Hi Rick,

Today maybe the last time I hear your voice in the 7Sage proctor app, so just want to say thank you for scare the shit out of me every time you say "there are 5 minutes remain."

Because of Rick, I don't think I will be scared by any proctor(s) tomorrow.

Thank you Rick!

So I'm reading the lsat test day sheet and from what I've read, it doesn't look like bringing in coffee in a paper cup is allowed? Is this true? Not that coffee specifically is dis-allowed but it looks like we can only have beverages in plastic containers....SO technically a Starbucks cup wouldn't be a permissible?

Hey everyone,

Whether you are going into September LSAT or have heard about how difficult the newer tests are I want to actually say please do not worry. I know I did for a while but I want to share my experience with you and I hope that dispels a lot of the fears for the upcoming tests.

Throughout my preparation for LSAT I know I kept worrying that I hadn't ventured into taking the newer tests and as test day kept approaching my fears would increase that maybe I was missing out on something that the newer tests wold test me on and I would therefore end up scoring lower. My tutor was firm in making sure that I use all my old prep materials first and I got into the score range that I wanted to be in before giving me any of the newest test.

A month ago, my tutor had me take a test without knowing what PT it came out of. It's essentially a blind test and I did not feel the difference. It turned out it was a higher 70 series test and I ended up scoring in the same range that I usually do. Since then I have done a blind test on lower 70's and higher 70 PT series and I always end up scoring in my score range. This is true despite some PT's having weird games and I actually did not do well on some of those weird games. Despite that, I still managed to score in my average range.

I agree that the newer tests are different from 1-40 PT series. I also see that we now have comparative passages in RC and weird games in LG. But comparing the logic and even the language from 50-70 series I didn't see a difference. At least the difference wasn't enough to take me out of my average score range.

I really hope this helps people who fear the newer tests. If the tests were significantly different or harder then when I did the higher 70 series without knowing what PT number it was I should have still scored lower. But that did not happen. Obviously what I did is not a robust study and it did not involve a lot of participants. But its enough for me to know to not worry and my hope is that it helps other people not worry that the test on this coming Saturday will be significantly harder than what we have faced.

True some RC's or LG's are tougher but the curve compensates for that. When you do start scoring in your range that you want, I would say you are ready to take the LSAT real time whether you have taken many 70 series or not. So please don't freak out about the series in your prep or as you go into the test if you have not done a lot of newer test. Just do what you have been doing to score high and you will do just fine.

Good luck :).

Maybe a few of us will be testing together.

Comment your testing location

I'll be at Ohio State University

Where can you buy the cambridge difficult passages?

I have my admissions ticket printed and ready to go for this Saturday, when I realized my photo does not completely fill the 2x2 box. There is a white bar next to the photo. The photo is clear and you can tell it is me - do you think I will be allowed in or are they going to give me a difficult time/turn me away?

Hi guys,

So, I'm over here frustrated trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. I can't seem to get out of the mid 150's range -- and I have been here for quite some time. My BR has been going up (currently at 165). I drill often but I'm just not seeing results. I only see them when I BR.

I don't want to keep taking tests though I think I should because I am writing in December (and yes I know I should write only when I'm ready but I have made the decision to put this down after February -- been at it for too long).

I want to hit at least a 160 consistently before the December test but I just don't know what to do anymore. :(

Help!

Hi,

I'm scheduled to retake the LSAT on Saturday. I initially scored a 172 in February after 3 weeks of study interrupted by having my wisdom teeth yanked. Early in the summer I made the decision to retake and fool proofed the logic games(my weakest section) to the best of my ability. I was relatively happy with this decision and felt I had a good chance of squeezing a few more points out of the test until yesterday.

I woke up with a sore throat, spent the day sneezing and coughing, ran a mild fever, and vomitted during the night. I have previously largely found that practice testing in sub-optimal conditions tired, hungry, with distractions, on pain medication after my wisdom teeth were pulled has not significantly affected my results and I feel a little better this morning so my question is two fold.

First, should I take the test even if I am still sick the morning of?

Second, does anyone have any tips for managing a cold or the flu while taking the LSAT?

The ticket says "No later than 8:30am." Do people tend to arrive much earlier than then?

Hey everyone,

I was curious whether one should aim at clocking in answers within the 1:24 minute mark while learning the CC for the first time. I've been taking way more time than necessary on LR questions with a higher difficulty rating (approximately 5 minutes or so on each of those questions). I've read elsewhere that in the CC phase, one is typically fine doing those questions untimed. I'm worried that if I continue to do them untimed I might run into timing issues when I start taking PTs. That said, I do want to get a solid grasp of the logic of this test. Not sure which is the best way to go. Interested in knowing from you experienced test takers!

Good luck peeps.

Hi all,

Has the LSAC ever given an experimental section a sthe very first section before?

The LSAT is pretty explicit that you need to show up on test day looking like you do in your photo (including needing to wear your facial hair in the same way etc). The photo requirement has always confused me - not sure how it prevents people from taking the test for other people because they can still just submit the photo of the person showing up on test day? (let me know if I'm missing something).

also, feel free to DM in response

Anyways, anybody have any experience they're comfortable sharing or know anyone with experience re: presenting their gender differently than in their LSAT photo? Has anyone heard of anyone being denied entry into the LSAT because their gender presentation doesn't match their LSAT photo, or doesn't match their legal sex on their ID? And in general, not exclusive to gender presentation, how similarly do you have to present yourself (for example, can you have short hair in person if you have long hair in your photo)?

Also - solidarity to all the queers taking the LSAT in September. Would love to hear more about what you're planning on doing with your law degree - hope it's not evil :/

Sometimes I have to take a breath and remind myself of why all this studying, hours, tears and heartburn is worth it. For me, the drive comes from envisioning myself helping employers and their employees stay aligned with the proper Labor and employment laws (a passion of mine) and having a lucrative career that can take care of my family for generations. What is your motivation for studying? Why do you want to be a lawyer?

Hey guys, had a student email in asking how to best use the LSAT Trainer and 7Sage together. We don't have a guide on how to do that so I thought you guys could help out. Here's the email:

I just had a quick question. It might be a question that does not have an answer yet or it does have one. Before i signed up for the 7sage i read online and a lot of people stated the way your course is was similar and goes perfectly with the LSAT trainer book by Mike Kim. My main question is that do you have some sort of document or PDF that gives you the page number of the lesson a student would be currently on in the 7sage course to the LSAT trainer book? That way if a student like myself who cannot afford to pay for the ultimate package, can still have access to more questions via the LSAT trainer book. is there something of that sort? Just thought i would ask.

:O :O :O

rip

Hey Everyone,

So I took one last PT on Tuesday and just graded it. Did anyone else find the last passage on RC PT76 really difficult? I usually score in the low-mid 170's and I got the lowest score on a PT than I have in the last month or so. So I'm basically just trying not to freak out because RC is usually my strong suit. Ugh.

Thought it was strange that no one reached out to confirm my accommodations for Saturday like they usually do. So I reached out to the supervisor here in Louisville, and someone in her office notified me that I am scheduled to take the test next weekend (23rd) instead of this weekend, even though my ticket said the 16th.

This seemed strange, since when I took the test last December, there was not a separate date for accommodated testing. But after speaking with the administrator directly, I found out that they had to reschedule at the last minute because there were not enough proctors. Just a few minutes after we spoke, I received an email from LSAC containing the updated information.

From the LSAC Accommodations page: "Additionally, your test may be scheduled for an alternative, later date."

This is just a reminder to everyone with accommodations that you should confirm the details for your test with the administrator. There may be some last minute changes that you aren't aware of. They had apparently lost my contact info, which is one of the reasons I wasn't informed until this morning. But she also mentioned that this happened with another person, so I hope whomever that is gets the message as well.

I came across this really great podcast on "Thinking LSAT" with two LSAT teachers riffing about what to do in the days following up to taking the LSAT, and some last minute tips to remember as you go into the test. I found it really informative and fun (they tell some really funny stories of some of the weirdest things that have happened during an LSAT so you can prepare for anything :))

I also found it calming and reassuring to listen to, so thought I'd share it. It was recorded for the last June LSAT, but the advice applies across the board

http://www.thinkinglsat.com/blog/ep-97-last-minute-advice-for-the-june-2017-lsat/

Best of luck to you all

Hello,

I recently bought a watch from this website: http://lsatwatch.webs.com/. I am confused about the new rule applying to watches....can someone please tell me if this is allowed on test day? Thank you!

~Danielle

https://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/day-of-test

Does anyone know what LSAC means by medical products? Does a prescription with your name on it, for something like Adderall, count as a medical product? I wanted to bring it to take during the break to stay sharp during the test. How about contact lenses? I tend to rub my eyes a lot and my contacts sometimes fall out (and definitely will fall out on Saturday, because that's just the way things go).

Can we bring more than 1 watch on test day?

I am putting a new battery in my analog watch but just to be SUPER cautious... haha can we bring more than one? Does anyone know?

Great news!!! My LSAT relocation got approved, and I get to take the test tomorrow! Thank you everyone for your support and help. Sorry for the delay in response; I have only had power for three hours.

-AJ

Good evening everyone! I hope you are well.

So, me and other Floridians are trying to keep calm as best we can. A lot of us have no power, no water, no food that comes from the ground, huge ass trees knocked over in our front yards, houses in wee bits, etc.

And while most of us are probably just grateful to be alive, the fact of the matter is that most of our state centers are scheduled or are already closed throughout our area.

When I called the LSAC, they said you cannot get relocated within 100 miles of your original location, and almost all motions to be relocated are denied. They also said they will just keep us posted on updates.

So, yeah, as per what the LSAC has said via email and on the phone, we cannot take the test this Saturday.

And I am not trying to be a beeyatch, but:

*I have been studying for this test for almost a year, while teaching four fourteen hour days and one ten.

*I am no spring chicken; I am going to be 29 when I take the LSAT in December.

*I gave up a visiting professorship in Madrid, so I could take two LSATS [September and December] prior to January/February application deadlines.

*I have taken more PTs in the last few months than I would like to acknowledge.

*Have put so much damn money into this damn test.

Sorry, I don’t mean to bitch, and to be honest, people in my day to day do not grasp the commitment this has been, and I am just looking for advice.

-Has LSAT ever made a natural disaster exception and given a test again prior to the quarterly dates (February/June/September/December)?

-Has anyone ever been delayed, and if so what were the consequences? Personally or financially or what have you?

-I am so nervous that I now only have one shot at getting my aspired score prior to college applications being due. I know that this means I have more time to now prep for the December one, but still….

-Just pretty much any advice would be helpful. I know we cannot plan for things like this, but it is not zero power or water for the last five days that is driving me crazy, but this right here! This is the thing that is dragging me down. Thank you all in advanced so much!

Hey all,

Just wondering what yall's preferred distribution of the sections is on the LSAT!

Mine is definitely:

:)

My average score for my last 10 PTs (before this week) was a 165. My LR average for last 5 tests was -3. I was feelin good about my improvements and workin closer to a 170. However, I just took 2 PTs (75 & 77) this week, and got a 159 on both of them. For context, I haven't scored that low in about a year.

Totally at a loss and depressed and in total disbelief. I thought the first 159 was an anomaly & shrugged it off, but after the 2nd one... I now feel like I have no grasp on how test day will go on Saturday. This is really scary. I've been at this for over a year and a half but this score is not showing it (relative to myself & to how I scored in my early days of studying, of course--not saying at all that 159 is not a strong score or not a result of many months of studying).

In a word, I'm devastated. The only explanation I can come up with right now is that I've been pretty focused on LG over the last few weeks, and RC even in just this past week.. so maybe my mind isn't "in it" for LR ?? I say that because I went from getting 0-3 wrong per section, to -9, -6, -5, -7 in these most recent LR sections.

So, if that is the case -- any recommendations on what I should do (both mentally & studying methods) to get my head back into it ?? I've been drilling LR questions this morning but I'm still having the same problem &/or not feeling that confident in my answers choices. Any help would be appreciated, especially if something similar has happened to someone else.

Thanks.