I just got past the 2007 test and am venturing out into the lessons. Did any of you guys actually buy the other tests that have the silent videos available for them? Which tests should I buy first? When I purchased the "ultimate" 7sage program, it stated that the tests came with it. They don't, which is fine, but I'm having trouble figuring out what to purchase first. Can you tell me what you purchased first?
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I am new in here. So can anyone please help me to understand what exactly the karma mean here?
I have been redoing LG games and they're very helpful. I wonder for difficult RC and LR questions that I've blind reviewed before, is it a high yield activity to redo the difficult RC and LR questions? If so, what do you think a good time before reattempting them (eg: 3 days, 1 week or longer). Thank you for your help.
Someone added me as a study buddy,today. When I tried to send a message using the button next to their name, I got the error "You must select at least one recipient", even though the user's username was in the "Recipients" field. I tried in both Chrome and IE, in case it was a browser problem. Any help would be appreciated.
I am confused as to how the U.S. law school application process works...many schools begin accepting applications as of Sept 1., but their websites do not provide any information for applicants applying for this upcoming cycle. How are we supposed to know what the components and directions of the applications are (e.g. personal statement, optional essays, etc.) when they do not post the directions for the upcoming application cycle?? Do they only post information in late Aug, which only gives a few weeks to complete the whole application for those who want to submit in Sept?? I know that you can roughly estimate the requirements based on the requirements from last cycle, but I would not want to complete my current application based on last year's instructions. If someone can elucidate this process, that would be tremendously helpful!
Forgive me if this has been covered elsewhere. I have been at this since December and just finished taking my 14th PT. My BR scores are high (174+) but I still find myself circling a lot of questions for review. I understand that this can vary from test to test due to difficulty, but should I be concerned that, for example, there are still some LR sections that I circle 18? When I circle that many, most are correct a large majority of the time. I've always had a bad habit of second guessing myself, but I don't want to chalk it up to that if it signals an underlying problem. I would be a lot more concerned with it if my BR weren't where I want them. I just can't figure out why I'm still not 100% sure on so many questions at times.
Hi All,
Lots of people have nervous habits. We have the biters, scratchers, sighers, snifflers, pickers, chompers, mutterers, blinkers, tappers, grimacers, finger-flutterers, foot-jigglers, and so on...
I shall confess here that I'm a picker. It's most pronounced when I'm testing. If I'm on a particularly stressful question, I may pick a scab or a piece of dry skin so hard that I start bleeding a little. Besides good ol' medication (which as we know isn't a magic bullet and can affect our mental sharpness), what are some tips on how to calm these behaviors down during the LSAT?
I was inspired to write this post as I just finished a LG section and realized that my forehead and parts of my neck are inflamed (91% correct makes it worth it though, right?). Time to go clip my nails...
Does anyone have any prior experience with the Three Wolf Moon and the LSAT? I have purchased it, but I'm tentative about using it during PT. Will its effects wane over each use?
Also, what's your average score increase while using it? I used it once last week, couldn't resist, and I scored 10 points higher than my first PT back in January without the 3 wolfs.
To play it safe, I'm saving it for Test Day.
I'm wondering if anyone has taken a philosophy course in logical reasoning. If you have, how did you find it? Did you feel it gave you a stronger foundation going into your LSAT prep, or is 7Sage (and any other prep material) sufficient for you? Was it different enough from the LSAT that it wasn't helpful? I ask because I'm considering such a course if it will strengthen my understanding of "lawgic."
I'm still feeling intimidated by the games, even after going through the lawgic lessons and the lessons on the various types of games. This course is offered at my university. Based on the description of the course, it addresses the kind of logic used in the games. It would be helpful to know if it will benefit my studying before I sign up.
(I apologize of this question came up already and has been buried by newer threads).
Hi folks, looking for advice here. As a side note, I love the community feel and all the support on the discussion forum!
I'm trying to score in the high 160s or even maybe low 170s to get significant scholarship offers at my local law school options (the better school here has average 164 LSAT, with 3.67 GPA ). For reference my UG GPA was 3.87.
I started studying in January, but was still at a demanding job and my pace slacked. I picked it up again in June when I quit my job, and my plan has been to study June-Sept and take the Oct exam.
I've finished the Trainer and initially thought to use 7Sage just for LG, but now I've gone through the core curriculum for RC as well. I think the Trainer is great for LR, but I am wondering about going through the 7Sage core curriculum for LR as well - though this would put me behind on my study schedule.
Currently, I'm working through the LG bundle and seeing improvement, but it is slower than I anticipated. I usually drill games until I'm hitting JYs target time for them.
All that to say... lately I have been thinking that the Oct test is a stretch. I planned to begin PTing with BR next week (2-3/wk); If I go through the LR curriculum it will probably set me behind a week, giving me only 8 weeks for PTs. I believe I can do about 23 PTs even with the set back, but I had planned for at least 30 before the test...
I believe I could perform higher if I take in Dec, and some of the schools I am interested in will even take the Feb test. However, I'm concerned I will miss the window of time in which most scholarships are given out.
Any advice or suggestions very appreciated!
So, took my first diagnostic, and I will be completely honest..133.
I don't really know what to say actually at this point.
Just a little self-introduction:
Senior business major at Middle Tennessee State University graduating this December. 3.9 GPA. (4.0 all the way until got a B in Accounting this spring) 4 semesters in a roll on Dean's list. Full ride all the way.
But this LSAT is so different than any of the tests I've ever taken.
1 Logic Games. Had NO clue what to do. Completely guessed every single one of them.
2 Time. I seriously don't have enough time for either LR or RC. Only finished about 15 to 19 then had to guess the rest.
I know this is kinda an old subject for you guys who have experiences in this field but I seriously don't see how I could improve reading speed by THIS standard without not knowing what I am reading. And we all know if don't understand what I am reading, then forget about answering questions. Oh, also gotta answer them correctly.
I know it's my first diagnostic without any prep but I am still feeling extremely defeated and discouraged...I'll admit I'm not one of those beasts standard test taker. I'm not used to this. It completely shattered my expectation and self-esteem. I'm speechless...
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Just imagine, we take this exam about 75 times (assuming you take almost all of the PTs), not all of them are "failures" relative to our own goals, but imagine being turned down hundreds of times? Never stop moving, if some people stopped believing in their ideas we'd never have these things.
Hey all,
I couldn't search for the answer to this as it showed every post containing the word LSAT but is it known when the LSAT Ultimate+ Tier will be available for purchase? I have Premium, and would like to get at least Ultimate, but don't want to purchase it until I see what Ultimate+ costs due to it having the Prep tests after 72 + the hard question sets.
Right now I can upgrade to ultimate for $200 USD with + being TBA. If it does get released at say 300 from my current level, if I've already upgraded to Ultimate for 200 would the upgrade cost a difference of $100? Buying test explanations individual can add up to being a lot after you toss in the USD to CAD exchange rate so to get it all bundled together with as many tests as possible would help me a lot.
Finally, I noticed that the individual test explanations went on sale a few months back. Does that happen periodically or was that simply because the pdfs were being removed?
Thanks guys!
My plan is to take every single PT(1-75) under timed conditions, BR every single questions on every single PT, designating notebooks to BR, meaning write out an explanation for every correct, and incorrect answer. With this, however, I will not be doing timed sections, rather my timed sections will be PT's. After every 5 PT's I was planning to create my own PT with the questions I got wrong from all 5 PT's, as well as games I did not score a -0 on. Do you guys think this is a good idea for studying, and perfecting my abilities to dominate this test? I know this sounds like a bit much, and the burn out is prob real, but I feel like to truly get a 180 you need to transfer all of your energy into this test, and this is what I am planning to do. I should mention my LSAT administration is in December.
The second thing I wanted to ask about is the SuperPrep by LSAC. Is it worth purchasing?
Before I officially became a 7sage/trainer student, I dabbled around on a few other forums and found that many instructors suggest using a website called Speedo to increase reading speed. It is designed on the premise that the subconscious mind prohibits people from reaching their reading speed potential due to the subconscious "reading aloud" even when one is reading silently. Learning to ignore that inner voice allows u to take in what u physically see which can be four or more words at a time, rather than reading the one word at a time that you hear in your head. I tried it for a while and it seemed to work but later felt it was unnecessary. What do you guys think? Has anyone done this long term and reaped positive mind blowing results in RC?
I took the June 2015 lsat and received my score and was excited. I got (enough) to get into the school I was looking at. This weekend I received that letter everyone looks forward to but mine informed me that I needed to retake my lsat. Crushed. I was and still a little bummed but I'm not sure what I should do. I work full-time and with family duties. I'm not sure if I can pour more in more energy into the lsat to move my score but I don't want to give up.
Thoughts on skipping ahead to do the long passages in Reading Comp?
Does anyone know when they will be made available?
I've been really delaying making this thread, partially in hopes that I would start hitting the scores I need to soon, and wouldn't need to basically rant.
I started studying in May, finished the core curriculum + all Cambridge packets in 2months, and July 8th I started doing Practice Tests. I've done 8 in total, I do 3 a week, M, W, and F, mainly in accordance with my local university library's schedule. I blind review the lsats the entire day after, so on Tuesdays, and Thursday, and on the weekends I take it a little easier and blind review half day on Sat and Sun. I should mention that my BR scores are never much higher, they're always around 161, which worries me as time is clearly not the problem. I generally catch my silly mistakes in BR, but reading LR I almost always just go with my original answers. :/
I never took a diagnostic as I didn't want to discourage myself by getting a low score, and also didn't want to do LG without having proper diagramming skills. If I had to guess, I would say it would be pretty low, probably 140s, but I guess I'll never know.
Unlike most of the people on 7Sage, I'm from Canada, and here all you need to get into a vast majority of the schools, even some of the best ones is an LSAT score of 160+, assuming you have a stellar GPA, which I'm happy to say I have. For my particular school of choice, a 162 on the LSAT would guarantee me a spot according to the index score used for this year, and 160 would most likely get me in off the waiting list.
Now getting to the rant part, I'm stuck in a slump. My last 5 LSAT scores have been: 159, 157, 156, 158, and today was 157. The corresponding raw scores were 74, 69, 71, 70, and 73.
According to the analytics I have the most difficulty with Flaw/Descriptive weakening questions, and Law passages (the irony :L).
LG is my strongest section, I usually go -3 and it's usually due to either not having enough time or misreading some rules. RC is weird for me, there are days like today, where I went 20/26, and others where I go 18/28. LR is another weird one, it's all over the place. Average is 66%, usually 17/25, but some days I go 20/25, and today oddly enough I went 19/25, and 15/26.
I've been reading the Trainer, and am on Chapter 10, but stopped after I started taking PTs, will get back to it asap, and try to make sure I read one chapter everyday.
So sorry for this loooooooong background story, but I need help getting out of this slump and I'm so sick of coming home and marking my LSATs only to find out I keep getting 157ish. I'm hoping maybe as long as I keep at it, I'll eventually just increase my score, but I keep thinking like no matter what I do I always end up at the same score. Like days where I rock LG and RC, I mess up LR, and other days I rock LR and mess up RC.
Is there any other material I should get, like potentially read through the Manhattan LR, or go back and review 7Sage core lessons?
By Oct I need to get 160+, and I would even be happy with literally just getting 160, but I'm worried as people say the later tests are even harder, and if I'm scoring 157 on these earlier, apparently easier tests, I don't want to know what will happen later on. Which is why I think I'm going to start jumping around, I've done PTs 39-46 so far, and I think I should do 60s next week?
Anyway, thanks for reading, and I apologize again for making this exceptionally long.
* Oh and regarding time, I generally haven't had a problem with not finishing sections on time, that being said I don't have extra but I somehow always seem to just finish before time runs out, don't get any time leftover to go back to any questions, but when I go through questions I usually pick one without the intention of having to come back.
Hey!
As I work through the LR/Reading Comp sections, there will occasionally be questions that stump me even when I get the correct answer choices.
I know LSAT Hacks provides answer explainations for the newer tests and SOME older ones. Are there any more explanations out there??
Hey guys I just just thought of something crazy, and possibly really stupid... but what the hell, I'm going to share it with you anyways! I've always thought the way JY goes through logic games by copying, pasting and erasing game boards really quickly and easily was really awesome. We obviously can't do that while doing games and erasing when you do everything with a pencil gets really messy.
During questions instead of writing down hypotheticals I end up keeping a lot of things in my head which sometimes results with me making stupid, really stupid mistakes. A few seconds ago I just thought to myself: Why don't we just write the main game board with a blue colored pen and then go through the questions with your normal pencil? I think this can give us the flexibility of jotting down new info for each question (if it's useful) with your pencil over your main game board and then quickly erasing after we are done answering. Any thoughts?
Hi all. I'm sure this has been addressed many times before, but does The Trainer use questions from Prep Tests that 7Sage doesn't?
I'm thinking about using it as a supplement, but I don't want to waste too many questions from valuable practice tests.
Other thoughts on The Trainer? Thanks.
I wanted to buy the 7sage starter course, but I don't have PTs 39 to 44 (the ones the courses use) so I will have to buy them separately. Are these PTs too old? Currently, I am following the trainer schedule and they use 52-71 which I do have. I started reading the trainer already and only took the 2007 diagnostic so far. Should I purchase 7sage starter course since they use older PTs and then pick up on the trainer since they use newer PTs? Or should I just not get the 7sage at all continue with the trainer and then If I still don't feel comfortable once I finish get 7sage? Thank you!
Hi Everyone,
I keep seeing various people talk about the 'LG Bundle' and I was wondering where I could purchase it or if it's even still available.
Thanks for the help!
Wouldn't it be great if all LSAC proctors used the 7sage proctor? It would be reliable, consistent, and would reduce the rate of errors on their part. Or they could use some other type of app that isn't endorsed by any one particular LSAT company. The fact that they use manual timers (which allows for time shortages) is quite ridiculous in my view.
(It should be painfully obvious this is only wishful thinking) :p