Hi everyone,

I would like some advice on what I should do. I am registered for the January 2019 test, which is 1 month and 11 days away. I have yet to reach my goal score of 165 on a PT. I have taken 8 PTs (1per week) since I completed the CC, my score breakdown is as follows:

PT37: Actual - 152 BR: 166 (RC:-6, LR:-12, LG:-11 LR:-10)

PT38: Actual - 154 BR: 171 (LR:-9, LG:-9, RC:-9, LR:-9)

PT39: Actual - 158 BR: 165 (LG:-7, LR:-10, RC:-7, LR:-8)

PT40: Actual - 155 BR: 165 (LR:-6, LG:-5, LR:-13, RC:-10)

PT41: Actual - 156 BR: 166 (LR:-10, LG:-7, LR:-8, RC:-8)

Then I decided to skip to the modern tests to give myself the best shot at a potential January LSAT

PT73: Actual - 151 BR: 166 (RC:-14, LR:-8, LG:-10, LR:-10)

PT74: Actual - 150 BR: 165 (LR:-8, LG-14, RC:-13, LR:-9)

PT75: Actual - 152 BR: 167 (LR:-13, RC:-11, LR:-8, LG:-8)

Right now I am trying to adapt to the perceived heightened difficulty of the newer exams, particularly in RC (although I need to make improvements across the board). Was it a bad idea to skip from PT42 to 73?

My rational for wanting to test in January is as that I am an anxious test taker and feel like experiencing the real test will allow me to be more relaxed if I have to retake (probable). Also, since most law schools only care about the highest score and there is no limit to how many times one can test, I feel like I might as well try.

I am also registered for March 2019 and plan on taking June and July if need be.

I work part time while studying for the test and will continue to do so until I reach my target. My daily study schedule looks like this:

7 days a week:

from PTs)

This makes it all the more discouraging as my score has gone down, but I'm confident I will reach my goal eventually.

I feel as if the majority of my missed points stem from sacrificing accuracy in the name of trying to get 2 passes at the questions in LR. When I take a fresh PT I usually get to the last question in 29-30 minutes, but have rushed through and doubtless circled too many questions to review the rest in 5 minutes.

Should I take January to get the real "game-day experience" and hopefully feel more relaxed when I go for a re-take or do I postpone? My gut says to take a shot.

Any advice is appreciated.

how many questions are in test bank in total? I see Logical reasoning has 611 in total. Thinking of purchasing additional access to more if available.

Thanks!

My question is whether I should learn the basics for all LR and Logic games and then proceed to attack the quizzes and tests with the Blind Review method? Or should I follow the core curriculum and not skip any parts?

Thank you!

took PT 72 this past week. Man I got pummeled. Tough LR, RC, and LG. Anyone else feel this PT was really hard? Even with the curve, I still felt it was really really hard.

Hi fam!

So, I'm currently in the struggle to get your actual score to match your BR score phase. The problem is, I'm actually pretty accurate when taking the LSAT timed. I'm just not getting to everything.

I'm really getting discouraged. Everything I've tried (i.e. reading for structure for RC) has had very little effect so far. In fact the only improvement I've seen is in LR and pushing for 10 in 10. I could really use some advice for RC and LG especially.

Thanks so much

p.s I guess D on everything I don't have the time to consider

So I scored 3-4 points lower than my average on the November LSAT, but still have a score that is worth applying to some schools in the T20-40 range. My plan is to move forward with applications, but I am studying for a retake because I know I can do better. I won't write the January test because I would like to have more time to study and reach my full potential, so I suppose the goal is March. If I get some great offers with my current score, I can decide after receiving my March score whether or not to accept those offers. The upside is that I will go to law school knowing I did my best on the LSAT, and won't have to struggle with the fact that I did not reach my target score in November. If I commit to delaying a cycle, I have March, June, and the digital July with a free score cancellation to work with and I'll be able to apply the day that applications open up.

My plan for studying: One section with thorough BR each day during the workweek, plus drills, and one timed full length PT on Saturday mornings with thorough BR for the rest of the weekend. I will use old PTs, including those which are used for the core curriculum, for the single sections. I still have a ton of fresh new PTs that I can take every Saturday too, and I can use those as a reasonably accurate indicator of my scoring range.

I reviewed every PT I took before scoring, but not as thoroughly as I could have. After taking a single section, I find that BR is less daunting and I have been writing out my explanations of circled questions and rewriting answer choices/stimuli to make wrong answers into right answers. Basically, I'm committed to doing BR better.

I guess my goal with this study plan is to increase the amount of quality studying I do each week. Before November, I only took 17 PTs and averaged way less than 2 per week because I had trouble finding time for multiple full length PTs around my work schedule. If I score close to my previous average score in March, I would consider delaying until next cycle and taking advantage of the benefit of applying early and a 3-4 point increase. At the same time, I feel I could score even higher than my current average by sticking to this study plan. I am confident that with 20-30 extra PTs under my belt, and more mastery/consistency in LG/RC, my score range will jump to the top few percentiles. That's where I want to be. Any thoughts or comments are welcome :)

I am so confused.

I had been writing PT's for two weeks prior to the November LSAT and averaging in the 155-157 range. Feeling confident, I took the November LSAT with no issues with anxiety, or time management during the test. Yet, 3 weeks later, I find I have done just as bad as my original diagnostic test...

My Logic games and RC sections were both WAY below average. Does anyone have any tips to improve marks? I feel as if I have been hit by a bus with this mark.

Per LSAC:

Registration for the June and July 2019 LSAT tests will open in early January, along with a new Digital LSAT familiarization tool.

-Our free Digital LSAT familiarization tutorial will be available in the test prep section of LSAC.org starting in early January when registration opens for the July 2019 test. Using any internet-connected device, you will be able to see all the details on how the tablet test works so that you can feel confident on test day.

-We are also developing digital test-preparation materials for use on your own device.

For more info, please visit: http://bit.ly/DigitalLSAT

I took the LSAT in September and I'm planning on taking it again in January. Prior to the September test, I was scoring well on my practice tests. Then on test day I freaked myself out and my nerves wrecked my score. I'm terrified this is going to happen again in January and I'd hate for something like that to ruin my chances again. I really need January to go well because I want to be admitted for the fall of 2019. If anyone has any tips to get over the test day jitters, please please please let me know what helps you. I think the timing aspect of the test, along with being like "oh sh**, I'm actually taking this right now," really got to me. I rushed through the questions because I was nervous I was running out of time and I was overthinking everything.

WORDS OF WISDOM APPRECIATED!!

I received multiple fee waivers from schools in the T-14. However, my lsat score is a 161. Should I get excited by these waiver, or do they send them to everyone with scores similar to mine. I'm also a urm so I was wondering if this is why I'm being sent them.

Just wondering if there is any one in the downtown area in NYC city wanting a study partner or study goup. Let me know if interested. I am planning on taking January Lsat and we can all meet in the library.

I got a 164 on the Nov test and was a bit disappointed. I was PT'ing at about a 167 for the 2 months before the test. The majority of those tests, however, were older ones (in the 40's and 50's). Right before the actual test, I took tests 82, 83, and 84 and got a 164, 167, and 166 on those respectively. My goal was to attend Notre Dame, Emory, WashU, or Vanderbilt in the fall with a decent amount of money off, which is now looking slim. I was wondering if I am better off applying now with my 164, than I would be with let's say a 165 in Jan. Another fear I have is that schools I can get into now (for example a Minnesota or Wake Forest) will delay my app if I retake and that I could lose out on $ that I would otherwise have applying now without retaking. Any thoughts?

I need to improve around 10-15 points for what my goal score is.. I know this is a lot however I have had no previous tutoring and also know it would take time for this score to gradually come up. However, is this the program I should be using to improve my score? I am planning on buy the 3 month package.

I have heard so many things about how many times you should and should not take the LSAT, I am wanting to get into the University of Oklahoma and my score was not high enough to do so from the November test. (I am wanting to apply when I will receive scholarship) However people have told me not to take it too much because that will look bad? I was thinking as long as I improve each time I should be okay right?

Hey 7Sagers,

We're posting on behalf of a 7Sager. They would like to get advice from you!

I self studied for two months and took about 10 full practice tests under timed conditions. From these prep tests my diagnostic was a 153, my average LSAT score was a 167, and I managed to break a 171 on exactly one of the tests. It might be worth noting that my highest score was on an exam that had a relatively simple logic games section and did not feature comparative reading passages, which the test I used for my diagnostic did include.

I finally sat for the November LSAT and left feeling unsure of how I did. I missed one entire game due to my pace and had to guess for all of its corresponding questions. Therefore I assumed that my score would at least be saved by my LR and RC performance, which I was respectively averaging -2 and -3 per section during my prep tests.

I received a 156 on my real LSAT. Needless to say I was completely disheartened upon seeing the score, but have since done a full review of the questions I got wrong and am currently looking to improve and try again.

I got around 8 questions wrong per section. A noticeable pattern for the LR questions I missed was that upon Blind Review, I noticed that each of them featured question stems that I was unable to immediately identify. I had to return to my LR Bible to pinpoint their exact classifications. I was able to get most of the right after my BR.

For more context, I entered the exam with absolutely no reading comprehension prep. I just ordered the bible this weekend. I spent the two months of prep devoting around 4 fours five days a week to LR and LG. All the way leading up to the real exam, I was unable to complete most logic games under 8 minutes, but I was completing them with 100% accuracy at about a 15-10 minute average.

Considering all of this information, what do you suggest I do to maximize my potential on the next exam? How should I make the most out of the time remaining on my 7SAGE account. It expires in Feb and I have to retake in Jan of 2019 given that my heart is 100% set on attending law school in the fall of 2019.

Hey everyone,

So I used the law school predictor tool using my stats as a URM: 3.39 and 152 LSAT and it says I have a 79% chance?

I don't mean to undermine the methods here, but it almost sounds too good to be true. Anybody have experience applying here or know anybody with similar stats as mine and how they may have fared?

If it helps to know I also have a Masters and have been a bilingual middle school teacher for 5 years.

Any help would be appreciated, thank you so much!

Hello All,

I have been working a full time job for the past 2 years since graduating college. I see a lot of people here have taken a part time job or quit working altogether to study for the LSAT. I think that's a great idea, but not realistic for me. I need the full time pay and health insurance that a job provides. If anyone has advice on how they balanced a full time job and studying I would love to know. I had to delay another year because I was unable to find the balance between studying and working. I am afraid that delaying the test will just end me up in the same position as I am in right now. #HELP

I’ve taken the LSAT 3 times. The first was in Sep. 2017, went in somewhat blind and got wrecked by reading comp, scoring 157. Panicked, I registered for the Dec. 2017 test with only days before registration closed. During the 6 weeks I had to prepare I took advantage of all the free materials 7sage has to offer and obtained a 161.

I applied to schools with this score and my 3.4 GPA. I’m the son of immigrants and the first in my family to attend college, which allowed me to write purposeful statements that got me waitlisted at Berkeley, USC, and Michigan. Unfortunately I didn’t get in off the waitlist at any of these schools, but it inspired me to believe that with a better LSAT score, I could attend a top school.

I didn’t enroll at schools that had offered me admission and retook Nov. 2018, feeling hopeful about this next cycle. For a solid 3-4 months I went over the free logic game videos, multiple times, and took PTs, making sure to review after. My performance range was between 163-167, but only scored a 162 on test day: -4 in LG, -3 RC, and -16! in LR (when I was averaging -10 max).

I’m disappointed, but have applied to schools with this new score nonetheless. I told friends and family that last time was the last time I was taking the LSAT, but... March 2019. This test would allow me to potentially get off waitlists, get better scholarship money, finally get the score I’ve been chasing (even if that means delaying for another cycle), or finally realize that the low 160s are my limit.

So I’ve just signed up for the premium course and plan to upgrade in a few weeks when I have more money, as I want access to the harder questions. I’m going to do what I haven’t done, complete the CC and do all the drills. Time to find out if this will be a story of perseverance or arrogance.

Hey everyone, I was wondering what my chances at the T-14 are? I also don't mind going to a tier 2 school on scholarship. Also would shooting for a school ranked from 20-30 be more beneficial than attending a regional school where I know I want to work. I see people putting so much emphasis on schools in the T25 or T30, but I don't mind going to a school ranked in the 50's that's in the state I want to work. I want to stay in the NY/NJ/(maybe PA) area. Outside of the T-14 there aren't many decently ranked schools in this area. Any suggestions on schools I should be applying too? I also want to apply to schools that will give me nearly a full ride.

There are a few discussions from just over a year ago about the practical aspects of how to record timed PT's (selfie sticks, uploading and file sizes).

I have that part down. I am curious to know what others do with the data afterwards. I can now see what questions are taking more time and I will drill the worst offenders. I think that knowing that I'll be watching myself makes me more aware of my time management, which is valuable in and of itself.

I just want to know if there is another step that I am unaware of.

I appreciate the input, as always.

Hi All,

Does anyone have experience crafting a 350 word statement about contributing diversity to a law school? Berkeley's prompt is: How will you (your perspective, experience, Voice) contribute diversity in our classrooms and  community? Any advice would be highly appreciated. I'm struggling with this one. Please note that I have already spoken at length about my minority/first-gen/immigrant background in my personal statement.

I took a test untimed and scored 153 , is that a bad score for untimed?

Hi everyone,

Just like the title says, I’m on the fence about a retake. I took September and got a 169 and then got a 172 in November. My PT average over the last five PTs was 171 with a high score of 175. My gpa is 3.9. I’m not planning on applying til next cycle. Is it worth the time and stress to try to bump myself up the one point to Harvard and Yale’s medians?

Ok I finally looked after 3days (I know, I’m a little crazy). 163.

So. My PT average is 167 with a pretty tight standard deviation of +/-2. I took the Sept. and got 158 and was very rattled, I’d never scored there (that whole test is a blurry, blacked out memory) except for my diagnostic back in June. Then Nov felt much better and more like my practice tests. I wasn’t particularly nervous — ya know, just regular “this is important, stay calm” kind of thoughts.

I didn’t think “test day fatigue” would figure so prominently in my scoring, but I guess it does.

Would you guys retake in Jan? I really don’t want to apply next year. I’m 28, 6 years out of school (working in criminal justice reform) and desperately want to dive into law school.

I have been hearing about people talking about having tutors for studying, some from 7sage. How exactly does that work?