Hey guys, just need you to verify of this is correct from my understanding.....

You must buy milk or eggs or both

Diagram :

Not M ->E

Not E->M ? (So implies either M or E, you can get both)

You can't buy both milk and eggs

Diagram:

E-> not M

M-> not E ? (So implies either E or M , or NEITHER?...you do not even need to buy both?)

I've been through the 'Some and Most Relationships' module once....and twice...but am still unclear on the exact difference between a contrapositive (which auto-correct always tries to make 'Contraceptive'!) and a negation. Both in terms of definition and strategy.

Now, of course, I know they are radically different - but nailing the specifics throws me.

Does anyone have any wisdom? I'll give you one gold bean for your time :)

Hello, everyone!

So I've posted here before about my situation, but I'm going to summarize it a bit before asking for your opinions. So I was consistently scoring 156/157 before my Dec. LSAT (it was scary consistent), but it was good enough to get into the school I wanted with some scholarship (the school is right down the street from where I live). However, on test day I did not perform as well as I know I should have. I scored a 147. I was sad, depressed, and upset with myself. Anyway, I applied to the 2 schools in my area, my plan A school and my plan B school. I got into my plan B school, BUT got denied by my plan A school.

There's a light at the end of the tunnel, however. The recruiting manager of the school A said I can take the June exam, and if I do better I can be reconsidered for the Fall 2015 admission cycle. This brings me a lot of joy and a lot of stress.

My plan B school is not very ideal for me. It is about an hour away and is about 35k a year. While plan A school is 5 minutes from my house and about 21k a year. I can't imagine the amount of study time I'd be killing driving an hour to plan B school and back, and how much more money I'll owe in the long run.

Anyway, I've started up the 7Sage curriculum again. Everything just seems to click, even more than before. My LR seems to have gotten better, my RC has gotten better, my LG seem to be in tact. It's as if not studying since Dec. gave me a huge mental rest. Unfortunately/fortunately for me the pressure is back on. I'm on week 3 of the curriculum and have completed almost all of it in one day. I only feel better when I study. Studying for midterms, going to work, and etc. all feel like a waste of my time. I'm pretty much becoming an insomniac. I can't sleep, all I can do is think about LSAT and getting better. I sleep maybe 4-6 hours, wake up in the middle of the night and just start studying for LSAT because it's the only thing that eases my mind. Well, that and working out.

My friends say I'll burn out, and while I'm afraid of that as well, I just can't agree with them. This doesn't feel forced, it's almost like it's my therapy. I enjoy learning it. I genuinely enjoy learning this information, like it's all a fun game. Maybe I'm just becoming delusional.

So, here's the end. What if I do score really well. What if I break the 165 by June (which at the moment is about 8-9 points of improvement). If I get in, should I take it? Or, should I wait a year in order to get a scholarship (if I'm reconsidered in the summer there won't be any money left). I know the answer seems obvious, but like I said I feel a bit delusional. Woke up at 3am est, and it's now 8pm est (me typing this is my break).

I already tried sleeping a couple of times today but could only sleep for 10 minutes max before waking up and only thinking about LSAT.

I know this is a long post. This probably just seems more like venting than anything else, and if I wasted your time I'm sorry. Any input is appreciated. I'm off to go study some more and will be watching for any responses.

I'd like to thank J.Y. and the 7Sage team for creating this awesome site, and I'd like to thank the interactive and awesome community here on the discussion board. Congrats to all those who reached their LSAT/Law School goals, and good luck to everyone who is studying for the LSAT!

Can someone tell me how to access the additional games that are provided. I finished the lesson, but want to practice the additional in/out games. At the end of the lesson, we are offered more games for additional practice. I click on a game and only get the explanation. I can only see the Youtube explanation. I need to see the game so I can work it out. How can I see the game?

So I took PT38 and 39 a week apart from each other to give me time to blind review. I ended up scoring 154/171BR on 38 and 150/167BR on 39? I feel like I have a timing problem, but I have no idea where to begin climbing this steep hill. Anyone with a similar experience? I'm not sure what else to try. This is however, my second time doing BR so I'm not sure that has anything to do with it.

Thanks.

Hello Everyone

I am looking to take the June LSAT, and I think it would be great to find a fellow study buddy here in Atlanta, GA. I work fulltime in Atlanta, but I am willing to work around my schedule to devise a feasible study schedule. I started the 7 stage curriculum at the beginning of this month, and I also took an in class LSAT course back in October. Hope someone is interested!

Thanks,

Kristen

PS: Skype is another option.

http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/the-embezzler-weaken-question/?ss_completed_lesson=991

Help!

I thought the assumption in this argument was

"It is more likely that actuaries are the embezzlers because accountants would never make the lender mistake"

So I thought to weaken the argument you would have to look for why accountants could be the embezzlers and could make the mistake?

But I noticed rather to weaken the argument you have to show how it "could not be actuaries " .Instead of how it could be the accountant.

So weaken questions are we attacking just the conclusion? Or do we assume an assumption and see what attacks that? Because I feel like mine was way off HAHA

(P.S Sorry for bombarding you guys with questions. I am doing my best to learn as much as I can :) , Bare with my silly questions..)

Hi All, if I were to purchase drilling packets from Cambridge on the Logic Games. Which should I go for?

LSAT Logic Games by Type, Volume 3 (pdf download)

All 80 Analytical Reasoning Problem Sets from PrepTests 41–60, Grouped by Type (This one?)

or

LSAT Logic Games by Type (PrepTests 1–38)

thank you!!!

http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/off-shore-oil-drilling-weaken-question/?ss_completed_lesson=992

Thought this one is interesting. So the assumption is that one thinks they are analogous when they are not.

Will all arguments of analogy weaken correct answer basically be one that tells you how they are not the same? I thought the weakening would be in the argument itself? Or I am just extremely confused.

reposting this I found from old thread, though you guys would find it helpful as well

FAMILY # 1 is the PROVE family where the stimulus is taken to be true but the answer choices are under suspect and you must prove one of them to be correct. So family #1 contains: (6 question types)

1. Must be true questions

• require you to select an answer choice that is proven by the info presented in the stimulus.

Note: The right answer will be a paraphrase of the stimulus and no new extra info in the right answer.

2. Main point questions

•These questions just ask you to identify the main conclusion of the stimulus.

3. Point at Issue

•These questions are the ones where two people are speaking and the question will ask you on either a point that they both disagree on or a point that they both agree on.

4. Method of Reasoning

•The correct answer in this question type is the one that best describes

What method author used to make the argument.

•NO NEW INFO in the correct answer choice in these questions either.

•We focus on form instead of facts in these question types.

5. Flaw in Reasoning

•These questions are also like method of reasoning since they focus on form rather than facts/substance of the stimulus.

•So the correct answer in this question type will point out WHY the argument is flawed.

•Don't get this confused with weakening questions, because weakening questions just attack the support between the premise and conclusion.

•So instead of just making the argument weak, you tell why it is actually weak.

6. and Parallel Reasoning

•The correct answer choice of this question type will parallel the stimulus's

A. Method of Reasoning

B. Validity (either a valid or invalid argument)

C. Conclusion

D. and Premises

The parallel reasoning question types are time consuming b/c you have to sort thru five more stimulus's in the answer choice to pick out the right one.

FAMILY #2 is the HELP family and in this family the stimulus is under suspect while the answer choices are taken to be true. So this family contains: (4 question types)

1. Strengthen questions

•These questions ask you to strengthen the support between the premise and conclusion. So basically if there are any gaps in the argument, just fill those in.

2. Assumption questions

•These question types ask you to identify an assumption that is used to make the conclusion of the argument.

3. Justify the conclusion

•The right answer to these question types will add info to the premise to make the conclusion follow.

•The Justify Formula is this:

premise + correct answer = conclusion

4. Resolve the paradox

•These questions look like they have a contradiction but they actually don't. So with the correct answer you make that appearance of a contradiction go away.

•So the correct answer will allow both sides of the paradox to be factually correct and it will either explain how the situation came into being or add a piece of info that shows how the 2 ideas/occurrences can coexist.

FAMILY #3 is the HURT family and its the same as the 2nd family because the stimulus is under suspect and the answer choices are taken as given. This family contains: (1 question type)

1. Weaken questions

•In this question type you are supposed to weaken the support between the premise and conclusion

FAMILY #4 is the DISPROVE family and its the same as the 1st family where the stimulus is taken as it is but the answer choice is under suspect. This family contains: (1 question type)

1. Cannot be True

•In this question type you are to choose the answer that is most weakened by the info in the argument.

Anyone else having a difficult time figuring out the subtle assumption in weakening questions? Usually I can sort of figure out how to weaken the arguments. But have difficult time figuring out what this subtle assumption is.

Exactly how are we suppose to find out what it is?

http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/animal-navigation-weaken-question/

(above example)

Hey guys!

I'm aiming for the June 2015 LSAT. I've gone through pretty much the entire curriculum (a few unfinished practice sets floating out there). My PT scores have increased significantly since December '14. 7sage has been a phenomenal teaching tool.

Right now, I'm sort of hitting a mental wall. My blind review for the past month has been pretty consistent, and I can't seem to score higher during blind review. My problem areas are the more difficult LR and RC questions. Does anyone have tips on how to get past that wall? Review specific lessons? Or is it just continuing taking prep tests? I still have 3 months, so a fairly good chunk of time. But I really want to master the material.

Thank you!

Julia

Hi I took the December LSAT after studying using the beginner course (and disappointed), now I plan on taking the June LSAT. I purchased the upgraded course with everything. Looking for advice for hitting these bonus problem sets. Should I do all the weakening in a row for example? Or should I throw some parallel problem sets in between to make it more like the test. Is it best just to focus everything on one set at a time? If you are reading this and have been in a similar spot please let me know what felt right for you. Thanks

Hey guys, I’m in the middle of the Weakening section of the curriculum and its kicking my ass. I’s getting all the questions wrong. Can someone please offer and explanation on attacking them? I really don’t understand what JY means by not attacking the premise or conclusion.

Any explanations would be greatly appreciated.

Hi everyone!

I started 7Sage's Ultimate Course January 1st (I really took my New Year's resolution of actually studying to heart lol) and have worked my way through almost all of it. I skipped the logic game sections as I went through the course because I didn't have time to foolproof since I work full time. Now I'm going back and working through the games.

My problem is this: I began the course with the aim of taking the June 2015 test. However, I am now a few weeks behind in the curriculum and have yet to take a practice test (it's almost March--yikes!). I'm not willing to take this test until I am scoring where I want to be scoring on the PTs (mid-high 160s would be ideal) since I've already taken the test once. Would it make sense to just hold off until October? I work full-time but I'm almost at the point where I'm willing to take time off to study (ie find a new job/opportunity after finishing apps). At the same time, it'd be nice to get the June test done so that I can take all summer to work on rounding up letters of rec and working on essays.

What do you guys think? What has been your experience in finishing up the course and then taking practice tests-is there enough time to improve by the June test?

Thanks so much for your help! I really enjoy this community-oriented discussion page. It really makes you feel like we're all on the same boat, albeit going at different rates haha :)

Hi,

I've just started using the program and I'm liking it a lot so far, but I'm already anticipating a bit of difficulty keeping all of the materials organized. Does anyone have a system that's working especially well for them?

Hi there,

I was wondering if anyone knew of any simulated test centres in Toronto that I could register to take the LSAT at before the actual test?

Thanks so much!

Currently working through the core curriculum and starting the pain of Lawgic. Today's session was learning the nine argument types and "some", "must" theory.

I pretty much get it all but struggle as I am not yet far enough along to see this theory in practice with actual questions.

Do you find that the theory, if you don't fully get it during the videos, falls into place somewhat when put in context with actual questions?

Confidence is a bIt low!

Does LSAC ever post your LSDAS GPA?

I have the "Ultimate" package and am currently about 20% through the core syllabus. No prep tests yet aside from the diagnostic.

Just realized I have been forgetting to blind review the problem sets at the end of each module. I have been making sure I don't proceed until I know where I went wrong with each question - but I forgot to do the actual blind review method.

Will this put me at a huge setback? Obviously I will be doing it from this point forward. Hopefully, being only 1/5 of the way through the core syllabus, it won't have set me back too much.

Thanks,

J.

The videos are loading however there is no sound. I have restarted and logged in again, neither has helped.

This doesn't have specifically to do with the LSAT, but I am sure that somebody on here knows the answers. I plan on beginning law school next fall (2016), which means that my early decision application (for SMU) is due this November 1, however they only have their Fall 2015 application open - even though the deadlines to turn it in has passed. I was just wondering if anybody knew generally when applications are posted? Thank!

Looking for LSAT study buddy in Mississauga area

That is the question. I have found that JY will sometimes ignore logical indicator language in a stimulus (always, the only, unless, etc...) for no reason whatsoever and not really explain why he chose to ignore those indicators. Instead, he'll use simple argument analysis. Did I miss a lesson? I'd love to know what criteria people have come up with to know when it's more effective to avoid using Lawgic. JY, you're more than welcome to answer this too, of course.Thanks.

Hello folks,

I am trying to get some thoughts on the whole Lsac Account issue. My acct expires in May '15. Last time I took the Lsat was in 2010 while in grad school and I've been working full time ever since then. I understand once you register for the Lsat it extends for another couple of years. I was planning for June '15 but after recently joining the 7sage nation, I realized I will definitely need more time. Is it wise to allow my account to expire since I don't know when I will be well prepared to take the Lsat this year? Any feedback will be helpful. Thanks.