Just completed the crash course workshop with the LSAT god JY. I can tell you this much, any second spent with the master(JY) makes you a better candidate for the LSAT. He explains everything so well and forces you to think. Though I wish the days could have been longer but I am so happy and blessed to have been a part of the session. Good job JY you are really great at what you do. For anyone who is new to 7sage or who is just scouting for the best study material look no further this is the material to use.

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Blasted my way into the 170s with a 175 timed on PT 70! I am so happy and enjoying a nice glass of wine. My last PT was a 168 so this is a big jump - I hope it's not an anomaly.

Hey everyone,

I started the CC in January, and I have only completed 23% (Ultimate+). I paid for the June test thinking I would be ready, but obviously that's not the case. I am guessing that I will start PT'ing by July 1st for sure, but that would leave 2 solid months of PT exams, which is like 8 total exams if I am lucky and doing a comprehensive overview.

I am thinking that December would be an ideal date for me, and I know that it will give me enough time to practice at the score I need. However, I am worried about leaving it to the last possible chance, what if something happens that day?? My top two law schools don't take the February test either, and I really do NOT want to extend another year in my undergrad (I am going on my fifth now).

I was thinking of just writing in September, and then I can still use December as a back-up (which, like I said, is probably the best option considering it gives me enough time to really go through the CC and to do enough PT exams).

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks!

The first video for PT 31, Sect 1, GM 2 does not match the printed sheet or the silent video provided.

Was wondering if there is a way to save the given PTs in the CC? I like to print double-sided and in certain ways for RC (such as printing double-sided but having the passage and questions both visible). Is there a way to save the PTs? If not, is there an option somewhere that I'm not seeing to do this?

thanks!

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Hi all,

Having trouble understanding when there is an embedded conditional (or, the LSAT wants us to view it as such) or a referential phrase that uses an "if", for example, within a simple conditional.

Here's a specific example: PT70.S1.Q23

"Columnist: Although most people favor the bill, it will not be passed for several years..."

All of the answers, except for answer choice D, have embedded conditionals (or what I think are embedded conditionals) in them. Here are the answer choices:

(A) "In a well-functioning democracy, any bill that would benefit most people will be passed into law within a few years if it does not violate anyone’s basic human rights."

(B) If a democracy is well functioning, then any bill that is opposed by influential people but favored by most other people will eventually pass into law.

(C) In a well-functioning democracy, a bill that is favored by most people will become law within a few years only if those who oppose it are not very influential.

(D) Any bill passed into law in a well-functioning democracy will be favored by most people and be consistent with individuals’ basic human rights. (NO EMBEDDED CONDITIONAL HERE)

(E) A bill that most people favor will be passed promptly into law in a well-functioning democracy if the bill does not violate anyone’s basic human rights.

So 2 questions:

(1) I would appreciate a detailed rundown of the answer choices; specifically, how do you read them (i.e., as embedded conditionals? As a simple conditional with a referential phrase)? And also why/why not they are correct,

(2) More generally, how do you know when something is an embedded conditional or just a simple conditional with a referential phrase inside of it?

Hi all,

So, I've probably made every stupid LG mistake in the book at this point. Writing down rules wrong, making an incorrect inference that carries through into all the questions, reading a rule wrong, question stem wrong... list goes on and on. Obviously, I'm well aware that even a small mistake in LG that carries through in a game can wreck your entire LSAT score.

I previously posted to ask about mitigating the impact of making a mistake when it occurs. My question is, how do you avoid these mistakes in the first place? Specific strategies welcome (and yes, I do double check all my rules after writing them down!)

I was on a different forum when I had a question about meditation. I recently downloaded "Headspace" on my iPhone and it's been great. What it does is it gradually guides you, in increments, in the realms of meditation. I've felt a lot more optimistic and less anxious, and generally more apt at adjusting to my LSAT/life-induced stress since I've started meditating.

When I first read about it in the CC, I was really skeptical of its effects. The term 'meditation' seemed intimidating and kinda hardcore. But this app makes the experience a lot more intuitive, simple and enjoyable. 10/10 recommendation.

TLDR: get "Headspace" on your phone

Hello,

I'm preparing for the LSAT and I have the book that has the 10 official lsat preptests 62 to 71. But in the answer key that is included is not written in-depth and just gives the answer without explanation. Does anyone know where I can find an in-depth version of of just the answer key itself?

http://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/yale-law-school-to-accept-gre-scores?utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=49722236&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_h30l7HzTfjMRIqBql-R8gmL13Wtej5xomWZnMhM9dUnviB3bAZm9Z36ZnQMRnDFXK_eexTjP8xTELOZH6Q-mQQDTowA&_hsmi=49722236

Hey all!

First, I'd like to thank 7sage for everything it's offered! It's been so invaluable to me. I got into a lot of schools with scholarships I can be pretty happy with.

There's only one thing; I was wait listed at my dream school (Cornell) and I'd really like to make that happen. I've been thinking about taking the June LSAT since I heard the idea, especially since I took the February one and panicked under pressure and ended up with a lot lower of a score than I had been scoring on PTs.

But how does taking the June LSAT work for wait lists? Do you have to let the school know you're going to take the LSAT and notify them when the score comes in? Should you ask the school if they'd even review a June LSAT first? And my biggest worry--if a school somehow sees on your application that you're going to take a June LSAT, do you think they'd deliberately postpone letting you off the waitlist if they might have done it sooner? I'd hate to unnecessarily prolong this process.

Anyway, regardless of what happens with Cornell, I'll be really happy to be attending Emory in the fall with a BIG scholarship that I'm pretty excited about!

Thanks so much for all your help!

In case anyone needs a brief study break: The plaintiffs' reply to Buzzfeed's Motion to Dismiss a libel case is hilarious.

http://www.businessinsider.com/buzzfeed-dossier-lawsuit-aleksej-gubarev-2017-3

Study break/procrastination material!

https://qz.com/932004/the-oxford-comma-a-maine-court-settled-the-grammar-debate-over-serial-commas-with-a-ruling-on-overtime-pay-for-dairy-truck-drivers/

This $10 million lawsuit came down to an Oxford comma, fascinating. Here's to hoping we don't make this mistake as practicing attorneys!

Hello guys.

I am a beginner in 7sages. I have studied LSAT for 3 months by LSAT Trainer. I recently found out this site and am now running on CC. I posted this because I think I need some advice on the direction of my study before I go further in the journey.

To begin with, I am currently gearing my study to June LSAT, and my average PT score goes 17/18 in LR, 19/20 in LG, and 22/23 in RC. My goal is from high 160 to low 170. Among other sections, LR keeps me from getting higher scores. The reason why I started to follow 7sages' CC was to improve my overall abilities in LR, which is the most hardest section for me in terms of accuracy and timing.

But as for RC and LG, I thought I could improve them by doing what I have done for practice. For LG, I did one section under 35 mins every day and checked 7sages video explanation for games that I had trouble in however little that trouble is. For RC, like LG, I did one section under 35 mins every day and checked what I got wrong.

This being said, is it a good idea for me to stop doing these and follow CC first for LG and RC?**** The reason why I ask this question is that I had not enough time to finish the whole curriculum including LG and RC before June and am just considering skipping LG and RC portions in CC. I just want to ask this question to those who found difference in 7sages curriculum especially in LG and RC.

Thank you.

Proctors: There were about 3-4 proctors circulating the room, with 1 main proctor reading off the instructions and calling time. When monitoring us, they were very quiet and did not linger for long when passing through the tables. I don't believe I ever heard them whispering during the test either. (Granted, I was towards the back and no one near me asked questions during the test.) With enforcing the rules, I was quite surprised at how strict they were as we were only allowed to wear our jackets if the hood was tucked in. Otherwise, there were no jackets allowed on the backs of our chairs. With the exception of the timing mishap below, I would consider them to be quite good overall.

Facilities: Each floor had men's, women's, and accessible washrooms. Though there was a lineup to use them, it didn't take long as there were about 5-6 stalls available (at least for the women's side). They were very clean as well. For drinking fountains, I don't believe there were any, but you could refill your water bottle on the first floor (only if your test was on that floor) at the refill station.

What kind of room: It was a huge classroom (capacity: 188) inside the Swing Building with fixed, long tables and rotatable chairs. There are stairs to walk down to the front of the room with each level comprised of three rows of tables (i.e. smaller at both ends). In terms of wheelchair access, it is only available at the front and back of the classroom.

How many in the room: I believe there were about 6-7 rows of us with about 10 per row spaced one seat apart, so probably about 60-70 students in our room alone? We were randomly assigned to rooms when we first entered the building. I believe there were 4 rooms in total (i.e. 2 on the first floor and 2 on the second floor), though I don't know how many students were in those rooms.

Desks: These were fixed, long tables with rotatable chairs attached—the ideal desktop to do a test on because it's spacious and comfortable!

Left-handed accommodation: This was not necessary due to the long tables.

Noise levels: Minimal, especially if you've practiced with the distractions on the 7Sage proctor. As I said, I don't recall hearing any of the proctors whispering during the sections. At most, there was just the rustling of pages and the occasional cough. Students chattered a bit during the break, but it was at a tolerable noise level given testing conditions.

Parking: West Parkade is right next door and has plenty of parking space. Because it was snowing that day, there was some backup of cars prior to and after the test.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I actually arrived at the test centre at 7:20AM and was lucky to have the building open already. Check-in started prior to 8:30AM and I believe the test commenced shortly after 9AM (due to how slow we were in the admin process).

Irregularities or mishaps: In the fourth section, the proctor forgot to call the 5-minute mark but still ended the section at the proper time. However, this caught several students off-guard, resulting in some commotion (approximately 1-2 minutes) between one student and the proctor prior to the start of the final section. The proctor told us that he could not give us more time but he would make a note of it to LSAC and we could file a complaint if need be.

Other comments: I highly recommend taking the LSAT here if you live in Vancouver!

Would you take the test here again? Definitely! In fact, I chose it over a location closer to me because I was more familiar with it and knew it would be reliable.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: February 4, 2017.

I need encouragement. I did so bad on my first preptest (139) and really want to reach 160. I work full time and just quit my part-time job so I can focus more on the LSAT. I currently try and study about 3 hours a day minimum and 5 hours a day mininmum on the weekends. I just ended the curriculum but with this score I'm feeling like I didn't learn anything (which I hope isn't true). My PT schedule currently is:

Saturdays: Preptest at 12PM

Sundays- Friday: Blind review/ Review my answers/ Understand what I got wrong

Saturdays: Repeat

I want to finish my review of my preptest tonight so I can start drilling the types of problems I'm getting wrong. Any success stories simliar to mine? I WAS thinking of the June test but with this first score I'm not sure I should anymore.

Hi everyone! I just finished my curriculum and planning on taking the June LSAT. What study schedules have worked for you and have made you successful? I'm finding it difficult to get into a rhythm

So I'm brand new and 6 months out and cruising through the core curriculum at about 2.25 to 3 hours a day and I just came across the optional diagnostic. I've got to be honest, the idea of taking a test cold right now seems a little silly as I've only learned the basics of argument and grammar. Is there a serious benefit of taking a cold LSAT test prep-test? Any thoughts either way? My intuition is saying I rather learn everything I can before I start drilling prep-tests and blind reviewing.

Hi all,

I'm studying to take the September 2017 LSAT. I've just enrolled in the 7Sage Ultimate+ course. For those more experienced with the course, what advise would you give for someone starting out?

Should I just go through the syllabus..? Was there a particular study schedule that worked better for you?

Thanks so much!

Hey all, I took the February exam and I've decided to retake in June. I've basically taken every publicly available PT so I'm concerned I won't be able to study the same way I did for February. What do you guys typically recommend for those in this situation? I know JY advocates maintaining one's PT supply but I had hoped I would only need to take the exam once. Sigh. Anyway, given where I am now how would you all suggest I study? I don't consciously remember the answers to the vast majority of questions, though I'm sure there's an unconscious element to it.

Let me know what you all think.

Really appreciate what you guys do here.

Looking for accountability study buddies online in preparing for the June test

What if I purchase the Ultimate package then decide I want the Ultimate Plus package, can I upgrade?

Hello guys.

I am following Starter program, but kind of feeling that I need harder problem sets.

I geared my study towards June LSAT, but recently rethought the plan, and I am still considering whether I should switch it to Sep. LSAT.

In that situation, I am considering upgrading the curriculum into higher ones that include more difficult problem sets. But my concern is whether solving many difficult problems before going to PT would be actually helpful. I think that just studying without knowing weaknesses (which are usually exposed by timed PTs) is not that efficient. Also, since for 3 months I self-studied LSAT through LSAT Trainer and feel familiar with each question type (also by help of CC) I am not sure whether I should practice each question type mode deeply by doing a lot of problem sets. (I usually get 17/18 in a LR section.)

My plan for now is to first complete CC at the Starter level, go into PTs as soon as possible and then purchasing new problem sets so that I could practice where I am weak, which will turn out by PTs.

I just want to hear what you guys think who are experienced more than me at 7sage.

Thank you.