To those taking the test on Saturday and also in December, how long, if at all, of a break from studying are you taking?

Does anyone know if there is somewhere that I can download past exams as PDFs instead of eBooks? I'm looking specifically for PT 72-77 ... not necessarily looking for a free download (if so, then great! lol) as I am willing to pay for them.

Does anyone know where I can find these? Or if anyone has PDFs of them --- would you be willing to share?

Thanks :)

I am really nervous now , I studied around 2 months, with 5 PT, only get 141, not sure I can overcome it in December, not sure I will try in this Saturday, I want get 160 finally

Well, it's that time again. Another test has come around and for many of us, that means it's time for all of this hard work, passion, and ability to pay off. We've dedicated months if not years of our lives to this test and to the opportunities it can lead to. Just remember that your LSAT score won't be earned on Saturday. You've already earned it. It was earned in the curriculum and in the problem sets. It was earned in the dozens of PT's and BR's and group study sessions. It was earned on that one question you thought you'd never understand but that you refused to let go until you saw right through it, and it was absolutely earned on endless LG fool-proofing drills. So I'm not worried about Saturday, and I'm not worried about any of you either. We've already proven ourselves. Saturday is not when all this happens, it's when it ends. And I know that everyone of us is going to show up and achieve our full potential.

So on Wednesday, whether you need this:

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or this:

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(or both!)

We'll be meeting up to get pumped up for game day! Hope to see everyone there!

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Hey y'all! I wish nothing but the best to those taking the LSAT in September.

I just have a quick question for you guys. So I studied for the LSAT sporadically throughout the second half of my college career.

I quit studying for the test at the end of 2013 as I had to enlist in the military. I haven't studied for it since then. I drilled dozens of RC from time to time but I haven't been able to study consistently. Now that I have time and have become an Ultimate+ member recently, I'm hoping to take the test next year. So I just took the first LR from June 2011 administration UNTIMED and I got a 23/25 and I did not guess any of the questions. I reasoned myself and eliminated every wrong answer choice with conviction. Granted I took it untimed(And I'm going to do this for a while because accuracy and certainty>>>>>>>>>timing right now) but I personally think this is encouraging because the last time I finished PT-ing 3 years ago I was scoring in the range of 158-161 on PT 50s all the way to 69/70. LR June 2011 is still relatively a modern test and so I'm wondering if I'm in good shape to just continue drilling LR sections from modern tests instead of having to go through Manhattan LSAT or perusing LSAT Trainer for LR. Do you think this was just a fluke? I am curious of your thoughts on this! I don't have issues with any particular question types. If the stimulus or the question itself is difficult, I get it wrong. Simple as that. Most of the questions I miss/struggle with have difficulty levels of 4 and 5 on this website. I look forward to reading your comments! But 23/25 untimed LR for a guy who was in the high 150s 3 years ago is actually giving me consolation and strength that with a lot more practice I will be able to write the test next summer/fall.

Your fellow LSATer,

DK

Hi

So this may be a weird question, but do you cook? or buy?

I think I read somewhere, food is also important, but go shopping, cooking, and washing dishes kind of take time...which is good for studying? Saving time or nutrition?

Thanks

I am getting a LOR from my college band director. On the LOR form, it asks for recommender contact information, including an address. Do I put the address of the band hall, for example, or do I have to obtain the house address of the recommender?

hello,

so the study schedule shows that for the 1st couple of weeks its all information based. and the last few weeks are mainly for prep drilling and full tests. Considering I am limited on time, is it good enough to follow the syllabus without prepping/solving sections on the side?

Is there a study group for dec lsat? Should we start one?!

I live in Charlotte and my LSAT is this Saturday in uptown Charlotte. There have been violent protests, people have been shot, and protestors are all concentrated uptown. Our governor declared a state of emergency as well and businesses uptown have been looted and vandalized, people were throwing chairs and bricks through windows and doors last night. With everything going on, would the LSAC cancel the LSAT in Charlotte? This is of course if things don't get better I mean.

Hi,

So I have decided to withdraw from the Septermber test and take it in December. I am averaging at around 165 need to push it to a 170 plus. Would upgrading to Ultimate+ be useful? Is it worth the extra $200? I know what the added features are, wanted to know from people's experience if it is worth it.

Hey guys! If you're taking the September LSAT and your account is inconveniently set to expire a few days before the test date, just email me (dillon@7sage.com) and I'll extend your account for free through the September test. (Make sure you include your 7Sage email!)

For those of you who are expiring after, good luck on the LSAT! We here at 7Sage are rooting for you.

Hi all! Was just wondering what your advice is regarding filling in the answers on test day.. should I bubble in as I go or wait until the end and risk missing the last question or so? Thanks!

Currently in need of some last minute advice right now. I took the June 2016 lsat and scored 163. I was averaging around a 166 during my practice tests before this so I immediately signed up to take this Sept exam.

However the studying for my second exam has been much harder than the first time around and I just can't seem to score better than 163-164, often times scoring below it.

I know the raw score between these scores is only a few points, and honestly I feel with the right logic games/ RC passages I can hit my goal of a 165. So should I still sit for the test on Saturday and hope for the best, or simply cancel now. If I dont feel confident I can always cancel my scores after, but I fear I may think I did well and actually got a lower score than before.

Would me canceling and applying within the next few weeks to my dream law school with my163 (Fordham their range is 161-165) be preferable, or should I at least try for a higher score? I would love to be a little higher in their range, but I fear getting a lower/ the same score would hurt my application.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-1-question-20/

In theory, I understand why A, B, D, and E are incorrect answers.

However, C is a challenge for me to accept. Just because there are other products that constitute the full income of a sheep farmer both locally and internationally, it's not like we know how much of their prior business depended on sales in those areas.

For example,

Income:

2% domestically and internationally - muttton

2% domestically and internationally - sheepskins

2% domestically and internationally - "other products"

4% domestic - wool sales

90% internationally - wool sales

I'm no expert in sales, but hypothetically wouldn't an increase in the biggest portion of your income cover and possibly still leave you with profit in the event that the lowest portions of your income decreased? I would love for someone to point out what I'm not seeing.

Thank you for all help!

I took Dec 2015 and cancelled it. I wonder if I don't take LSAT this December and the limit would expire, right?

I'm preparing for the Feb LSAT if my PT falls into 170s. I am more likely to apply next circle year.

Does anyone here have any experience writing the LSAT in China? I'll be moving there soon for school and I plan on writing at the Beijing testing centre in December.

I have heard that LSAC makes the games section of the Chinese LSAT harder, whereas, LR and RC are often slightly easier questions. Are these largely internet rumours, or is there any truth to them?

Any other advice is also welcome :)

Thanks!

Hi,

I read slow and I don't think I can finish all of the passages within the time.

If I try to read all of them I rush through reading passages and not fully understand what it's talking about and miss questions.

So I'm thinking whether I should only do 3 passages and try to answer all questions correctly...

In this case, is there any way I know which ones to read? How to decide which one to read? For the one I do not read, I will jsut randomly put answers I guess...

Which is actually more efficient to get more points?

Thank you

Hear me out. My situation is a bit different than most of you.

I'm not trying to get into a top school. In fact, I'm not worried at all about getting accepted to the top school in my state - the University of Oklahoma. I want to work in Oklahoma, so there's really no need for me to go elsewhere. That being said, the top 25 percentile LSAT score of OU is a 159 and I've been averaging a 161 but haven't taken that many PTs (8, to be exact).

My goal is to get a 167-170, which I know is not possible for next week's test, so I will be taking it again in December regardless of what I decide to do next week. Anyway, I'm aiming for that score because I already have quite a lot of undergraduate debt and I would like to receive a substantial scholarship so I won't have to slave for a big (for Oklahoma) law firm in order to pay my student loans - I am more interested in public policy, but don't really know exactly what I want to do yet (don't try to talk me out of law school, I have my reasons, but I don't want to explain them here).

Anyway, all of that to ask - in my situation, would it be smart to just take the test next week because there would be little pressure and I could get a good feel for what test day is like? Or, since I'm fairly certain I will be able to get at least a 165 in December, should I just wait and have one score?

Just as the title says...

Is there anything suggests which to use in reading the stimulus?

Thanks

One week before test day! Here are three things to do and three things to avoid in the lead-up.

DO:

Scout out your test site – Even if you don’t know exactly what room you’re going to take your test in, don’t throw up your hands and skip this! There are a lot of different things you can scout out on test day, assuming you know at least the general location they’re going to put you in. Your mileage may vary, but if at all possible you want to get in there and poke around a bit. A (non-exhaustive) list of things you can do:

• Look into the classrooms. Are they full of student desks with those fold-up half-tables, or are you getting long desks? Classroom layouts within the same building generally follow a similar pattern, so look and see if there are clocks inside the rooms and, assuming you’ll be oriented toward the front of the room, whether you can see them easily. Are the seats bolted down? How closely packed are they? Decent lighting?

• Check for bathrooms. Does each floor have both a men’s and a women’s bathroom, or perhaps they alternate between floors? I suggest looking for two bathrooms so that you don’t have to wait in case there’s a line. You can maybe even get away from everyone and clear your head a bit while heading over to your backup.

• Find multiple parking lots, if applicable. Recognize that there will be a lot of people there on test day, and if you can’t find a parking spot it’ll throw a wrench into the whole works. For large university campuses and other such spaces this shouldn’t be a problem, but better safe than sorry.

• Get a sense of the traffic at that time of day. The last thing you need is to have entirely-predictable traffic gumming up the works on your big day. This might be difficult for folks who have full-time jobs, but you students out there have no excuses.

Get all of your logistics ready – Do you have your pencils? Passport photo? Plastic baggie? Lucky jeans? Adult diapers, if you’re going that path? (Just kidding – please don’t go that path). Don’t wait until Sunday; get it all done ahead of time. Especially true for things that you can’t just drop into a drug store on Sunday evening to pick up (i.e. get your passport photos taken right this instant). Think about how you’re going to keep yourself occupied while the test proctor deals with the people who didn’t realize they had to bring their own pencils or know their own social security numbers (there’s always at least one). Also, pick the questions you’re going to do for your Monday morning warmup ahead of time – no scrambling day-of allowed.

Fix your sleep schedule and set your routine – June takers obviously get a bit more leeway on this, as the test doesn’t start until afternoon. Still, the last thing you want to be doing on the day of the test is deciding what to have for breakfast, whether to go for a jog, where you should be doing your warmup questions, and so forth. If you haven’t already, nail down a routine that will allow you to be ready to go at 1pm. In particular, it’s important to avoid the ~2pm food coma – figure out how much food you can have at lunch such that you have enough energy to get through the test without putting you on the brink of mid-afternoon naptime. On test day, it should be pure robotic execution.

DON’T:

Attempt to Cram – Cramming for the LSAT makes about as much sense as cramming for the Tour de France. At this point, if your skills aren’t up to par, they’re not going to be by the time next Monday rolls around. There really aren’t that many things you have to memorize, and all of those things should be completely burned into your brain by this point anyway. Even if you learn an extra thing, it’s just as likely to hurt you as help you – it won’t be integrated into your thought process so it’s not likely to be principled or well thought-out when applied to a question, and it might even introduce confusion. If your skills aren’t there, the solution is not to cram – the solution is to take in October. I typically tell people to shut the books between 48 and 72 hours before test day (in other words, if you’re taking on Monday, stop studying on Friday, or Saturday at the latest). Spend the last few days relaxing, scouting out your test site, and getting into a good mindset.

Take a PT in the last few days – What’s the point? This is all downside and zero upside. If you do about as well as normal, then nothing changes – I accept that maybe it’ll be a minor morale boost in the best case, but it’s certainly not going to be a significant one. If you do better than normal, you’ll wonder if it’s a fluke, and you certainly should know by now not to put too much stock in fluctuations that you can’t replicate. You have no time to even attempt to replicate it, so it’s functionally worthless. Meanwhile, if you do poorly, you risk completely ruining your confidence and mind frame. I’ve seen the doom spiral too many times to count – people get one subpar mark, freak out because it’s so close to the test, take more tests in a desperate attempt to validate themselves again (usually failing because, well, if you’re in that mindset you’re way too tilted to do your best), and wind up scoring way worse on test day for no real reason other than that they took a meaningless practice test way too late in the game. Remember that full-length practice tests are taken for the purpose of giving you a benchmark for how you performed at a particular point in time. Does that benchmark really matter anymore 7 days before the test? You should know what you’re capable of at that point. If you don’t know, then you haven’t practiced enough.

If you insist on studying until the bitter end, then don’t take a practice test – review things you’ve already done instead (it’s much more helpful). If you’re going to take one last practice test, take it early in the week and score it by Wednesday or Thursday at the latest, and then DON’T DO ANOTHER ONE. And if you absolutely positively insist on risking your state of mind for no good reason at all, then for the love of the flying spaghetti monster do not score that last test. In my opinion, if you’re looking at an answer key at any point in the last 72 or so hours before your test, you’re doing it wrong.

Freak Out – Take a deep breath. Look over your previous practice test results, and understand that you are perfectly capable of scoring just as well on the real deal as you did on those. To you, this is the June 2015 LSAT, and it’s understandable that you’re stressing it and putting a ton of mystique around it. But at about 4pm on June 8, 2015, the test will be nothing more than PrepTest 75 - just a number like all of its brothers before it, a tool for September 2015 takers to use as practice. Heck, for those of us who work with the test for a living, it’s already just PrepTest 75, and we eagerly await its release. There is nothing special about this test. It’s exactly the same as all the PrepTests you took before it. Don’t let it psyche you out.

I don’t wish any of my students good luck on the LSAT, because luck has nothing to do with it. Stay calm and focused, apply what you’ve learned, and you’ll be just fine.

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It took 2-3 hours to figure out why correct answer is correct...cannot believe it.

I have several questions like this per LR section...am I wasting time?

Does this happen to you? Or am I taking too much time for just one question?...I mean I'm writing down why it's actually correct for reviewing later, so that takes time too...

Do you do this? Or do you just remember or refer to explanations, and if you miss the same question, you just go back and refer to the explanations again?

What PT's from 1 to __ are used in the ultimate course? Wanted to purchase them.

Hello all! I have a quick question. I'm in the PT phase of my studies, and I'm wondering if 7sage has a tool that shows all the questions I've marked with a star? I typically star the questions I've got wrong on my first go around, and was hoping I could see a full list of those that I marked over the course of my studies thus far. I figured this would be a good strategy for addressing my weaknesses before I continue to move forward. Not sure if this is a thing or not, but any information/advice is always appreciated!