Hey all! Currently my blind review scores have been much higher than my actual scores, but I'm not really sure how to improve them to fully reach my potential. For example, on my last PT I got 169, but my blind review was 176. Is it just an issue of improving on timing? If so, how can I do this? Thanks!

I know this is just a snapshot but you all have been so helpful in the past. I started studying in March after a 156 diagnostic. After the CC my PT scores have been: 160, 162, 166, 164, 164, 165. LR is always my worst section with around 10-12 incorrect, spread across question type. RC is best, and LG varies but usually -3 to -5.

Can I hit 168 or even 170 for June 11 (1 month from now)? I work full time and usually do 1 timed section/night, focusing on LR and one PT on the weekend.

Any tips or feedback? Thaank you!

Apparently, LSAC just instituted fee increases and they are bananas. LSAT is now $190, test center and date change fees are $125, CAS registration is $195 and the doozy - CAS reports are now $45 (up from $35).

https://www.lsac.org/jd/applying-to-law-school/lsat-cas-fees?view=1

Hello Everyone,

I realize when I read that my mind is on everything else but what I'm reading. I would read the RC passage and then noticed that I picked up on bits and pieces. How do you all combat that?

I am BRing 172-174 (my target score), but on my timed PTs, I am scoring between 159-163. There's about a month left till the June LSAT. I have registered for it, but re-considering if I should take it yet, or wait till September.

The thing stopping me from taking it in September is I have kids who will be home during the summer break, which means I will barely get quiet time to study for the next couple of months. And, I will start working in August too. However, for the next month I have no work, and kids in school, meaning about 5-6 hours of study time everyday till June 11.

I guess, my question boils down to, how long does it usually take for people to get from their actual score to their BR score? What are some strategies (feel free to suggest webinars or discussion links) that I can use to increase accuracy in timed condition?

Hi! I finished the core curriculum about 2 weeks ago and have taken 2 PT's since (36 and 37). For 36, I took it after a full day of work at the end of the week (which was dumb, but I had a busy weekend and wanted to get the test over with!) and could feel myself taking longer to think and not having enough time for some sections. As a result I wasn't super bummed to get a score only a few points higher than my diagnostic back in Feb. However, with 37, I took it early in the morning before work and felt pretty good about it, only to find that I got a point lower than I did on 36. I know two PTs isn't much data to work with, but I'm feeling pretty discouraged and was wondering if anyone else did worse/the same before they got better. I have no idea how many PTs it takes before you see consistent improvement and would love to hear from others. FWIW I'm not taking the test until September so I have some time, but was still really hoping to see noticeable improvement after finishing the curriculum and taking my first few PTs with all that new knowledge.

Should I pause on taking more PTs and go back to the curriculum to review more? Or keep plugging along on PTs and Blind Review?

Edit--thank you all for the in-depth comments and pointers, I feel much better about where I'm at!

Has anyone done the core curriculum with 7sage among side a study schedule through LSAT trainer?

Or is it counterproductive?

Been using the powerscore bibles and it feels to stiff to me and I’m not retaining a lot. However 7sage is working better with LR.

If anyone has done both 7sage and LSAT trainer any advice would be much appreciated.

Holy holy holy crap

Harvard just invited me to interview off the waitlist.

What do I do

What does this mean?!

I set the goal of 4 hours of content a day, which in reality takes 6+ hours to get through and truly internalize. How much is everyone else doing?

I saw this recent post where folks were posting photos of their study spots.

It makes me happy to see that studying, or at least the concept of it as embodied in the "study station," can make people happy - even if only in that fleeting sense of happiness you feel before embarking on a difficult yet rewarding studying session. I must say as badly as I want to get into a great law school, I have a hard time looking at my studying positively, even though I know it is helping me and I know it is like medicine for low scores (sometimes we hate to take medicine, but it helps us, and that knowledge makes it easier to take). Which, in my opinion, brings to mind a deeper question. Should we be happy while studying? Or should we accept that happiness in studying is simply a luxury we cannot all have?

If so - if at least a fleeting bit of happiness once in a while is a necessary pre-requisite for one's studying being "healthy" and "good," etc, - does my inability to find happiness in my studying, despite being someone who likes intellectual challenges, despite wanting very badly to go to law school, indicate that maybe I am not meant to be doing what I am doing?

Does anyone ever have these thoughts?

I was wondering if every feels exhaustive a month or so into the studying process?

I feel as if as I learn more it gets more confusing and sometimes i miss the basic things.

Is this normal and will things settle into place as the studying goes on?

Or should I be constantly drilling concepts.

Hey Everyone!

I just walked over to my study desk and had one of those moments where looking at it made me feel so happy. I just couldn't resist sharing a pic and seeing what you all think!

I love how the herbs smell in the morning (especially the mint) and the aloe vera plant just gives me these healthy vibes.

I would love to know how you all have your study desk set up.

Here it is! : )

I am a little confused about questions in which a scientist/critic/psychologist/whatever will state their opinion on something, often giving context and then their own argument. Then the question stem will ask "The scientist's argument proceeds by..."

A good example of this is Question 20 from PT 68 section 3. I missed this question in timed conditions and in BR, seemingly because I just misunderstood what it was asking me to look for. I took "proceeds by" to mean what comes before the actual argument, so the context, and I selected answer choice E, even though JY just breezes past this one in the explanation video. Now I see that my brain tricked me into thinking the question was actually "precedes by" rather than "proceeds by."

I am certain I have come across similarly worded questions before, though I don't think they are super common. When I do encounter these questions, are they just asking me about the structure of the argument ?

Does anyone have any solid examples of an excel sheet they put together to help track their progress other than the analytics feature that comes with our package? I can shoot someone my email if need be..

Hey, all! So I have sort of a weird question.

Right now I'm in my last semester of university and I'm currently working two jobs while going to class full time. While I love my jobs, there are a lot of downtime in between them where I'm stuck with nothing to do. Since I can't exactly have my laptop with me or any real studying sources (it will look like I'm not working), is there some way to still "practice" the LSAT somehow? Thank you, all!

Hi all:

So I'm currently experience a bit of a loss of a sense of direction, post (completing) the core curriculum. I finished about a month ago and immediately began fullproofing afterwards. I definitely think it's helped a lot, especially with getting me more comfortable with LG (my weakest section). I took a break from FP a week ago in order to dodge burnout, and began reviewing LR lessons from CC in preparation for PT'ing. I'm planning to officially kickoff PT'ing this weekend. In your experience, would you say where I'm headed is a good idea, or, would you recommend I do otherwise---if so, please share. (*Note: I haven't taken any PT since completing the CC and FPing for ~ a month)

Thanks in advance!

Fellow 7Sagers,

I’m in a rut and would appreciate any advice/input on how to best go about studying for the LSAT as well as deal with other issues (see below).

Plan of attack

I thought that if I started studying for the June LSAT in February I would be fine . . . until I actually started studying for the LSAT. My original plan was to start with the Trainer in February, take a face to face course that would lead up to the exam, take the exam, score in the high 160’s and be on my way to the school of my dreams . . . I clearly didn’t know what I was doing or thinking.

I’ve since adjusted my plan of attack to something more realistic. Currently, I am holding off on finishing the 7Sage CC since I started the in-person course, but plan on revisiting and finishing after I take the exam in June. I was hoping to start doing PT’s with the September group, but think that I should join the December or February group instead. Thoughts?

Diagnostic test

I started studying with the LSAT Trainer a few months ago, took a diagnostic test under non-test day conditions (in a coffee shop w/ distractions) and finished each section within the allotted time. I did poorly, but I finished. I stopped using the trainer and switched to 7Sage a few days later and started the CC. All was great, but I stopped at weakening arguments and decided to take a break since the in-person prep course I signed up for was two weeks away. I started the course this past Saturday, took another diagnostic under test day conditions, and did horrible! Although some of the sections were easier to understand because I covered them in the CC, I did not finish all the sections in time, did not guess on questions I wasn’t able to get to, and found myself overanalyzing everything. J.Y. said something early in the course that really stuck with me and it is that honesty is the best policy if you want to perform well on this test. I figured that it was in my best interest to save the guessing for test day, review only what I did answer, and learn what I don’t know. Is that the right approach?

Bad days

Who do you vent to after a bad PT or study session, excluding 7Sagers, and how do you get back on track mentally? Is there an LSAT emotional support group that I should know about?! Lol

Thank you all in advance for your willingness to help.

Best,

K

Hi everyone! I'm going to give some background about myself first for context before asking my question. I started "studying" for the LSAT during the summer of 2016. I took the diagnostic test that comes with this course (June 2007) and scored a 154. I was working full-time and heading into my final year of school, so I already had a lot on my plate and I didn't properly set time aside to study. I originally wanted to write in the fall of 2016, but I pushed it twice (December 2016 and then February 2017). Eventually, I wrote in February 2017 (having done virtually 0 studying) because I had submit any score for my law school applications, and (unsurprisingly) I scored 154 again. Fast forward to today, I didn't get accepted anywhere (duh) and I'm trying to study again to re-apply in the fall of 2018.

I took the same diagnostic test again, scored 152, and my section breakdown (same order as the test) is as follows:

My best section by far is LG, with my worst section being RC. My question is: how much can I expect to improve my score by the September 2018 test date? I'll have about another 1.5 to 2 months of full-time studying to get through the core curriculum, and after that I'll be working full-time again until September so my study time will be cut (but hopefully I can do at least 1 PT a week on top of reviewing the curriculum).

I am hoping to get to at least 165 to offset a less-than-competitive average from undergrad, and if I could get to 170 that would be a dream. Am I aiming too high? Or should I be approaching this differently? Any advice or past experiences would be greatly appreciated!

I applied this year but did not get the results/LSAT score I was hoping for. I was thinking about quitting my job so I can full focus on the LSAT. I currently work at a consulting firm focused on litigation and the hours and the amount of networking/office politics is exhausting.

My question is, if I quit, would that look terrible on my resume when I reapply? I was here for two years, and was at a finance firm for a year before that. What do yall think? Am I overthinking?

I finished the June 2007 test like two days ago, and now I'm in the process of doing BR.

It's just... BR takes so long. I'm doing every question, and it's taking me literally forever. More so because I don't want to do it:/

I just finished BR section 2, which took me like two hours. Wanted to finish the whole thing before grading, but I could feel myself slowly dying so I just graded section 2.

Now, I know BR is really really really important, but I feel like doing cc would be time better spent.

aaaaaarrrrggggghhhhhhhhh.... PT was fun tho...JY's grammar thingy was fun too...

Just want to give @studentservice a big thank you for solving my printing and computer issues that I've had for the past 5 days or so!!! I have never had such technical issues before and it was blowing my mind how I could not print anything! They figured it out and I'm back running!!!

If you ever have tech issues, @studentservice has got your back!!! Thank you!!!

Has anyone here ever come back to LSAT studying after a long break? I'm talking, several months. I'm definitely rusty and it's kind of freaking me out at the moment.

I took the December test (Dec 2), and then set everything aside. Took a PT once in January just to test the retention and I got the exact same score as I did on the December test, so I felt pretty good about retaining things. Then focused on applications, life, etc. Now that I made the decision to retake and reapply, I'm back to studying and planning on retaking in June (and maybe September) to try to boost my score a bit.

I took a PT cold a couple weeks ago to see where I'm at and scored a couple points lower. Not a huge deal, but I bombed games (-7 instead of my average -2ish). Did about my average on LR and surprisingly well on RC to balance the LG. My BR was terrible though. It was higher than the PT score, but a full 5 points lower than I BR'd any test since like middle of last year. I tried not to panic and have been working on foolproofing LG to try to shake off the dust. Attempted a full LG section last night though and bombed again even harder - didn't even get to the last 2 games. Now I'm really trying not to freak out.

So my assessment is: I've definitely lost my edge on LG. And while I've been scoring ok on LR, my BR of those sections hasn't been nearly as good. Not doing so hot at correcting my mistakes.

Has anyone been through this? Any advice? Any help keeping me from having a panic attack? haha.

Does anyone here know any good tricks/skills I should develop as a tactile learner for the LSAT? I know I need to take a lot of breaks, and honestly resetting often helps me focus on my objective, however, besides that and flash cards, which I still have to memorize, are there any other tricks you all recommend?

So I recently got approved for extra time on the LSAT, and I was wondering if anyone with 50% extra time is willing to private message me tips on how they endure to the end. I took a 5 section practice test 2 days ago and only made it half way through section 4 before my brain completely died on me. By that time 4 hours had passed, and I honestly couldn't take anymore. I think I got an ok score for a first attempt under the new time conditions, but I know I have at least another 8 points in me. Plus since I have to do the experimental section, I cant take the chance of not making it to section 5. Any advice would be appreciated!

After about 1.5 years of studying and working FT, I've managed to get average of -3/-4 in every section, consistently. (RC :-4, LR: -3/-4, LG: -4). Averaging around 166/167 and hoping to hit 170 by July. I fool proofed games from PT 15-35 and have taken PT36 - PT 83 at least once each. I don't really believe PT 15 and below hold much value, as the test has changed so drastically since 1995, but I may be mistaken. What is the best plan of attack for increasing my score by those last few points? Any advice and recommendations are greatly appreciated!