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So, I will be taking my first official test this October. If and when I get my score back and I do not feel comfortable with the score, should I still power through practice tests in between the time of the test and the day I get my score back?

A lot of us will probably come out thinking they didn't get the score they anticipate. In other words, should I continue studying after October 3 as if I'm planning on taking the December LSAT?

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Last comment saturday, sep 26 2015

pt 65 s 4 q24 error?

hmmm. isn't D diagrammed backwards. ie. All students can participate in recess after the bell has rung.

Bell doesn't ring, they can't go to recess.

~ring -----> ~recess

Recess ----> Ring

All employees can participate after they have been with the company for 1 year.

Not 1 year service then can't participate

~1 year ----> ~participate

Participate -----> 1 year +

Video instead says 1 year + ----------> participate?

Gavin is 3 years instead of 1. And then they conclude that he must participate from a can premise. That is why it doesn't match. I think there is error in the video.

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My 3 recent PTs I have experienced an oddity.....my timing is deplorable.....

For prior PTs I would reach question 21 or 22 in each LR section when time is called.....but for my 3 most recent PTs I only finish up to number 17.

By the 30 minute mark I am only on question 15.... why is this happening? I feel so much slower than before! I have to read, then re-read, then re-read again, the stimulus before going to the answer choices...

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Last comment saturday, sep 26 2015

pt 65 section 4 # 14

Main Point question, I agonize between B and E. B is wrong because they never said it was not the only factor? But isn't E wrong as well because the conclusion was about unlikely that a prediction will occur where as E said probably will not? Isn't E kind of too definitive?

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I took the June LSAT. I'm signed up for October but I don't feel prepared. I was thinking I would take December instead.

My question is: would it seem unattractive to law schools if I took the June LSAT, cancelled my score for October, and took December?

Because I paid for October; I might as well take it for practice and just cancel my score.

Thanks

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I'm feeling pretty depressed and just beaten down right now because I'm not doing any better at the LSAT since I began for the most part. My lowest timed score in June was 144. To my utter disbelief, I took a PT today and got a 147. I've figured out that I'm only missing around 10 questions because of my stupidity; the rest I'm just unable to get to because I run out of time. I've gotten near 170 before multiple times, but those tests were all untimed. I'm scheduled to take the October 3rd test and I just don't know what to do at this point. I'm unable to get to at least 5 questions from each section.

Does anyone have any advice? I've been going through tests, doing BR, recording my score, and watching the explanation videos. I've also been looking through the analytics, seeing which question types I'm missing, and then reviewing the core curriculum for the applicable section. I'm starting to think that I'm just not made for law school. It seems like the test is just so much easier for other people; I actually had a lawyer laugh at me a few weeks ago when I told him I was actually studying for the LSAT (I'm quoting, "No one studies for the LSAT. If you have to study, you shouldn't try to go to law school."). I've been studying for 4 months and wish I had longer (my pre-law advisor actually told me I should just grab a logic games book and flip through it, that no studying was really required).

Since d-day is so soon, any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks guys!

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Last comment friday, sep 25 2015

Stress Reduction

Greetings.

Stressed?

Watch this for a moment. Full screen. Headphones if you have them. Focus on observing the river. Its flow. Its rushing, rushing flow. Lovely river. Look!

I just did. I feel better already.

Share your stress reduction (and intervention) tips below.

Or, ask for tips on combatting your own stressful/fearful thoughts.

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Last comment thursday, sep 24 2015

Take Oct 2015 LSAT or take later?

I’m trying to calm my nerves before my first LSAT which is coming up in less than 10 days. I’m scoring in the low 160s but I really would like to improve and break the 170 mark. Is that possible (or rather what is the possibility) given I only have a week left or should I not take the LSAT now and take it when I am more fully prepared in 4 months (Feb 2016, can't do Dec)?

I've only done 20 PTs and have 10 of the most recent prep tests (after 50) left and most of old ones untouched. I studied slowly but steadily over the summer to get used to the LSAT and started increasing the frequency of PTs taken so that starting September I could do at least 3-4 per week full timed PTs, experimental and writing.

Should I use all the new tests now or save them and take the later LSAT? I also didn't find out about the BR method until now and I feel like I've wasted precious PTs. I also just bought copies of the Powerscore books which I plan to go through pretty much fully in the next 3-6 days. My plan is to do 1-2 solid days of games until I can perfect them (currently get 1-5 wrong), categorize my argument trouble areas and fix them, and figure out something for reading comprehension using the books and practice tests.

I also still have 1 year before I apply to law schools, my GPA is almost a 3.8 and likely will be 3.8 by the time I apply.

Any advice, recommendations, etc. would be very much appreciated!

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Last comment thursday, sep 24 2015

Currently Stuck in low160s

Currently PT-ing in the 161-164 range. Have been here for a while.

My goal is to take the test in Dec. I plan to crack 170.

I'm not asking if it's possible. I figure everyone is different. Rather, my question is if anyone has witnessed a 6-8 point bump within two months of rigorous studying.

Also. Any and all words of wisdom are welcome.

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Moving from bracket to bracket (140 to 150 to 160 to 170...)?

Consensus on the board is curriculum+BR+management of your body/mind+don't burnout.

Is there an overall mindset you need to have to make the gains you want?

Obviously not being down and negative about your scores, keeping a resilient face would seem to be something to keep in mind. But has anyone come across something that has helped their scores outside of actually practicing the material?

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Last comment thursday, sep 24 2015

Only one form of ID

Guys I'm very confused. In today's lsac email it sounds like 2 plus a picture. But on the ticket it says one. I only have one so the sooner I find out the better (if not tomorrow I'll have to get a state id or soemthign cuz it's too late for passport)

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Last comment thursday, sep 24 2015

BO

I feel BURNT OUT. I literally feel like crying every single time I look at a question and I can't focus to save my life.

BUT, I also suffer from the syndrome of "not being able to stop because stopping means losing precious time before October 3".

So. Someone just tell me to stop.

Kthanks.

Sincerely,

emotionalandtiredanddrainedandseekingvalidationthatitsoktofeelthisway

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Last comment thursday, sep 24 2015

How Long to Take

I understand that everybody moves at their own pace and that everyone's goals are different but does anyone know how long the course is supposed to take you to get through? I've started 2 weeks ago and I'm almost 55% through the material as it is but I'm very concerned with not retaining the material by rushing through to try to get to take tests. I've studied a little bit with other methods before I found 7sage but I'm just curious how long it took other people to go through the material before they start really taking prep tests. I took 2 tests before I found 7sage, the highest was 162, and I plan on taking at least 30 before December because I understand that taking tests and BR are really where you see your big gains. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciated and good luck to everyone studying!

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Last comment thursday, sep 24 2015

Test Selections

Hello Everyone. I plan on taking the October LSAT but I do not feel confident at all. I am also taking the December LSAT as a backup option. I read so many articles about both of these exams and when people are applying. For those who plan on going to Law School Fall 2016, which LSAT are you taking? Do you feel as though there is a harder deadline to meet for the December exam?

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Last comment wednesday, sep 23 2015

What's the point of the LSAT?

Hey everyone,

If you're anything like I was, when you're studying and you get frustrated, you might ask yourself... What's the point of this stupid test anyways?

Well.. being in my second week of 1L right now, I feel compelled to come back to these forums and tell you. Please keep in mind as you read this, these are just my opinions, I am sure there are others.

1. Reading Comprehension:

There are two key reasons why RC is so important. First, I am only in my second week and I have probably read about 500+ pages of mandatory readings, and much more supplementary readings to try and get a better understanding of some concepts. So, the point is if you want any chance of keeping up with the work load, you must be able to read AND retain at least somewhat quickly. Second, most of my readings have been cases that involve reading what some judge (or more) had to say about a case. This includes:

What they see the issue as (legal issue)

What they think should be the resolution

Why and how they came to this resolution

You are essentially reading a judges thoughts splattered on a page. It is up to you to sift through it to find the important stuff. Sometimes judges write clear and its not so difficult to follow. However, they are experts in a complex industry, which means their vocabulary can be intense at times (especially when you don't have a good grasp on this new language or what the lingo is)

2. Logical Reasoning

I want to move to LR now because it overlaps with what I was going to say with the rest of RC. Like I was saying you are reading these dense complex passages. Why do you need LR?... because the entire point of you reading these cases and judgments is to figure out what the main point is (ratio decidendi). But, it doesn't stop there... you also need the premises the judge made to get to that conclusion! And the rest is just filler or side notes or some random babbling that might interesting to read but doesn't really matter to what you need for class.

So now you've read (quickly)... got the main point.. got the judges reasoning... you're all set right? --- NO!

Now you are going to go to class and have a professor ask you a ton of questions. Sometimes they might ask you to just simply state something that has happened or was said. But, other times they might ask your opinion. Well how can you give that if you aren't ARMED with LSAT skills? By identifying what flaws may have been made or why an argument was strong or weak, you are now capable of telling the prof what your opinion is.

See.. it all kind of starts to make sense? Sort of?...

3. Logic Games.

Unfortunately I have nothing for these. I guess they are just some section they included to add an element of "fun" to the test. I don't know.

Key point is, YES there is absolutely some overarching goal of the LSAT! I don't know if I believe that a higher score necessarily means better student (obviously higher score might correlate to more work which might mean stronger student). But, I can definitely say that there is a reason the LSAT is important beyond being a measure of determining who should be accepted at a school. It prepares you for the workload (at least in some sense) that you will be faced with if you are accepted! You will need to put in the hours, just like the LSAT... from Day 1! You will need to read long boring passages and see what a judge is thinking, why they are thinking, and what the heck the point is of even reading what they think!

Look at the LSAT as preliminary training for what you about to embark on! Because as a "fresh" 1L student, I can say it definitely doesn't get easier! It's all part of the plan! So train hard, worry less, and good luck all!

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