

    If there is another way that you review I'd love to hear about it!

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    Hi everyone,

    Like a lot of people here, I was registered to take the March 30 LSAT and now am figuring out what to do with my time between now and the April 25 LSAT (hopefully no later than that, but we will see). I felt ready to take the test in 2 weeks but am hoping to see this as an opportunity to push my score into a really solid range-- with that, I was wondering if people had suggestions for what to do.

    My last 6 PTs have been 173, 170, 173, 177, 171, and 173. I would love to push my score from the low-170s range into 175+ with these extra 6 weeks. I would say I average -4/5 total on LR (both sections combined), -0/2 on RC, and LG is my weakest/most volatile section with -2/4. So far for studying, I have been taking 1 PT per week but will probably push that to 1 every 4 days now. My classes are also online so I will have more time on my hands.

    So with that said, any suggestions about how to maintain and improve over this uncertain time? I have no real urgency to take the LSAT this spring as I am not applying to law schools fall 2020, but I would love to get it over with. Thank you all, and stay healthy!

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