Hi y'all, I am planning on signing up for the July test, does anyone know how it looks like testing in the International Trade Center.
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So I am in serious need of advice from others on here because I don't really know any people who have my issue/are serious about the LSAT. I would greatly appreciate any and all of your advice regarding how I should proceed.
I finished undergrad back in 2017 (a full year early) and decided to take some time off to work, travel and eventually take the LSAT.
I have been studying since the beginning of 2018 and originally decided that I was going to take the June 2018 test. Unfortunately, I didn't feel prepared for it and decided to push it back to August, paying the test change fee. I took it kind of easy and wasn't intense with my studying and timing, so come August I decided to cancel my sitting for the exam the week before the test and registered for the November exam. (Again) Right as the test date change deadline for the November exam came around, I decided to once again change the test date to January. Foolishly, I decided to take a week long hiatus from studying and after doing this it ultimately ruined my study schedule/habits for a few weeks until after the holidays. As the dreaded test date change deadline came once again, I changed my test date AGAIN to take the March exam. $565 later, it is now the week before the exam and I am anxious and having serious doubts about whether I should sit for this exam or push it back to the June exam.
Let me explain some background info so you can have a better idea of where I'm at right now:
I started to get serious about my studying after my January test date change and was committed to having this be my final change. I started to focus more on my understanding of LR fundamentals and how I was thinking about them. Around mid February was when I finally started to consistently hit the low-mid 170s in my untimed Blind Reviews of my PTs. I was only doing them untimed and didn't really start practicing with timed PTs until 3ish weeks before the exam. Unfortunately, my timed scores are stuck in the high 150s - low 160s, while my Blind Review scores are consistently in the low - mid 170s.
Throughout the course of my study using PTs (May 2018 - present), I have completed them all except PTs 73-86. My scores were always around low-mid 150s Timed and low-mid (no higher than 166) 160s BR until last month where I finally started to improve and was consistently scoring in the low - mid 170s Blind Review.When I started doing PTs timed after improving my Blind Review score I was scoring in the high 150s - low 160s timed and Here's how the Timed to Blind Review improvements usually look like for each section: RC= from - 6 or 7 to -4 or less ; LR (per section) = -5 to 7 to -2 or less ; LG -7 or less (usually because I don't get to finish all 4 games when I do them timed) to -0.
My indecisiveness kicked back in because I took PT 72 a few days ago (03/23) and started to worry more because I scored 158 Timed, 168 BR, which has been my first sub 170 BR score and lowest Timed/Blind review score in a month. I was planning to do 2-3 PTs every day until Friday before the test to finish the PTs I have yet to complete however I fear that I may be burning out already and that this may not be a good idea.
With my GPA, resume and the right LSAT score (170+), I think I have a decent shot at a T14 school which has ultimately been my goal since the start.
I know when you are applying to T14 schools that you really should only take the test once, so I am concerned that if I don't get the score that I want that retaking it would ultimately hurt my application. I'm also not sure if I would want to take it and have to cancel my score because it would still show up as 'score canceled' on my application.
On top of all that my sleeping schedule (my fault admittedly) is messed up and I don't seem very keen on taking the exam at 8:30AM.
June would be my last chance to take the exam because I don't like digital exams and especially don't want to risk being a guinea pig for the July 2019 exam. Also, the test is at 12:30PM and will be disclosed. However, the test center I wanted to take it at is full and I would have to travel further to take it, however that's not that big of a deal.
Each time I tell my family I have a test date and then tell them I pushed it back, they keep getting more and more skeptical of whether I can even achieve the score I want, which doesn't help either because I feel like I keep disappointing them by saying one thing and not fulfilling it, even though I won't be applying to law school for at least a year (fall 2020 or 2021).
Ultimately here's the question(s) I have:
-Would it look bad on my application to a T14 School (Especially T6s: YSH/CCN) if I took the March exam and canceled the score?
-What can I do to bridge the gap between my Blind Review and Timed scores?
-Is there really anything I can do to bridge that gap in the next 4 days?
-If I shouldn't take the March exam, how can I improve my studying so I am more efficient in bridging that gap? I have ~14 PTs which I haven't touched (73-86).
-How long before the exam should I be consistently scoring Timed to have a good idea of how I would perform under test conditions?
-How can I explain to my family once again if I change the test date that this will actually be the final test even though that is what I've been saying since November?
If you took the time to read all of this and give me your thoughts/advice/support I greatly appreciate it!
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Also, please excuse me if I repeat any words, phrases or if the grammar isn't perfect as it's pretty late and I just needed to get this off my chest ASAP.
So I canceled my test sitting for tomorrow's exam and need to register for the June Exam: however, my nearest testing location is listed as an "Area Test Center", which essentially means that they haven't selected the test center location yet (According to LSAC). They said they will inform you of where it will be when they decide upon a location, however I find it helpful to know where you the exam will be before I sign up for it.
On top of that, my first choice testing center filled up already, even though it was available a few days ago(still kicking myself over not registering then).
I have been reading proctor and test center horror stories, and I am worried that it will end up being a crap-shoot if I go with this location, since the only test center in that area which has had exams in the past has had consistently negative reviews(Granted I couldn't find any recent reviews, but still worrisome nonetheless). I would assume that they would hold it there or possibly at a hotel (which I honestly wouldn't mind as much).
On the other hand, there are spaces available at test centers that have good reviews, but they are 3-4+ hour drives.
The longer I wait the slimmer the pickings will be.
What should I do?
Has anyone ever had any experience registering to take an exam at a "Area Test Center" without knowing exactly where it was going to be when signing up/ what the end result was?
Thank You for your input!
Hey Guys, I live in NY, I have been on and off on 7th for more than 2 years now. I almost paid for the testmaster course this week, when it hit me, it would probably be better to spend that money on a 7sage tutor. Are there any available in the NY area? can anyone send me the list of tutors?
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Hi everyone, I just wanted to share a brief synopsis of my studying so far, in case anyone is even slightly unsure about the 7sage method. I still have a long way to go in my studying, but I wanted to make this post to express at the very least my preliminary gratitude for 7sage. I have been studying for the LSAT very hard for a little over a year, and I have a little over a year to go. I plan to sit for LSAT in summer of 2020. My diagnostic score was a 147, so I knew that it would be a very long journey with this test. After going through the CC religiously, doing every single practice set available, watching every single one of J.Y.'s explanations (even to questions that I answered correctly and felt confident on) and fool proofing the first LG 1-35 until I was having dreams about them (that is not an exaggeration lol), I finally began taking full length practice tests. My first few tests were in the 160s, but today I scored into the 170s for the first time on a timed practice test.
To be entirely honest, a 26 point increase in my score wasn't something I was sure I would ever see. This is proof that the 7sage method works, fool proofing and blind reviewing with enough dedication can yield incredible progress. I will keep studying with the same intensity that I have been, but it was a massive confidence boost to finally see that number tip past 170.
Thank you 7sage!
This is my fourth time studying for this test and every time I have studied, I have gotten a massive headache. It's usually when I am trying to wrap my brain around the LR questions. I don't fully understand the question at first and I am studying with Powerscore Logical Reasoning Bible, which is a Godsend. I fell for the shell answers (the answers that are intended to trick you into choosing it by mistake because they are arranged in a way that is attractive, but wrong {I see why I am still single :( }) and immediately got a headache.
Guess it was the anxiety that came after having my weakness exposed lol.
Anyone else get headaches, though? Either from studying for long periods of time or even during the switch between topics?
7Sage helped me a ton, so I thought I would try to give a little something back if there is interest.
I went from a 149 diagnostic to 169 actual score, T1 law school, graduated with honors, 1st year corporate & securities associate at non-NYC big law firm.
If there's interest feel free to ask me anything about LSAT, law school, OCI, or practice and I will be happy to answer.
... Before I spend time gathering a bunch of MBT questions and making them one LR section for practice, does anyone have any idea where I can find something like this? I am looking for 25-27 MBT questions all together as one practice section.
Thanks in advance!
I am from India and don't know anything willing to give this exam , can anyone help me out ??
During blind review of a prep test, and clicking on the "explanation" link beside a question (in the question performance list), the link will bring me back to the first page where you input all of the answers on a prep test, rather than to the explanation video. This is a problem that started recently.
If I right click and open in a new tab, it will bring me to the video. If I click on it directly, it will take me back to the input sheet.
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I could write a novel about my LSAT journey, but I’ll do my best to keep it concise. I’ve taken this test 4 times over the span of over a year. A continuation of my last post,
https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/18534/how-to-overcome-lsat-panic-anxiety
I was diagnosed by both my GP and specialist with severe anxiety and panic attacks that become prevalent especially during the LSAT administration. I followed their instructions, took beta-blockers and perhaps most importantly changed my mindset about the exam. I think a main contributor to my anxiety was the fear of disappointing my family and even worse not getting accepted to law school. My November 2018 take (3rd go), was a 154 and although almost 20 points below by PT’s was enough to get me into law school. This mindset for my January 2019 take (4th go) was to tell myself no matter how I did today, I could go to law school. The good news was I had near ZERO anxiety for the administration and it felt so liberating. It truly felt like it was the first real take of mine. The bad news was that the room I was placed in my unbearably hot. It was so hot that the proctors opted to take turns stepping out because it was just that bad. Worse for me I wore just a sweatshirt (because winter) and I had to sit in that swamp for 2 sections until they could find us another room. I ended up scoring a 164 which is a fantastic score but I was still upset by the fact that I’m sure most of my points were lost in the first two sections and if it wasn’t for that, I would be near close to my PT score.
So I took what I got and applied to several target schools along with the few now safety schools I had applied to in November.
Now sitting here with what looks to be a disappointing cycle, I’m unsure where to turn. Before dealing with this LSAT roller-coaster, I always wanted to go to Harvard. Unfortunately, that was just not going to happen so I sent an application to BC and got waitlisted. My best offer is currently from Temple with a 2/3rd scholarship with in-state tuition. Temple is a great law school however I personally did not see myself going there. In a perfect world I would want to move and practice up north but I don’t think Temple could make that a possibility.
Anyways since I’ve been on this journey for so long my family keeps asking me when I’m going to law school. My whole family expected me to take it once in December of 2017, apply for the upcoming cycle, and enter law school in the fall of 2018. Even with score of 141 on that December take, my grandparents insisted I go to anyone that accepted me and they would cover the cost. My family keeps saying “it’s not where you go as long as you pass the bar in the end”. It’s just hard to break their mindset that a lot of schools even with decent bar pass rates still have mediocre employment outcomes for their students. This of course is only one variable to consider when making a huge decision like law school but my family is all of the mindset of “just go so you can get a law job asap”. Since of taken that LSAT 4 times already, they keep telling me I’m wasting my life away and they are questioning if I even want to go to law school. The worst part is that my grandparents are willing to pay my entire law school bill no matter where it is. While I’m thankful I have that option open to me, I would only be comfortable taking that for a school like Harvard. With what I know I can do, I can get into some great schools with some good money and I don’t need anyone to pay for what they don’t need to. When I first brought up the subject of delaying yet another cycle, everyone was furious with me. Even though they have somewhat lightened up to the fact law school might not happen for me this year, they still are heavily persuading me to go this cycle.
So I believe I’m left with 3 options.
Accepting Temples 2/3rd scholarship offer and entering law school Fall 2019
Delaying law school until Fall 2020 and applying with the score I have now. Based on lawschoolnumbers and the like, I will have a much more favorable outcome scholarship and acceptance wise to the schools I’ve applied to this February.
Retaking the LSAT once more in June and aim for that 170+ score I know I can get and shoot for T-14 (Harvard) and a secure BC offer for Fall 2020
I left out a lot of the drama but I can't stress enough how much my family just want me to go this cycle.
Hello everyone,
I know that this type of posts are rather cliche, as most people likely have experienced similar episodes during their LSAT prep processes. Normally, I would just keep to myself and try to adjust my prep methods, but with the actual test date creeping up, and little to no progress, I desperately need some guidance/suggestions on studying before my time runs out. The other factors of my student profile is rather strong compared to the LSAT, and improving my score is currently the priority.
Currently, I am aiming for a 165+ on the June 2019 test, I have started studying for the LSAT about 10 months ago without doing a diagnostic test, self-studied using a Kaplan book. But it wasn't consistent, as I have classes, and a job during the semester. The first PT I did after finishing the material, I got a 160, non-strictly timed and included more, longer rest periods than the actual testing conditions.
For the past few weeks, I have been doing 3 full length LSAT PT's every week, and the scores ranged from 157-163. Also, I just started doing Blind Review last week, and there is probably little to no improvements, just yet. I will continue to do BR from now and on, but I would like to look at other factors that I could improve on, making sure that I am approaching my problems with the correct methods. Keeping track of the records, my scores still average out around 160. The typical PT for me would be -5 to -7 on each LR, -3( on LG, and -6 to -8 on RC. LG is by far my strongest section, I usually fall victim to misreading the question or trying to speed through the section under time pressure; On LR sections, I usually find that I will do much worse on one than the other, and they generally balance each other out. (Flaw, Strengthen/Weaken questions are usually the problems); RC is often the nightmare for me, and the one that I run out of time on relatively frequent. English is my not my native language (L3, in fact), and I struggle to catch all the important elements in the passage clearly, especially the ones that have a lot of viewpoints and filled with technical terms (Scientific Passages). The hardest type of questions in this section would be Inference, and Author's attitude towards x (A lot of the times, I don't understand all the words listed, and forced to guess between two)(/p)
Ideally, I would keep to the current testing date for a few reasons: 1. I already paid for the admission ticket; 2. The new digital LSAT is rolling out in July, and fully implemented by September. Personally, I find that I would lose attention faster on a digital platform than regular paper tests (I tried the free Khan prep course for a bit, and I regularly lose focus while doing the questions). Thus, I would try to avoid taking the digital one as much as possible. 3. I am finishing my undergrad this year, and I can't afford to take a gap year, so catching the upcoming admission cycle would be important.
With little over 2 months left, I am already spending all the time I could to study, but I don't think I am using my resources effectively, and keep taking PT at this rate probably won't give me the improvements that I am hoping for. I would like to change up my schedules, but not really sure where to start at this point... If anyone can provide me with suggestions, it would be much appreciated! Thanks for your time in advance!
I don't know where to turn to and am really struggling with this test. I started studying with a different prep company and started using 7sage a few months ago. I've written the lsat twice (sept 2018 - 146 & Jan 2019 - 147). I was planning on taking it next week (March 30th) in hopes of possibly getting a good score for Osgoode's cycle (but I'm feeling so defeated with anxiety and not being able to get through a single passage currently). I didn't think I would do bad the first two attempts, and getting all the rejection letters is deflating my confidence in this journey thinking its not for me. My pt's have been ranging between high 150s to low 160s now but I feel the anxiety and feel like the same thing will happen as last time and I will score in the 140s again.
if anyone has felt this way - can you please offer some assistance/what you did to overcome this the week of the test. I feel like my self-worth is low because I can't pass this test and I don't think I'm smart enough to attend law school at this rate.
Hi, I haven't been on in a while as my account has expired, so I hope you all don't mind giving me some free advice.
I just found out last night that I got in to my dream school and I am thrilled. ( it was the only one I applied to so I'm also relieved lol) The issue is though that I didn't receive the kind of scholarship award that I would have liked, given that I have to now quit my full time job to go to school my husband is also nervous about how this is going to work.
I have a very good gpa but only a very modest lsat score, so I am lucky they accepted me at all and that they offered some financial award. But I need it to be more.
Is it too late to do anything about this and if not what would I do/say? I don't want them to think that I don't appreciate their admission etc. I want to be super respectful, but I need to see about this or I'm worried that I might not be able to go at all.
What about if I ask if I can re-take the lsat in June or July and ask if my new improved score would merit a new offer? Is that something that is done? or is this written in stone?
Please advise. I appreciate you all so much. You guys were there for me and wouldn't let me quit when I got a less than stellar result before so I thank you all.
-Ana
We had another great BR session on Saturday and finished the parts of the Nov. test (PT 86) that we were unable to go over in JY's group sessions. Next we're taking PT 50 and meeting to BR it on Sat., Feb. 2. I've been hosting in the fancypants lounge area of my building in Long Island City, Queens. We've had about 4 people each time, and I make snacks. Please message me if you're interested.
So i am halfway through the CC (im on flaw descriptive) my main concern is while im going through the CC, will i be able to remember the other question types (strategies on how to tackle them) do you guys have any tips not to forget everything i learned until now?
Hello Everyone,
I am registered to take LSAT next Saturday. I am currently scoring between 155 and 159. I completed about 50% of tests and noticed that my score started significantly improving in the last few weeks. I definitely want to take June or even July LSAT. I am planning to start submitting law school applications starting August 2019 (2020 admission). Is there a chance any law school may not accept LSAT score from June or July?
Also, what is more common for law schools to do: take higher, later or average score when applicant took two tests?
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Hello Everyone, please, can someone give me some advice. I have been studying on and off for the past nine months, and I am still having a great degree of difficulty with timing. My accuracy for each section is about 70% under real time, but I am only finish 3/4 logic games for every test I take, and 3/4 passages under real time for the RC section. As for the Logical Reasoning sections, I consistently finish somewhere from 17-19 questions. and end up getting 4/17, making me miss a whopping 11 questions per logical reasoning section. In the nine months that I have studied I typically just do drills, and as a result I have only taken like 3 diagnostic exams, because each time I see my score, become very depressed, so I just do drills and forget about taking a whole exam. Now, because I am struggling with reading and logic games especially, I am taking the rest of this month to do the RC and LG sections for preptest 40-49, and to study a few parts of the core curriculum. And then I will start doing full length practice exams again. My diagnostic score is a 148 without any guessing on questions. The whole time I've been studying for this exam, I have questioned whether I will ever reach my target score of the mid 160s. My mother is a nurse and worked 12 hour shifts 5-6 nights a week to put me through undergrad, and wanted to go to Law school, but she couldn't because she had me at an untimely point in her life! I want to go to a T20 so bad!!
In 2.5 months, I will be leaving for China to serve in the Peace Corps to teach english at a university in Southern, China. I am pretty positive that after my first 3 months of being there and settling in, I will have a few hours each day to study after classes and what not. People in my life are telling me to just take the exam in June, but I don't want to score too low. Also, there are test centers in China, but if I am correct, I would not be able to see what I missed after the scores come in.
I would be so eternally grateful for any advice anyone has for me regarding when to take the exam, or the RC section. I think that I can improve my LR and LG sections with more practice, but I am completely defeated when it comes to RC, just did a practice section now, and scored -11 out of 26...
My son wants to work in Michigan after law school in government job of some kind. Did not get into u of m, not retaking LSAT. Should he go to lower ranked school in Michigan or higher ranked out of state? If he goes to osu or indiana will he be able to get a job in government in Michigan?
MSU- full tuition plus leadership group (guaranteed internships, externships, mentor, networking)
WAYNE- full tuition
OSU- full tuition if gets residency 2L and 3L
Indiana- 2/3 scholarship
Hi, I'm new here. There have been many changes in the Lsat including that now it will be in a digital format starting July. What are the pros and cons of digital, does the tablet (where you will be taking exam) have a time clock on it, and will studying 7sage help us do well in this new digital format?
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