So, I totally understand why Powerscore books are not recommended and why the LSAT Trainer is. However, has anyone used the Manhattan books...especially their Logic Games book? A friend of mine (who is now done with the LSAT) gave me his Manhattan books to go over. From my research, I think they're recommended more than the Powerscore Bibles. I also read that Mike Kim had co-authored these books. Any thoughts on them?

Whats the best strategy to deal with questions that relate to weakening questions on logical reasoning? I keep getting those wrong and I don't know how to approach them. Thanks!

Hey all,

The June 2015 LSAT (PT 75) is available for purchase on LSAC and Cambridge. Here are the links: https://os.lsac.org/Release/Shop/PublicationDetail.aspx

http://www.cambridgelsat.com/preptests/4-section/

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thoughts on writing the LSAT for a third time? Let's say my score decreases on the third write, how much does this impact me? What if I choose to cancel after the third write? How does that impact an application?

For context, I scored a 162 on my first write, a 168 on my second write, and PTed (over 30 tests) at 173.

Hey everyone,

Let me begin by saying how wonderful it is to have such a large student base to discuss concerns with. I stumbled upon this LSAC forum event taking place this fall near me and was curious if anyone else had gone to one ? They have a few events like discussing the application process etc. A big bonus to this event is that a lot of the law schools registered in LSAC are going to be present. With that, I felt it would be a great opportunity to not only get some extra pointers but to also network with the recruiters for these schools. Here's my problem though, I am one of those slow-to-warm-up kind of people and am not sure how to go about taking advantage of this opportunity. Any advice, suggestions or personal experiences would be greatly appreciated ! This whole thing is a new world for me and being that I won't be taking my first lsat until October makes it extra odd for me. (Seems a little difficult to network with schools I desire without giving them something to make me seem desirable) lol

Hello!

I have read so many good things about the LSAT trainer and I plan on purchasing the book. So, my question is how do you incorporate the LSAT trainer with 7sage. Do things overlap? Also, as a side not I am in the beginning stages of studying, I just finished the weaknesses/assumptions portion of 7sage.

Thanks for any help or advice!

Good news, we finished the problem set changes! The problem set overhaul is going live tonight (Wednesday night / Thursday morning) at:

12am midnight Pacific time

4am Eastern time

The change requires a lot of manual changes to the course, so it will take at least a couple of hours for me to complete the change. During that time the site will still be completely available, but there will be temporary weirdness with the arrangement of problem sets in the course.

As we mentioned earlier, if you are in the middle of a group of problem sets, please try to finish the problem sets before the change over and delay further problem sets until after the change happens.

Once the change is done, you will see only the new problem sets. You will be able switch between the old problem sets and the new problem sets from the Account page.

We will be adding this option so that students who signed up before April 24th 2015 and have copies of the old PDFs. If you signed up with 7Sage after April 24th, we recommend using the new problem sets and ignoring the old problem sets.

For some reasons, I spent most of my time on practicing LR and it is so far my worst section. Just took Pt47 today and got 22 wrong in LR. The breakdown is -5 RC -3LG -8LR and -14 LR (third section). I am pretty disappointed because i was doing pretty well on LR individual sections. The questions weren't that hard, i only had to guess two questions for each section. I basically went over the entire 7 sage curriculum twice. For past months, i've worked on old LR sections (p44 backward). My LR strategy is reading the stimulus, question stem and pick the correct answer choice. I rarely used POE unless it was a hard question. I tried reading stem first but i got distracted so I changed the approach. I will retake the test this oct. I did so bad on LR and RC for the previous test so i ended up canceling it. Now my RC seems ok, but LR is getting worse. This is my second pt after the first exam. Did anyone have this problem and overcome it? I'd appreciate if you share your experience.

Is it okay to grade your timed tests before you move on to BR?

My reasoning is that since you just get a number, for instance 160, and you have no idea which questions you got right or wrong, it wouldn't hurt the effectiveness of blind reviewing. I get anxious to know how I did after my timed exams. :p

J.Y,

I am having difficulty accessing the explanations for the logic games videos. I can hear you, but can't see the videos.

Ever since the new problem sets were released, I've been experiencing problems with this site. Problem sets that previously showed would take 15 minutes now show 1.9 hours! This is really annoying since before I was over 50% through the course and now I'm only at 42%. I know there was some new content added, but that can't account for the extra 10-12%, right?

Also, my problem sets are messed up. For example, I was working on parallel flaw questions and when I clicked on some questions it would take me to a main point or principle identify question. 7sage is usually flawless but this is really annoying!

Also, I guess it's important to note that I still am using the old problem sets. For those who have all the PDFs from recent exams, I'd suggest you use the older problem sets since they cover questions from all difficulty levels + they have video explanations. The newer ones only have the actual questions (no explanations) with only easier problems, unless you paid for the most expensive course. I used the newer problem sets for a bit and the questions were a complete joke. Working on them won't prepare you for the harder questions, and if you're looking to score 165+, this will harm you in the long run.

Hi,

What is the best way to study for the October LSAT and how many hours a day?

I purchased all 3 bibles from Powerscore and all the exams.

Would this be the best way to study?

Should I just keep taking practice test after practice test?

Should they be all timed?

Please help out :)

Thanks!

Does anyone know what character and fitness flaws are dealbreakers?

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for a way to change up my study strategies for the October test, which will be a retake for the June test. I've been trying out tutors and the BR group, and I think it would be most effective to work with one or two peers who are are also around the same stage of studying. Currently, I'm alternating between the 50s and 60s, and working my way back to the 70s by September.

If anyone is interested and wants to talk, just send along a personal message!

I'm currently studying 3 hours/day. I really need to increase my study time to 6-8 hours/day to finish the work I need to improve my logical games, LR and RC. I'm studying LSAT full time, but can only put in 3-4 hours/day before I'm mentally exhausted. If you have any suggestions about how to increase my study time and still absorb the information, would you let me know?

Where is the best place to obtain paper copies of prep tests? It looks like through my course here with 7Sage that I am going to need PT 36 - 58.

I'm a bit confused as to when US law schools start accepting applications...a lot of websites currently list old dates. Is the earliest usually in Sept or Oct?

I'm going to look at a few schools this week and wanted to know if there are any questions that I should not be asking the admissions committee. I was accepted at a few unranked schools all of which are giving me a significant scholarship. Is it inappropriate to ask the schools why they are unranked/what their opinion of the ranking system is? I also wanted to ask them how to compare to their competitor schools. For example asking New York Law how they compare to Pace or asking New England Law how they compare to Suffolk etc. These questions wouldn't be in anyway adversarial but I'd very much like to know how the schools answer these "harder" questions. What are your opinions?

I'm getting ready to purchase a full course after completing my free trial. I would like to be able to access the hard problem sets that appear to only be accessible through the Ultimate+ package, which is not yet available. Is there a timeline for when this package will be available for purchase? Also, if I purchase the Ultimate package, can I upgrade to Ultimate+ when it becomes available without having to pay for an entire new course?

I think it would be fun/funny to list the types of people you see/listen to when you're at your LSAT testing site on test day.

I'll list a couple of people to start it off.

Ditcher: This guy has no idea why he's there or if he's even ready. As soon as his name is called during attendance he gets up and says "I'm not ready for this, I shouldn't be here, good luck everyone." Making other students a bit more anxious than they were already.

That Guy: This is the guy (I say guy because I've never seen a girl do this, and I took the test twice) during break, who talks about the LSAT like it's no big deal. He barely studied for it because it's just so simple or he doesn't take it seriously. He says this while laughing and shrugs it off like it isn't a big deal. After the exam is finished he walks away with a look of defeat on his face.

Freaked Out: These are the people who are obsessing over the test during their break (they are usually a bit vocal). They feel defeated and want to cancel their score. Some do and some don't, but it doesn't make others any less anxious.

Pencil Person: This is the person who taps their pencil every so often and it's a bit distracting. They also tend to cross out answers like an angry 5 year old scribbling in a coloring book. Out of all the people, these may be the worst.

The Nail Biter (this is me): I bite my nails to keep the rest of my nerves under control. It may be distracting, but I'm not sure if it is because I never noticed anyone else doing it.

I'm sure there are plenty of others. Feel free to post some if you've experienced similar/other possibilities!

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What does this mean for us? Nothing. Just put your best self forward on the LSAT and applications. That's what you'd do if the numbers were down 6.6%. You got this.

Want to pre-empt any doomsdaying.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/07/10/jump-in-lsat-takers-gives-law-schools-finally-something-to-cheer/

I know LSAT is the most important part of the admissions decision, in most cases.

For pretty much all of the schools I want to apply to, I am in the 25th or just below the 50th percentile for the LSAT. My GPA is usually at the 75th or above though. I plan to apply ASAP, most of these schools are rolling admissions.

Basically, asking if a high GPA will level off an okay LSAT score.

Thanks!

Hi All,

While I'm trying to get pumped (in the mood?) for the October LSAT, I keep ruminating about part-time versus full-time enrollment. I'd love to hear your thoughts regarding the difference and any feedback regarding my thought process:

Full-time Pros

*Full immersion in the classroom & ancillary activities

*Perhaps better scholarships

*Perhaps better connections & experiences

*Perhaps better job prospects

*Perhaps a faster track to the JD (e.g. NU has an accelerated JD)

Full-time Cons

*Little-to-no income (therefore, much reliance on my partner, assuming that he still likes me by then)

*Less time for personal/work/study balance

*Sticker price (aka potential for massive student debt)

*Blow to confidence if I attempt admission with a lower LSAT score (think under 170), even with solid uGPA

Part-time Pros

*Balance life/work/study potentially better

*Continue to work on-call/contractor to help with tuition (to provide an idea, I make roughly $50/hr on-call and $85-100/home visit as a healthcare provider)

*Perhaps feel less rushed in school

*Perhaps easier chance of enrollment with lower LSAT score (think: under 170, including solid uGPA)

*Perhaps easier to make & feed/water a baby, if that's what we want to do (I'm 32 next year. Dude will be 35)

Part-time Cons

*Perhaps less/no scholarships

*Perhaps poor-to-no job prospects

*Perhaps poor connections & experiences

*Perhaps less recognition/respect

*4ish years to get to the JD

Side note on why I'm even considering part-time app/enrollment:

I spent nearly $100k (including scholarships/loans) on my master's from NU in allied health. My bachelor's cost me much less, as I earned an associate's first and then took advantage of transfer scholarships. Mommy & Daddy didn't pay for college, unless you count my birthday & Xmas cash as student loan payback.

Although I currently make six figs, one of the reasons why I'm pursuing law school is that I've concluded that I no longer find my career path fulfilling, for multiple reasons. I've attempted a few times making changes to my path, but I always come to the same conclusion...I'm bored, incredibly unhappy, and miss using my brain in ways that I feel that the legal field will fulfill.

If I can continue to work as a clinician while going to law school part-time, I feel that I may have more stability in reducing income stress & tuition payments, rather than going into more massive debt. However, my biggest fear is that enrolling part-time will absolutely crush career prospects.

These are just my initial thoughts that keep swimming around in my head (tormenting me as I twist my mind around LR). Thoughts, ruminations, and arguments welcome.

Thanks!

Hey everyone! My first LSAT score was a 160 (less than 2 months of part-time prep) and I had a 3.8 GPA from a very well-recognized university. I applied and got into quite a few good schools (UPenn, UVA and waitlisted at Columbia) but no scholarship money at any of the top schools. I'm considering retaking the LSAT because I know that the score was by far the weakest element in my application. I know UPenn is a great school but I'm not interested in BigLaw; I'm more interested in International Humanitarian Law. Therefore, I'm a little hesitant about UPenn.

If I retake the LSAT and can improve my score, I might have a shot at NYU or a top 3 school and/or perhaps at a scholarship. Keyword being "might." I was wondering if you guys might be able help me make a choice. Thanks everyone!