Hypothetical:

Let's say I apply to LS with the Dec lsat score and get in for this upcoming cycle. Can I still take the LSAT in June and Sept for a better score, decline admission, and reapply for the next cycle?

No extenuating circumstances...only because I received a better score (much better score).

Not sure what the rules are re this.

Anyone?

Hey fellow LSAT takers,

I've been seeing lots of good posts on here, and wanted to get some input on my situation. I've been scoring anywhere between 148-154 (I know, not super fantastic, but I'll take it) on my PT's. I took the December LSAT and felt like my test anxiety might've gotten the best of me, and I was right. I scored even far below my diagnostic score. This was actually the lowest score I have ever scored out of the 25 PT's I've taken, and it's a real blow to my self-esteem.

Now I'm questioning my testing capabilities and everything... I was really planning on starting school this cycle, and I'm afraid that with such a low score at hand and only four weeks left to study, I won't be able to get a better score in February. I also feel like I'm just going to waste an entire year if I don't get in this cycle...

Anyone else in a similar position?

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Does it make sense to apply to a school with your June LSAT score, in the interests of taking advantage of submitting your app early, with the expectation of scoring 5-7 points higher in October (big reach, I know, but hypothetically)?

Alternatively, would it be better to take it first in October, with December as the inevitable back-up, and submit apps in January? The benefit would be a stronger first score, since I know I'd perform better if I took it in October rather than June, but the cost is the submission date. If I were to do this, would it be possible to submit my app after my October score, regardless of what I get, and update the school with December (to mitigate the cost of relatively late submission) or should I wait until after?

Thanks in advance

Thoughts anyone?

How do I do BR?

What is your time spent on when you study? I ride the train to work (takes about a half hour) each way. I work on practice test questions, but I find myself dozing off, especially after a long day at the office. I also study at lunch (about a half hour) whenever my co-workers are not having lunch with me. Then, when I get home, I am sort of taking care of housework, other homework (master's degree), working on a project or spending time with family.

What is your studying like? How much time do you actually study? Is it reviewing techniques or working on practice questions, timing yourself? With my schedule, I find that I am not able to time myself on a practice test. Or maybe I should, despite the train announcements?

I signed up for 7Sage in July, planning to take the LSAT in October. I quickly realized that there was no way for me to absorb and internalize all the information I needed in time to be ready for that administration, so I postponed until December. I studied nearly every day for the next 5 months, working through the curriculum and a seemingly endless barrage of practice tests. By the time I sat down to take the real thing, I couldn't read a question without hearing JY's voice in my head guiding me to the right answer. I just got my results and I couldn't be happier. I added 12 points to my initial diagnostic and even scored 1 point higher than my best PT!

To those of you slogging through the course, keep at it. This test is brutal. It demands some serious sacrifice and can take a huge psychological toll on you if you let it. But if you stay focused, put in the work, and take advantage of the guidance that is available on this site, that work will absolutely pay off.

And to JY, Jonathan, Dillon, Pacifico, Nicole, and everyone else who has built this community and helped to create an effective, fun environment in which to prepare for the LSAT, THANK YOU! You've helped put me, and many others, in the best possible position as we prepare to take the next step toward a career practicing law.

Haven't seen anyone post an actual number. Pretty happy with mine and wanna brag to you guys...

so evidently a score in the 71st percentile on the LSAT earns you a score in the 89th percentile on the GMAT (business school admission test). I am an inactive member and am retaking the LSAT down the road. I scored a 157 on the October LSAT (12/16 PTs in low 160s with BR in low 170s) then decided to get a MSF degree and postpone law school. The verbal section of the GMAT is a simplified version of the LSAT with LG replaced by sentence correction. Even though I am not pursuing law school right now I have already reaped benefits. Did you know that you get 2 minutes per question on the GMAT? TWO FREAKING MINUTES!? Imagine what you could do with that time on the LSAT!

Anyways...thank you to 7sage, Pacifico and Nicole Hopkins. It's rather enjoyable to read forum posts here, be reminded of all the fatigue I felt on a daily basis and see how it has positively influenced my life (even if it's outside of law right now).

-Dane

It's here!!

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Would anyone be willing to read and provide feedback to my personal statement tonight?

So I took the December LSAT with no preparation. I'm torn between getting an MBA and going to law school, so I just wanted to see how I'd do. I managed to score a 154, which isn't terrible, but I really need a 160+ to consider law school a serious option.

I did pretty well on the reading comprehension and logical reasoning portions of the exam, but the logic games absolutely killed me. I missed 11/23 questions.

Ideally, I would like to retake the LSAT on February 8th, so I have time to apply to a few schools for the Fall. I graduated in December, and I do not want to wait until the Fall of 2017 to start working on my JD/MBA.

Is it possible to increase your score 6+ points in one month? I would focus primarily on perfecting the logic games section because that's where I have the most room for improvement. I don't have work or school, so I can give LSAT prep my full attention. What do you guys think? Should I go for it?

All of my pt's were in the 156-160 range/I studied for six months & got my score last night (1st time taking was december) and I got a 148...............

Suggestions for February???

Sincerely,

Plz wake me up from this nightmare

I KNOW this has to have been answered before, I just can't find any discussions on it. Is there any way to see trends of ALL my pts and not just the last 5 within 7sage?

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Not only is this extremely embarrassing but the worst part is that I really felt I had improved. I wouldn't mind if it was a high score but I got a 156 three times. Now I'm worried because this looks worse than if I would have taken it just one or two times. Should I add an addendum to my application? I am a URM and have close to a 3.97 GPA and good softs. However, I realize that does not make up for my lackluster score. Now the admissions committee for each respective school will have a reminder of this 3 times. I've never been good with standardized exams. For undergrad I applied to a full tuition scholarship and due to my SAT score was initially not accepted. However, the program director liked me so much that he saved me a seat and told me to retake the SAT to try to meet the cutoff bar they had set. I retook and met it and was then offered admission. I got the full ride and while in college I was able to graduate with the second highest GPA in that honors/scholarship program. I explain this to highlight the difficulties I have had with standardize exams and at least in undergrad, did not reflect the ability I had to excel . With this in mind, I realize that law schools will most likely see that as an "excuse" as LSAT does offer some fair representation of how I will perform and wanted your opinion on whether or not to add an addendum regarding my LSAT score or just let it be. I'm also not sure whether I should apply for some of the top law schools, now with my last LSAT score. :(

Happy Gray Day ladies and gentlemen. So I got 158, 3 points above my average. Solid 22 points above my diagnostic but 7 points below my goal.

I'll be debating retake right up until our deadline Friday but in the meantime I was still in the midst of PT and BR.

My question to the community is whether or not to start BR on 77 as I didn't bother looking at any of the answers and I want to eat Game 3 alive.

What are everyone's thoughts? I still have all of the 70 tests to take and I just don't know if it will be worth it quite yet.

Hi y'all,

I'm just getting started with 7sage and really love it.

But I'm a little confused.

First, for the curriculum question videos (example: Holes in the Ozone - MSS Question) before the problem sets begin, are we supposed to just watch and learn or attempt the problem befor JY explains it to us?

Second, I know it's really early (planning on taking June), but I'm a little nervous about my results so far. Doing both timed and BR, I struggled with the final two Main Point problem sets (on Ultimate+).

Any advice or words of wisdom to either calm my nerves or improve my strategy?

Thanks,

Benjamin

Alright, Dec 2015 was the first time I sat for the LSAT and I ended up getting a 165. My PT average was a 167 near the end (having started at a 155). I'm not applying this cycle (owe a few more years to the Air Force first) but am trying to knock out the LSAT now while I have the time to study.

My GPA was, unfortunately, only a 3.31 (I had too much fun freshman year), so to get to any schools I'd like to go to, I need to be scoring at least a 170-173.

I spent about 3 hours a day, 5 days a week for 5 weeks studying for the December test. So, my question is: do you think I have any shot getting to the 170s by June? And if so, how do I go about studying at this point, since I've already finished all three powerscore books and PTs 62-71?

TL;DR: got a 165, want a 170. Should I retake in June, and how do I study?

I got a 154, 153, and 151. Are law schools going to look at me as a loser now??

I am giving LSAT in February in Asia. Do I need to submit the names of schools before I appear for LSAT or I can do the same even after giving LSAT?

Could anyone sum up the whole process of applying to law schools?

Soooo I'm not the one to post but it seems needed and I have no where else to turn. First things first, I promised myself I would not go to law school unless I got into a top 20 school (specifically UCLA).

I started studying a bit in August of 2014 (I had graduated from UCLA that June) and I started a blueprint course in October. My diagnostic score was a 140...I know really low.. but being the type of person that I am (that I was?) I told myself that I can conquer this and my family was 100% supporting me. They did not want me to work a paid job so that I can really focus on the test. I quickly jumped up to the 150s after about three practice tests and a lot of course work. I was pretty confident at that point that I only needed a few more months to seal the deal to my 170ish score. I was on a great work out routine (I am a hurdler and I compete so I train around 4 hrs a day...the only thing I do besides study), sleep routine, mentally I am very stable (lol...I guess that could be questionable after you read this post) and super healthy so in other words I have no excuses and nothing stopping me. My life literally revolved around the LSAT. Life ----> LSAT where LSAT is the necessary condition to my existence basically. Soooo anyways...I realized that it was not going to be as easy as I thought. The jump into the 60s was gonna be much harder than the jump into the 50s. Which I totally get. By the way, My highest score in the Blueprint course was a 158 but I was averaging 155-56.

So anyways I am still studying after the class which ended in December so from Jan to May I did PT after PT and eventually got to around a 164. Then me being stupid started taking PTs in the 40s and 30s and my scores went up tremendously to 169ish only to realize around July that these sets of PTs are probably much easier and when I decided to tackle the newer LSATs (PT 70) my score dropped to 160 (back to where I was in February). I panicked because I had signed up for the Oct. 2015 test but I figured I still had a little over two months to fix this problem. So i started 7sage around then and I flew threw the course and although I was increasing in Practice test scores (I was back to 165ish range) my Reading comp had severely gotten worse. I went from -20 on my diagnostic to -6 - -8 and now i was getting around -12 - -14 (my reading comprehension is terrible despite being a philosophy major with a 3.7 GPA...English is kind of my second language and I do not talk any English at home but I dont believe in excuses so idk if this is worth mentioning or if this is even something that makes a huge impact and the only reason I bring up my GPA is cause im hoping that would give you insight into who I am and what the hell is wrong with me and LSAT reading comprehension...someone suggested for me to take a reading disability test after me telling them this ..haha...). Logic Games was my strongest section. I could finish a section and have time to check back and just in general I feel like LG is something that if you put in a lot of time and effort (like i did) it actually pays off unlike RC where my score kept fluctuating even though I was focusing a lot on it. So leading up to the test I am getting 166-167 but come Oct. 2015 test i get a 157. I was devastated to say the least but I knew walking out that I did terribly so it wasn't a big shock seeing the number on the screen. But BEING the person that I am I kept going. I put off my life plans and starting Nov. 1 i studied but definitely more relaxed than I was prior to the October test. I am finally currently scoring around a 166 but these are tests I have already seen in the past....I have taken every test (pt 26-76), some even multiple times and my reading comprehension still sucks. I started reading the WSJ I started doing fitbrains I started taking "brain" supplements and in the past I had even began flashcards. Basically I am doing everything I can and Im scared that it still won't be enough for the February test which I am signed up for. Does anyone have ANY advice on what I could do at this point? I dont know what else I could do to break 170 CONSISTENTLY....or even a 160 high...is this amount of time to study for a test even normal?

I can't take it anymore

Would like to start as I've read about the many benefits.

Few questions though:

1) Did meditation help you for the LSAT?

2) Any apps/videos for beginners?

3) How long does it take to start seeing the benefits? Taking LSAT in a month. If I start now is it too late? Thanks!