Not to get into politics... but this is a great performance!!!

Hello everyone,

I'm new to 7sage, and I just wanted to reach out for some help. I took the February, scored a 153, and that was after selfstudy using the lsat trainer and a tutor. I studied roughly 4 hours day for 4 months. I felt like I did everything I could, and I felt prepared. But yet I didn't even get close to what I wanted. What does it really take to boost your score? How can I get my confidence back? I plan on taking the june LSAT, but I still feel defeated. Has anyone been in my shoes?

Thank you!

I was wondering if anyone was willing to share their experience with Manhattan Prep's materials, specifically their Reading Comprehension Strategy Guide. A little background, I have worked my way through the 7sage curriculum, the LSAT Trainer and am currently drilling using the Cambridge Packets, 1-38. All of those things have been wonderfully helpful. I am now PTing regularly and am scoring between 166-171. RC is my most variable section and I am wondering if their guide can help me with consistency. I have read elsewhere (TLS) that Manhattan Prep's materials are good for those approaching the 170's.

Also, a specific question for anyone that has used the book, which PTs are the passages pulled from? Are they newer than 38? I want to make sure that I don't "contaminate" a PT that I haven't taken fully-timed. I can't seem to find a straight answer to that question on their website, their online forum or from their customer service reps. Thanks!

I ran across this sometime ago and it really hit home. I'm feeling led to post it here in case some students out there need a boost.

HI all,

I'm planning to work really tight for June Lsat. I don't work nor do nothing else other than preparing for LSAT for now. It would be great to have someone to study with. I really hope to finish this test by June...! So anyone want to study full time for Lsat together for roughly two months, please PM me!

I'm living in West New York, the west side of NJ. I can go up to around Fort lee, or go down to Jersey city or NewPort or other areas about half an hour driving away.

I dont prefer but if I have to, I can go to the city as well.

or others who want to do PT together from time to time, please PM me.

As I am currently practicing previous game sets from PT 1-38, i was wondering how I should set up general spacing strategy for basic diagramming.

From what i understand (what my friends told me) it is said that one game is provided within 2 pages on the actual LSAT test, with general rules with 1~2 question on the first page and the other questions on the next page. So i was wondering...

1. Does everyone generally set up global diagram on the first page and draw out the rest of local diagrams on the next page as the questions come up? I was wondering if this strategy will be effective for the actual LSAT. (most of problems sets i have printed out are printed on one single page individually, which make me confused because they are not printed in the way they should be printed on the actual test).

2. As I was following up video explanations on 7sage, i found out Laoshi Ping's method of coming up with few templates and applying each rule on every local question. But i believe such tactics will be very difficult for local questions on the actual lsat because we will have to copy and re-draw every diagram and rule for each question. Should I keep practicing on drawing local diagrams 'faster'? or Do you process local diagrams and rules in your head while solving those local or additional problems?

Thanks in advance! As an international student studying for the LSAT I must say that resources and assistance from 7sage have been by far the most helpful!

Hey guys, I've decided the best study plan for myself is to take Pt's once or twice a week, then go back and essentially blind review by understanding where each of my mistakes were made (all while going through the lessons 7sage provides). On my second practice test after diagnostic, I jumped 3 points. Today on my third, I went down 1 point. In the scheme of things, I feel like this if anything was an improvement. While taking the third PT, I didn't feel very confident with a lot of the questions, and thought I did much worse than the second PT, however that was not the case. Anyways, back to the point of this, do you guys think this is a good strategy? I know I can't expect a point jump every test, but maybe after 20 PT's, my score will be up 10 points.

Quick background: I'm heading for the October test and my 7Sage schedule (I'm using the Ultimate tier) has me due to finish the core curriculum on April 13th and then drill PTs at a rate of 1 or 2 a week until the start of October.

But I've hit an issue. I'm finding the logic games very, very, very tough. For example, the schedule budgets 4 hours for the first five sequencing problem sets, but I'm needing around an hour for each game, so this 4 hours soon becomes 20 hours. I'm getting quite stressed because it's causing me to fall majorly behind on the schedule.

Here's my question...thanks for being to patient up until this point ;)

Is it imperative that I drill PTs for five and a half months, at 1/2 a week? Or, could I perhaps take an extra month on the core curriculum and then increase the frequency of PTs? I think taking an extra month on the core curriculum would really allow me to pace myself to the point of proper understanding, rather than stressing out due to the timeline and losing brain power.

I suppose I am curious how long most people spend on the PT stage. Perhaps 5.5 months is quite long, anyway, and I can easily afford the extra time.

Any wisdom shared will be met with a virtual glass of wine.

:)

Hey Everyone,

I'm posting here to see if anybody can help me in trying to figure out the answers to two Flaw Questions that appeared in Section 3 of the 2012 LSAT India Exam. The link to the Exam is Right HERE!

http://www.pearsonvueindia.com/lsatindia/docs/IndiaFreePrepTest2013_Final_v2.pdf

The first one would be Q10 in S3. I picked A, based off the fact that I thought it encapsulated the flaw more articulately than D. I know that D is an example of a shell game answer choice, but it still is confusing. Can someone provide me with an 100% correct reason why A is correct - or is my reason adequate enough?

The second one is Q14. This one was quite tough for me ( I didn't know what the definition of morally arbitrary was, I looked it up and I believe it to be "morally unjust") Can someone explain this problem as well. I picked C off of POE because it was the only answer choice that seemed to imply the forced compromises the opposition groups forced on democratic governments were not actually "harmful" or "undemocratic", which was the assumption the argument required.

Thanks!

Will the pdf PTs we've already dowloaded onto our computer from 7sage disappear once the new policy hits? Forgive, i'm decent at logic but extermely challenged at technology...

Hi, all. Wondering if anyone with a less the angelic past has undergone the moral character determination and come out on top. I'm not a hardened criminal by any means, but I was a bit rough as a teen/young adult. Misdemeanor as a juvenile and one as an adult. I'm old (40 now) and have been a Marine on active duty for 17 years. This stuff is long in my past, but after doing some research it is all about to get dug up again. I've read on the CA and AZ bar pages about their standards, and it seems like i'll be okay. They put a lot of weight on the time that passed between the incident and now, as well as what you've done since. I'm just curious to hear from others if they've had any problems or pointers. I know full disclosure on both the law school app and bar app is paramount. Thanks ;)

Hey there 7sage community! :)

I figure we actually put the new titles to good use and hear some feedback from those with "mentor" and "sage" status. It would be great if you can share the following:

1. A basic rundown of some of the pitfalls you went through studying for the LSAT;

2. Any significant highlights you may want to share while studying for the LSAT; and

3. Any significant resources (<3 7sage) that helped you on your path to LSAT ownage! ^-^d

FYI: As future lawyers, I think it's prudent we be concise with our feedback! Also, please share new and unique experiences to you! You're all amazing with your very own encounters that I'm sure can be helpful to the community at-large! Yay you!

I'll start! I've tried Powerscore, Testmasters, LsatFreedom (heard of it?), 7sage, The LSAT Trainer, and Manhattan Prep. I found the latter three the most beneficial through my own heuristic experience. (You can ask me why via PM for the sake of keeping it brief!) Highlights...most people I've met through studying for the LSAT are really good and decent people with a strong sense of community and ambition. I'm constantly meeting very impressive people that are on this wild ride with me! The future of governance and the legal field is in good hands from what I've seen thus far! Stay happy and healthy! :)

I know I am not the only one who is having this problem, but it's kind of bugging me given its persistence. So there is roughly a 10-15 point gap between my actual test score and my BR score. I was just wondering what some of you have done in order to try and close the gap as much as possible because...this kind of sucks. Thanks!

If Jays, Martins, or both are in the forest then so are Harriers.

If J--> H

If M -> H , according to JY we should split when "or" is in the sufficient .

So what would the contro-positive be?

If not H-> not J?

If not H -> not M?

or would it be If not H -> not J and M ??

or is it if not H -> not J or M ?

Another question ....

But not both , or

Alan or Chris goes to park, but not both

If not A (-) C

If not C (-) A

so for not both, do we always just pick one throw it on either side of arrow and negate it?

Is this a website issue or the effect of the new licensing agreement? I thought 7Sage was safe until April 24th! I attempted to download them from a school computer to print, my Macbook Pro, and my Desktop.

Hello all,

I work full time and I'm having a hard time making time to study. I leave the house at 8:10am and come back between 6 and 6:30pm every day. I cook, eat dinner, and then study from 8 - 11pm. On the weekends, I study 4-8 hours each day. However, I feel like I'm not getting in enough study time and find myself making very slow progress because I don't study much during the week. I've tried getting up earlier, but it's a huge struggle and when I do manage, I'm half asleep half of the study time. What do you guys do to improve time management/squeeze in more study time during the week? Do you think I should fix my sleep cycle and study early in the morning rather than at night? I'd really appreciate any advice/tips you might have :)

Hello All,

I started the 7sage course in January 2015. I have being doing PT's for 2 weeks now with 2 PT's/week as I work full time. I bought the Premium package so I have PT's 36-57. This means that by test day, I should have completed all of these at the current rate. However, I am wondering if I should buy the more recent PT's (60 and on) in order to better prepare? This would mean skipping some of the PT's that come with the 7sage package that I have already bought, which is fine if that would be more helpful. Is this preferable? Any recommendations are welcome! Thanks in advance!

I'm already using 7Sage, I bought the regular version. I was wondering if the way Kaplan (In Class) teaches contradicts what 7sage teaches. I know there are bad reviews on Kaplan, but I know someone who took it here (Nevada) and they said it improved their score and the teacher was helpful. I know it's over $1000 but that really isn't a big issue. Just like the course says, why spend 4 years on your GPA and only 1 month on the LSAT if they are both considered equally? You could say the same for paying $30,000 on undergrad education but complaining about LSAT prep prices. (Not saying 7sage isn't a great course at an affordable value)

I understood the Lawgic lessons well...but am having a lot of trouble with resulting real LR questions. The actual stimuli on real-world questions don't appear to be as clear-cut as those in the Lawgic lessons, and I'm missing a huge heap of correct answers due to my inability to turn them into Lawgic.

Is this something that will improve with time (I am currently only 40% through the core course and haven't yet started PTs), or should I already be able to convert every LR question to Lawgic without difficulty?

If so, and I am lacking behind, are there any good resources elsewhere for helping to make this conversion more fluid and natural? I'm more than open to purchasing other books, etc.

Thanks in advance!

JJT.

Hey guys,

So I am registered to take the June LSAT but today got email from William and Mary Law school (yes , a rejection letter sigh ). I am guessing they reviewed my application based on a LSAT score from 2 years ago. Is that a common practice among law schools? I thought they would hold application?

(Feb2013 LSAT score 147)

Aiming to get 158 on June lsat :)

So I did some serious BR review and noticed that during practice (both timed and untimed) I misread the question, sometimes multiple times, before ultimately getting the question wrong out of my inability to understand the stimulus. Is there anything specific I can do to tighten my understanding of these questions? I've been studying for a few months now, so I don't know if continual drilling is improving carefulness.

Thanks.

So far my only option is Princeton Review (as far as in person and weekend goes). I have heard mixed things about them which leads me to be hesitant. PowerScore offers a two day (one weekend) course in person but I can't imagine that having any decent effect.

Anyone have any suggestions?

I work full time and learn best with an in person environment, so naturally this is my preference.

My test date is June 2015.

Any input is appreciated. Is Princeton really THAT bad?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-15-section-4-game-3/

Rule 4 throw me off. It says

J drives on Wednesdays or Saturday or both, and he may also drive on other days

So basically J can be weds or Sat or both ...which I get. But if J is not both rule is therefore violated correct?

Diagram would be

IF J is not on 3-> J is on 6

If J is not on 6 -> J is on 3

?

Hey guys,

I'm seeking advice on the proper way to check up on a letter of recommendation. I asked a professor, through e-mail, near the end of February, if he would write me a letter of recommendation. He said yes, told me to send him info from LSAC, and that he would have it done by the end of that week. It has been almost a month and LSAC has yet to receive a letter.

Just wondering what the best way to check up on the LOR without being a 'pest,' so to speak.

Thanks

I had to halt my study since last September test (yikes) and I am ready to jump back into LSAT. I only had 3 months to prepare for September 2014 Lsat and was hoping to have a good year to prepare for this coming October test but with a newborn baby (born on Dec, 2014) and a full time job, it just was impossible to make any time for a study.

I hope past study was not a complete waste of time.

I am considering taking 7 sage premium course. Has anyone had a big improvement after taking the course? Also, how does upgrade work? If I start with premium then want to sign up for Ultimate, do I just pay the difference or do I have to pay Thor the full Ultimate course?

Thank you in advance!