Hi! I have been noticing lately that I miss most of my points on easy games (1 game) and not the hardest LR (8-15) questions. So far, RC is my best part given I have seen them before from PTing, but the same should hold for LR and LG. I am currently going back to the basics and drilling LR and LG by type, but I feel like it has more to do with my mentality than skills.

Anyone encountered that before and managed to break that? Would love to hear any advice.

Stats (average): LG -1~3, LR -5~-7, RC -0~-2

Many thanks!

Hi guys! I am PT ing in the mid 150's (157, 156, 155, 153) but my Br is always mid to high 60s! Time is my WORST enemy. For some reason, my actual score has decreased while my BR has increased. Is this normal or should I be worried?

Do you think it's realistic to have a goal score of 163? I am planning on taking the test in March and June. Any suggestions as to how I should ramp up my studying in the mean time? I really really need to hit the 160's!

hi all,

while I did see other posts asking which is better between 7sage/powerscore, I am not sure what preparation stage the other members were at when asking their question.

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For me, so far, I consider myself to be still learning the fundamentals. So far, I have read the trainer and bibles. While they have helped me tremendously in reducing incorrect answers when I drill untimed, i feel that I am still not being able to apply what I learn properly.

For instance, on LR, I feel like i don't have much of a problem understanding the lessons about what flaws are, what needs to be looked for, what causes an argument to be come strengthened, etc. However, when I do actual questions, my greatest struggle is not in knowing what to look for, but rather in being able to understand how to apply lessons to actual LSAT questions. Similarly, I feel that I am still missing questions untimed on RC.

while i have read the bibles so far, i don't think I mastered them...I read them rushed when I didn't know exactly when I would take the exam, so i am cosidering reading them again. I wanted to ask that given my weakness specifically in having a shaky foundation, do you guys suggest self studying again(first attempt at this was not as serious as my full potential) with powerscore/manhattan and then 7sage for polishing or 7sage for foundation?

I know that drilling is good for building foundation and ingraining the correct thought process which is what i plan to do intensely regardless of which one i go with..I just am looking for the course that better teaches the though processes so i can better apply them to drills. I also have all the practice tests so I don't find it helpful to join a course just because of all the preptests..mainly looking for the one that teaches the techniques better so that i can apply them more properly!!

Thanks so much

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I unfortunately underachieved on my November LSAT. Realistically I think I'm going to be looking at waiting until next cycle, but I've been advised to throw a few applications at a couple of T-14 reach schools as there isn't much of a downside. My one worry is that I'm interested in public interest work and so was hoping to get some scholarships. The prospect of paying sticker price isn't super appealing and I'm worried that even if I do beat the odds and get in the money still might not make sense this cycle. My question is, how much would it hurt your chances next cycle to be admitted somewhere but decide not to go and then reapply? I was advised that as long as you wrote them a nice note it shouldn't be a big deal but I can't help but thinking a school might look sideways at you if you were to reapply after already getting in. Any insight is appreciated.

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Curious to hear from the 7Sage community about BR strategy. Not sure if I need to go back to the CC to get a better grasp on it, but hoping people could provide constructive criticism to my approaches- I feel good about my BR approach for RC and LG, but not so for LR.

LR: Do you do the whole section over again and do it untimed (while being mindful of questions that are taking longer than 1:25) or only the questions you got wrong and circled? I usually do the latter, but I wanted to see if anyone has benefited from the former or another approach. I want to get the most I can out of PTs, but I do not want to spend so much time BRing to the point where the additional time I put in does not improve my learning.

RC: I read the passage and type out MP, purpose, tone, viewpoints, structure and paragraph summaries in a word doc and do the questions and then watch JY's videos to compare passage analysis and question approach.

LG: I usually just try and do the section again without watching the videos (and try to finish the games under timed restraints) and if I am really stuck I will go to the video to point myself in the right direction. After the section is done, I watch the videos to see how I could improve game board set up and how I can better approach questions (eliminate ACs quicker and developing instincts to test one AC over another).

#help.

Hi everyone,

This past June I took my first LSAT, and didn't do well. I underestimated how hard the exam would be, and tried to cram studying for it. I made the decision at the beginning of this semester (August) to quit studying for the LSAT, and to keep my GPA up. As of two weeks ago, I graduated from college. Since then, I have enrolled in the course, and started CC. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions/comments/advice about how to take on learning CC? Maybe something you would do differently? Or something that worked for you? Anything helps, and thanks in advance!

Hi all,

I was just wondering how people would advise BR-ing an official test? It's been so long and I don't remember much from the test, nor have I looked at the questions I got wrong (specifically discussing november administration). Would it be better to take it as a timed test and then BR it extra carefully, afterwards checking what I missed in the official test, or to just BR the whole test? Or is there some third method that's best advised?

Thanks in advance :)

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Hey Everyone, I've got a friend who's pondering studying for the LSAT. Was wondering if you guys/gals might know a short introductory article or video that would help better explain this exam?

Hi everyone,

I have a bunch of untouched older material (PT 1-18, 29-35) that I planned to utilize for my January retake. Am I shooting myself in the foot for studying from these older PTs/would I be better off retaking newer PTs?

Would love any advice y'all can provide. Thanks!

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Hey everyone! So I am looking to take the LSAT for the second time this coming January. I took the November LSAT and scored a 145, which I know is not too great. I did self study and I am quite scared to take this again and end up with the same score. I don't know which direction I should go in. My goal is learn and study as much as possible to raise my score to the 150s. If anyone has any advice or recommendations, I would really love to hear them!

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I currently go to UC San Diego and took 20 units this past quarter while studying for the LSAT for about 2months(ish) and scored a 143 with little to no sleep before the night of the exam (insomnia) I took around.. 1-2 practice exams with no Blind Review at all, kind of just went in and hoped for the best (I know I’m stupid; However I did Volunteer work for a US House Member and worked full time). This time around I’ll be studying for a month with 7sage as well as an in-class prep course offered by my University.

I’ve read online that the average score for URM (Black Males) at T-14 schools is a 159

My stats:

I'm a first-generation Black Male

Born in Brooklyn, New York raised in the SF Bay Area (Grew Up in Rough neighborhoods, Gangs, Drugs, Violence)

I speak French (Parents are Political Refugees from the Ivory Coast; Left during the War)

Father has wrote books; has a Doctorate Degree from a Univeristy in Milan, Italy

Father left mother in Middle School; (Single Mother)

Interships one in Sacramento and one canvasing for Congressman Mike Levin

With roughly 5 weeks before my exam do any of you believe that I can score a 157 if I take this seriously.

I’ve heard of people going to 140 to 160’s but with the time constraint I’m affected by as well as the impact of soft factors on my application and the presitge of my current University I believe that a 157 could help me. Do any of you believe that high 150’s is a realistic goal?

– Thanks!

Hey guys,

I tried to find JY’s post about which watches he recommends to no avail.

I’ve read a host of discussions, but still am not sure which one is the best choice and how to use it effectively?

Thank you in advance 😌

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I'm planning on using 36-50 and using PTs 60-72 for actual PTs. I might use PTs 50-59 for drills and purchase PTs 73-84 on Amazon. Please advise.

I suffer from anxiety and I find that when I am doing the PT I get very stressed and cannot write neatly / stay focused.

Do you have ay tips on how to stay calm during PTs?

My score changed 15 points from when I am timed and when I am not!!

I recently took the November exam and got a 154, a one point decrease from my July take. My LSAC GPA is a 3.48. I have been on 7sage for about 3 years with multiple life interruptions mixing in. Its quite disappointing to have invested so much time and be on the outside looking in of where I wanted to be. I made many, many mistakes to say the least.

Anyway, I'm not sure where to go from here. I have a full time job now working for the local county government and I'm just not sure what I should do with my dreams of law. I would still love to be a lawyer! And I truly loved 7sage and how they taught everything. I just couldn't ever seem to make the mental leap necessary. I started at a 148, dipped down to the 130's, rebounded into the mid to high 150's, even got a 160 on a PT but couldn't quite get to where I needed to be.

I'm 26 years old and am starting to get weary of making too many crazy moves. Law school is a big deal and the money is a huge investment and I don't want to be some lawyer on a billboard chasing ambulances. I'm not T-14 or bust but I'm not going to go to a regional school and pile the debt on. I know this community has a good bit of wisdom so I'm humbling asking for your thoughts. Thanks.

Hi guys,

I was wondering if you guys notice any interesting things about taking PT's and getting jumps in gains on the LSAT?

For example, was your improvement really gradual and incremental, or did it increase in leaps (occasionally with plateaus) after recognizing a certain thing or concept, or just reviewing why you missed certain questions? (i.e. 150 -> 152 -> 154 ->155 -> 158 , etc.)

Or ( 150 -> 152 ->158 -> 157 -> 164 -> 165, etc.)

For me, I noticed my score tend to increase in "leaps." Though I'm not sure if this is due to just starting and going through newbie gains, or actually starting to recognize patterns. (I feel like there can still be a huge improvement on my timing, and I'm trying my best!)

Just curious on how people got these improvement stories of stuff like 150 -> 162 -> 17X or, 162 -> 17X (how I did it, tales. For example, through incremental improvement, or just bounds of improvement and periods of plateau, then major improvement then stability again.)

Thanks!

I've been having a lovely discussion in another thread and I happen to be on a very strict time table that can't be altered so naturally the subject arises, to postpone, is that possible? Unfortunately I pretty much have to start in the fall of '19. Having started in October I'm taking the January LSAT and hoping I score high enough that a mediocre GPA with an excellent addendum and some exquisite personal statements and LORs and the moral purity of my intent will be enough to compensate for the lateness in the cycle. So naturally, maybe, but maybe I don't get admitted anywhere in the top 14. Then what?

I'd love to attend pretty much anywhere, though. I'm thinking T14 or bust because all of the information that can be found in a cursory search says a JD from essentially anywhere else may as well be your corpse, as our rarer monsters are, painted on a pole and underwrit, "Here may you see the effect of irrecoverable debt."

My desire for the T14 in this sense is entirely practical; prestige has no effect on me. Of course some of these places like Yale are dream places because of the rare opportunities they represent and how Harvard and Yale have a couple of the largest libraries on Earth. Yet the Socratic method works as well at any ABA school, does it not?

My grandfather was an attorney. For undergraduate he went to Columbia. For law school he went to Fordham, where he got his JD in 1950 at the age of 29. He went on to have a terrific career and life, and died a well loved old man. His command of conditional logic was a thing of divine elegance. However, 7sage says they're 29-37 on US News in the last few years. Could things really have changed so dramatically in only 68 years that I may as well not go to Fordham if admitted? Where would I find the data?

I mean, I figure, I'm legacy, they have a great location, my grandfather always spoke very highly of them and their requirements are marginally less strict than the T14. I don't doubt my ability to top my class at this point in life. Yet would this be to acquire a hopeless debt?

Where is the exact line past the T14? Seems like UCLA is sometimes 15. Being one below the T14 couldn't be a death sentence, could it? Also their admissions policy seem friendly to me for a variety of reasons. I'd prefer to be anywhere in Pennsylvania to North Carolina but Duke is 11 and PennState is 74! I mean, University of Pennsylvania, hope for a miracle, but, woof.

I’m taking the January test and in full swing of my PTs. What I’m finding is more recently, I’m getting easier questions wrong because my thought process is something like, “oh no, this question couldn’t possibly be this easy” or “what am I missing? This has to be a trick question.” And then I’m getting these easy questions wrong. Is there anything I can do to combat this?

I am thinking of seating for the June 2019 Exam. Does anyone has taken the exam in Georgetown or Albany? If yes, how was your experience at these centers.